Help protect children from gaming harms.

Take our survey

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To still be hurt and angry that I was ‘Wendied’ 15 years ago

320 replies

pricecap · 01/09/2026 18:33

DH and I were very friendly with a group of people, 3 couples. They came to our wedding, one of the men was my husbands best man etc. We all had children around the same time. Kids all got on in school and were invited to each others parties etc.

Then, two other couples joined the group, one woman was always a ‘Queen Bee’ type but nice enough, the other got a job as teacher in our small local primary school.

The teacher taught my daughter but unfortunately I had some issues with the school and had to raise a complaint eventually. Suddenly I was the complete outcast, the group closed up and ostracised myself and DH, despite the complaint not being directed at this teacher.

We lost our friendship group and even wider friends in one fell swoop which hurt so much. I suspect that the teacher (who is so far up her own backside she can kiss her teeth) did her level best to drag our names through the mud even though we had a legitimate complaint to make about the school and how they were treating a number of children who were set to go to a secondary school that wasn’t the choice of the school. Not one of them have actually ever had the guts to speak to me or tell me what I was meant to have done and even 15 years later it hurts when I see them and they blank me.

I’d love to ask them what their problem is after all this time, it was a hurtful, childish and ‘mean girl’ thing to do. I’d have preferred it if one of them had the guts to actually tell me at the time that I’d done something to upset someone. All I can think of is the school complaint. I can absolutely guarantee that if there was an issue with the schooling of one of their children they would have done exactly the same thing.

OP posts:
moderate · 02/09/2026 10:25

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 02/09/2026 10:21

It’s no one wants a computer generated response on a chat forum, we can do it better ourselves, if we wished an ai reponse we could do it ourselves, everyone has access.

I must have missed the memo where everyone signed up to have you speak on their behalf. Could you please forward it?

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 02/09/2026 10:21

moderate · 02/09/2026 09:24

You do know that there are two sides to every story?

Here in real life, online American males have also experienced ostracisation, so I’m not quite sure what your point is.

It’s no one wants a computer generated response on a chat forum, we can do it better ourselves, if we wished an ai reponse we could do it ourselves, everyone has access.

moderate · 02/09/2026 10:21

Poppingby · 02/09/2026 10:03

My point is that AI is not better at interpreting what has happened here than we humans are. It has exactly the same information about the situations as we do but by posting this here you are a) treating it like a scrying glass that speaks the Truth and b) doing something the OP could have done herself but she wanted the opinion of other humans.

It is very irritating when people post AI responses for that reason.

AI is better at some things than humans but in this case it presents a generic story based on its input of mostly American male language and is not accounting for the fact that people can and do behave horribly, nor for the fact that interpretation is completely individual and context/ culture-bound. Obviously American men experience ostracisation. That isn't the point.

HTH.

Edited

Feel free to quote me "treating it like a scrying glass that speaks the Truth".

It is very irritating when people post their weird projections and straw men.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 02/09/2026 10:20

ISpeakJive · 02/09/2026 10:11

Oh gosh! You are so much better out of that Den of Divas! I guarantee one of them will be next 😉

Well considering it’s been 15 years and that’s not happened, I’d be surprised..

ISpeakJive · 02/09/2026 10:13

Sorry I didn’t read the whole thread but did you give a heads up to the teacher friend you were going to complain?

ISpeakJive · 02/09/2026 10:11

Oh gosh! You are so much better out of that Den of Divas! I guarantee one of them will be next 😉

KarminaBurana · 02/09/2026 10:04

Spot on, @Poppingby

Poppingby · 02/09/2026 10:03

moderate · 02/09/2026 09:24

You do know that there are two sides to every story?

Here in real life, online American males have also experienced ostracisation, so I’m not quite sure what your point is.

My point is that AI is not better at interpreting what has happened here than we humans are. It has exactly the same information about the situations as we do but by posting this here you are a) treating it like a scrying glass that speaks the Truth and b) doing something the OP could have done herself but she wanted the opinion of other humans.

It is very irritating when people post AI responses for that reason.

AI is better at some things than humans but in this case it presents a generic story based on its input of mostly American male language and is not accounting for the fact that people can and do behave horribly, nor for the fact that interpretation is completely individual and context/ culture-bound. Obviously American men experience ostracisation. That isn't the point.

HTH.

GarlicSomething · 02/09/2026 09:41

moderate · 02/09/2026 09:24

You do know that there are two sides to every story?

Here in real life, online American males have also experienced ostracisation, so I’m not quite sure what your point is.

Indeed. (Thanks, Google)

Vishal Garg, the founder of Better.com, brought Daniel Lewis onto the company board. Within just one week, Lewis convinced the rest of the board directors to turn on Garg and terminate him as CEO.

OpenAI’s board of directors abruptly fired its founder, Sam Altman. The coup was quietly orchestrated by fellow co-founder and chief scientist Ilya Sutskever, along with independent board members like Helen Toner and Tasha McCauley—people Altman had worked with closely to build the company’s massive public profile.

I remembered that one, Altman was publicly devastated. Happy ending:
The coup backfired. Key ally Greg Brockman resigned in protest, Microsoft intervened, and over 700 employees threatened to quit unless Altman was reinstated. Altman returned as CEO just five days later, and the mutinous board members were replaced.

William Nieporte co-founded the multi-billion-dollar asset management firm Bramshill Investments and ran it for a decade alongside two of his high school classmates. In 2022, his lifelong friends turned on him, using a newly signed company "return-to-office" mandate to fire him for cause because he didn't report to a physical office five days a week.

Nieporte filed a federal lawsuit against his former friends, alleging that his childhood allies weaponized the policy as a bad-faith excuse to push him out and "usurp" his lucrative 12% equity stake in the firm.

Travis Kalanick built Uber into a global powerhouse and heavily relied on his close relationship with Benchmark Capital. Following bad PR regarding corporate culture in 2017, Benchmark executives secretly aligned with other shareholders behind Kalanick's back. While Kalanick was away grieving the sudden death of his mother, Benchmark hand-delivered a letter demanding his immediate resignation.

Kalanick was forced out of his own company and later sued Benchmark for fraud and breach of fiduciary duty.

I'm sure ChatGPT could write little 'the other point of view' stories for them all, but the fact is these poor fuckers were Wendied big time.

Frillysweetpea · 02/09/2026 09:40

pricecap · 01/09/2026 18:33

DH and I were very friendly with a group of people, 3 couples. They came to our wedding, one of the men was my husbands best man etc. We all had children around the same time. Kids all got on in school and were invited to each others parties etc.

Then, two other couples joined the group, one woman was always a ‘Queen Bee’ type but nice enough, the other got a job as teacher in our small local primary school.

The teacher taught my daughter but unfortunately I had some issues with the school and had to raise a complaint eventually. Suddenly I was the complete outcast, the group closed up and ostracised myself and DH, despite the complaint not being directed at this teacher.

We lost our friendship group and even wider friends in one fell swoop which hurt so much. I suspect that the teacher (who is so far up her own backside she can kiss her teeth) did her level best to drag our names through the mud even though we had a legitimate complaint to make about the school and how they were treating a number of children who were set to go to a secondary school that wasn’t the choice of the school. Not one of them have actually ever had the guts to speak to me or tell me what I was meant to have done and even 15 years later it hurts when I see them and they blank me.

I’d love to ask them what their problem is after all this time, it was a hurtful, childish and ‘mean girl’ thing to do. I’d have preferred it if one of them had the guts to actually tell me at the time that I’d done something to upset someone. All I can think of is the school complaint. I can absolutely guarantee that if there was an issue with the schooling of one of their children they would have done exactly the same thing.

I'm not sure you're missing out. If 'friends' are immature enough to drop you without making an effort to hear your version of events I don't think they are worth having. Tbh, I'm struggling to understand why you didn't make the effort and approach them at the time to thrash it out. I find the whole idea of multiple adults in a small town/village blanking one another quite bizarre.

OnlyUsername · 02/09/2026 09:37

Notbuiltforheat · 02/09/2026 00:30

No. A lot of people take the path of least resistance. It’s shitty when you’re on the other end, but it’s true.

Yes. OP has gone on to say that she joined the community when she met her husband and then they used the first excuse to blank her so I was actually right.

WildFatball · 02/09/2026 09:31

I'm not sure why you expect to remain part of a community that you complained about. You were already an outsider and keeping your distance and then made a complaint involving lots of the kids and staff. There's nothing wrong with making a complaint or ploughing your own furrow (sending your kid to a different secondary school from everyone else) but you have to accept what may go along with it - unpopularity.

Marksthengym · 02/09/2026 09:29

moderate · 02/09/2026 09:24

You do know that there are two sides to every story?

Here in real life, online American males have also experienced ostracisation, so I’m not quite sure what your point is.

The sad thing is… @pricecap 15 years later still doesn’t seem to think that there’s two sides of the story.

I imagine she’s had a lonely 15 years. Entirely of her own self making

moderate · 02/09/2026 09:24

Poppingby · 02/09/2026 09:02

You do know chat gpt isn't the oracle?

Here in real life, plenty of people are horrible, ostracise those who don't fit in or don't maintain their own idea of how perfect things are, and enjoy being the top dog. The fact that human beings are so different individually is what makes us so adaptable as a species. And it's also why this generic answer about A Person's perspective is useless because AI doesn't have any more information than we do, but we have a lot more experience of non-online, non-American, non-male interactions between humans than it does.

You do know that there are two sides to every story?

Here in real life, online American males have also experienced ostracisation, so I’m not quite sure what your point is.

Marksthengym · 02/09/2026 09:24

15 years later and you appear to have done zero introspection and still have zero insight.

This entire group of friends, all grown assed adults, all with full capacity, took the decision to not be friends with you for their own reasons. Not because they all weirdly and blindly took insane offence at a school complaint you made.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 02/09/2026 09:12

Gosh it’s gone a bit weird now, someone posting an odd chat gpt response, and another poster accusing people of being unkind etc, to very valid responses.

Poppingby · 02/09/2026 09:02

moderate · 02/09/2026 08:49

Here is Queen Bee’s side of the story, as written by ChatGPT:

To be accused of “Wendying” someone 15 years ago when actually the friendship had run its course

I’m wondering how people would feel if they discovered that someone they used to be friends with 15 years ago still believed they had deliberately orchestrated an entire friendship group to ostracise them.

Years ago DH and I became friendly with a group of couples in our village. Some of them had known each other for years before I came along. Our children were all roughly the same age and naturally there were parties, school things, barbecues etc.

One woman in the group — I’ll call her A — was married to one of the men who’d been part of the friendship group for years.

A always seemed slightly uncomfortable with the group dynamic. She regularly made it clear that she and her husband “preferred doing their own thing” and weren’t interested in the sort of holidays, weekends away and activities some of us enjoyed together. Which was absolutely fine, but over time it inevitably meant the rest of us became closer because we were actually spending more time together.

Around the same period, another friend started working at the local primary school.

A then became extremely unhappy with something happening at the school involving her child and several other children. I’m deliberately being vague because it involved children.

She was perfectly entitled to complain.
The problem, from our point of view, wasn’t that she complained.

It was that she became absolutely consumed by it.

Every conversation seemed to come back to how badly the school was behaving, how unfair the head was, how certain children were being discriminated against and how other parents apparently didn’t understand what was going on.

She describes herself now as having been “principled and outspoken”. I suspect other people might remember it as angry, relentless and increasingly difficult to be around.

It also became incredibly awkward because one of our friends actually worked at the school.

A seemed convinced that this friend was somehow part of the establishment she was fighting against, despite the complaint not actually being about her. There was a strange undertone whenever they were together. A has subsequently said she deliberately refused to “fawn” over the teacher like everyone else supposedly did.

That comment probably illustrates the problem better than anything.

Nobody was fawning over anybody.

We were friends.

Eventually people simply stopped inviting A to things.

There wasn’t a meeting.

There wasn’t some dramatic conversation where I announced that A was to be expelled from the village.

Nobody was instructed to delete her from Facebook.

Different people reached the same conclusion independently: spending time with her had become uncomfortable.

I suspect from her perspective it happened suddenly because she didn’t realise how strained things had become.

From ours it had been building for months.

The other slightly awkward part is that A has always assumed I was the “Queen Bee” because DH and I had more money than some of the others and because people sometimes did similar things to us.

Apparently we bought a caravan and then several friends bought caravans.

Yes.

Because we all had young children, somebody suggested caravanning, we enjoyed going away together and some of the others decided it looked fun.

It wasn’t a cult.

Nobody was required to purchase a Bailey Unicorn to retain membership.

Over the years the friendships naturally became very close. We holidayed together, our children grew up together and we supported each other through various things.

A apparently regards that as “enmeshed”.

We regarded it as friendship.

Her husband still chats perfectly happily to the men when he sees them, which perhaps ought to suggest that this wasn’t some coordinated vendetta against their entire family.

I also gather she believes the teacher “dragged her name through the mud”.
I genuinely don’t remember her doing that.

What I do remember is A repeatedly telling people that the teacher was up herself, that other parents fawned over her and that she herself was too principled to behave like that.

She may not realise how contemptuous she sometimes sounded.

Fifteen years later, if I passed A in the village I probably wouldn’t stop for a conversation.

Not because I’m still furious about a school complaint from 2011.

Because we haven’t been friends for fifteen years.

If she suddenly confronted me in the street demanding to know “what my problem is after all these years”, I’d probably be completely taken aback.

There isn’t a problem.

There’s just a friendship that ended a very long time ago.

And if I’m completely truthful, the idea that I’ve spent fifteen years controlling several grown women, arranging their holidays, influencing their purchases and instructing them whom they’re allowed to speak to is rather more flattering to my organisational abilities than reality deserves.

You do know chat gpt isn't the oracle?

Here in real life, plenty of people are horrible, ostracise those who don't fit in or don't maintain their own idea of how perfect things are, and enjoy being the top dog. The fact that human beings are so different individually is what makes us so adaptable as a species. And it's also why this generic answer about A Person's perspective is useless because AI doesn't have any more information than we do, but we have a lot more experience of non-online, non-American, non-male interactions between humans than it does.

moderate · 02/09/2026 08:49

Here is Queen Bee’s side of the story, as written by ChatGPT:

To be accused of “Wendying” someone 15 years ago when actually the friendship had run its course

I’m wondering how people would feel if they discovered that someone they used to be friends with 15 years ago still believed they had deliberately orchestrated an entire friendship group to ostracise them.

Years ago DH and I became friendly with a group of couples in our village. Some of them had known each other for years before I came along. Our children were all roughly the same age and naturally there were parties, school things, barbecues etc.

One woman in the group — I’ll call her A — was married to one of the men who’d been part of the friendship group for years.

A always seemed slightly uncomfortable with the group dynamic. She regularly made it clear that she and her husband “preferred doing their own thing” and weren’t interested in the sort of holidays, weekends away and activities some of us enjoyed together. Which was absolutely fine, but over time it inevitably meant the rest of us became closer because we were actually spending more time together.

Around the same period, another friend started working at the local primary school.

A then became extremely unhappy with something happening at the school involving her child and several other children. I’m deliberately being vague because it involved children.

She was perfectly entitled to complain.
The problem, from our point of view, wasn’t that she complained.

It was that she became absolutely consumed by it.

Every conversation seemed to come back to how badly the school was behaving, how unfair the head was, how certain children were being discriminated against and how other parents apparently didn’t understand what was going on.

She describes herself now as having been “principled and outspoken”. I suspect other people might remember it as angry, relentless and increasingly difficult to be around.

It also became incredibly awkward because one of our friends actually worked at the school.

A seemed convinced that this friend was somehow part of the establishment she was fighting against, despite the complaint not actually being about her. There was a strange undertone whenever they were together. A has subsequently said she deliberately refused to “fawn” over the teacher like everyone else supposedly did.

That comment probably illustrates the problem better than anything.

Nobody was fawning over anybody.

We were friends.

Eventually people simply stopped inviting A to things.

There wasn’t a meeting.

There wasn’t some dramatic conversation where I announced that A was to be expelled from the village.

Nobody was instructed to delete her from Facebook.

Different people reached the same conclusion independently: spending time with her had become uncomfortable.

I suspect from her perspective it happened suddenly because she didn’t realise how strained things had become.

From ours it had been building for months.

The other slightly awkward part is that A has always assumed I was the “Queen Bee” because DH and I had more money than some of the others and because people sometimes did similar things to us.

Apparently we bought a caravan and then several friends bought caravans.

Yes.

Because we all had young children, somebody suggested caravanning, we enjoyed going away together and some of the others decided it looked fun.

It wasn’t a cult.

Nobody was required to purchase a Bailey Unicorn to retain membership.

Over the years the friendships naturally became very close. We holidayed together, our children grew up together and we supported each other through various things.

A apparently regards that as “enmeshed”.

We regarded it as friendship.

Her husband still chats perfectly happily to the men when he sees them, which perhaps ought to suggest that this wasn’t some coordinated vendetta against their entire family.

I also gather she believes the teacher “dragged her name through the mud”.
I genuinely don’t remember her doing that.

What I do remember is A repeatedly telling people that the teacher was up herself, that other parents fawned over her and that she herself was too principled to behave like that.

She may not realise how contemptuous she sometimes sounded.

Fifteen years later, if I passed A in the village I probably wouldn’t stop for a conversation.

Not because I’m still furious about a school complaint from 2011.

Because we haven’t been friends for fifteen years.

If she suddenly confronted me in the street demanding to know “what my problem is after all these years”, I’d probably be completely taken aback.

There isn’t a problem.

There’s just a friendship that ended a very long time ago.

And if I’m completely truthful, the idea that I’ve spent fifteen years controlling several grown women, arranging their holidays, influencing their purchases and instructing them whom they’re allowed to speak to is rather more flattering to my organisational abilities than reality deserves.

Ethelspagetti · 02/09/2026 08:48

To be honest with you, they all don’t sound very nice. I’d bet they fall out with another couple soon then another. Give it time and it will all fall apart. Focus on making new friends and don’t waste your time thinking about your old friends.

Ethelspagetti · 02/09/2026 08:45

midlifeattheoasis · 02/09/2026 07:17

What does “Wendied” mean please?

It means a new friend takes over your friendship group.

Mum2Fergus · 02/09/2026 08:44

After 15 years the others in the group likely don’t even remember you, what happened or why. You need to let it drop.

Justbrieme · 02/09/2026 08:41

OnlyUsername · 01/09/2026 18:50

Well... People only do this so easily if they're already looking for an excuse. You may well have blotted your copybook unknowingly well before the complaint.

That is my experience too sorry @pricecap

The only people I ever see adults stepping back from is because individuals or a group find them too much hard work as a person.

I have literally never seen or heard anything else.

HorseandHeron · 02/09/2026 08:36

pricecap · 01/09/2026 18:52

The dynamics in the group meant that as soon as the queen bee joined, around the same time as the teacher they all kow towed to her too. They are the wealthiest in the group. They bought a caravan, next thing they all bought caravans. If one bought something or went somewhere then they all followed suit.

But wouldn't you hate still to be in a group where there was pressure to baa like a sheep and spend money on things you didn't want, just to keep up with the Joneses? You need to own tha fact that you chose not to be compliant, chose to stand up for something you thought was important. This ousted you from people who think it's important to do what they are told by their bossiest/wealthiest friends. Just be proud and thankful you are not like this, and find some friends - locally or not - who are likeminded with you.

KarminaBurana · 02/09/2026 08:34

LimpRat · 02/09/2026 08:31

Ugh, the cloying claustrophobia I feel when I hear about these petty type of little village people.

Don't allow them to.bother you further. Don't give them the power. They are nothing! Vent, and then move on as if they don't exist.

It's possible to stay lovely and warm using the flames of burnt bridges, fuck 'em 😁

I agree. I'm also very glad I don't live in a village, but a big city!

LimpRat · 02/09/2026 08:31

Ugh, the cloying claustrophobia I feel when I hear about these petty type of little village people.

Don't allow them to.bother you further. Don't give them the power. They are nothing! Vent, and then move on as if they don't exist.

It's possible to stay lovely and warm using the flames of burnt bridges, fuck 'em 😁