Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To increase this clients charge ?

281 replies

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 09:41

I have a very awkward situation . I am a cleaner and I took on a lady a year ago who had a difficult situation.
I also look after her cat when I am when she is away and there is an agreement that I care for the cat as she knows me

At the time for my own reasons and her then limited financial situation - single parent , I agreed to work for her add hoc for way below my charge.

We have become friendly.

With the cost of living and I said that I would need to nominally put my price sessions up , but that they would still remain below the going rate , v significantly

This appeared to have caused upset on a personal level for which I am sorry
She has said things like ‘ I thought we were friends, and that she struggles with money Although I know that she works hard she does not have what I would see as a frugal lifestyle as she does go out for meals , has nails done regularly, etc.

I think that I have ‘ offended’ her and she has indicated that I am less of a friend but being transactional.

I absolutely see that lines between business and friendship have been blurred .I have tried to say that my need to increase the charge slightly in no way means that I care less for her or her pet - the latter being the crux of the matter as I have agreed to care for him in her will .

was i bu? And any advice?
My plan is to keep repeating that I genuinely care for her pet but also need to earn .
( Every session I do means that i get paid less than my normal wage - this will continue with the increase- but I would just earn a little more to make it more manageable).

OP posts:
Agapornis · 01/09/2026 13:08

I'd remove 'you're lucky to have me' - she'll definitely blow even even more over that.

FinallyHere · 01/09/2026 13:07

Ah cross posted. Good luck.

FinallyHere · 01/09/2026 13:06

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 12:29

I see what you all saying - that i am gifting free labour .. one point she made was ‘ I thought we were family’

  • i do not know how to respond to that .Would appreciate view of that?
  • she seems genuinely hurt / angry - maybe am wrong .

And this is why it would make sense for you to let her go as a client. She has manipulated you so much that you continue to second guess yourself. It’s very hard I know but consider an alternative explanation for what she is doing.

She thinks she can continue to manipulate you and from what your reactions it looks as if she is indeed able to manipulate you.

if you chose to reply that you, too, value your friendship and do not want to put that at risk so will no longer have her as your client, you will get a chance to see just how much of a friend or family you are to her, when you are not providing cheap labour.

You might wait a long time for her to do something positive for you. Not manipulate you. Not take advantage of your good nature. Something concrete for you.

As for her bad mouthing you to other clients. They will weigh the great service they get from you against her poor me tale. They might not say do to her face but they are unlikely to give you up in solidarity.

Good cleaners are in very short supply. Your other clients know they are onto a good thing. Please stop wasting your time on someone who does not value you, does not treat you well. Concentrate your time and energy for people who treat you well. Not make empty protestations about friendship and family while doing nothing but manipulate you.

it’s a hard lesson to learn but absolutely essential to run a successful business and live a good life.

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 13:05

Assertive response to this:
I do an excellent job for you, I am very reliable and for that I deserve a living wage. To be honest, there are so many chancers out there, I think you're lucky to have me

I can say this - x ! Short n sweet . And its only £5 extra anyway !

OP posts:
YesIReallyDidOK · 01/09/2026 13:03

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 12:45

Isittimeformynapyet
My friends agree with much of this thread.
Have said things like
” dump her “
and just because she is emotional - does not mean I have to be responsible for it
manipulation also mentioned as well as the fact we can all have our weak spots
I guess I am struggling not to be compassionate of the emotional reaction she had - she is indicating she feels let down etc whcich is not a nice feeling .. and my own anxiety - my dh says am now scared of her .
Maybe compasion needs to be dealt with an i need to look at the potential manipulation- its just feels horrid that ot could be that
. i was thinking the lash out could be fear ( of loosing a good deal ?)
She was my first client amd said she had been my ‘ bread and butter’ and I think she sounds offended that I am now more busy with full oayimg clients and possibly angey as that to her means I am putting money
I
can
earn before friendship
.

I am going to be very forthright and repeat my stance -that she is still getting mates rates and the need to earn does not mean lackmof care.
I will stick to that .

Honestly, I think you need to get rid of her for your own peace of mind. If not, this will keep happening and you will continue to suffer.

If you keep her on at a discounted rate (even a higher discounted rate than before) then her manipulation of you is still working.

She's not showing you any compassion or consideration at all. You shouldn't have to walk on eggshells to do your job.

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 13:02

My initial reaction was to understand her hurt or initial panic at the agreement she relies on changing .
And that she buys me little gifts to show appreciation .

I will stand firm at new ( still reduced rate)
when she said ‘ I was your bread and butter before you were busy’ and ‘ you know I have no option but to keep the arrangement and pay more for the privilege ‘ - it was a shock .Also to
be told that maybe I am not who she thought I was and that I am transactional .. have good friends - never been spoken to this way - It shook me .

OP posts:
Agapornis · 01/09/2026 13:01

Bread and butter my arse. Cheap toast bread and margarine at best!

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 01/09/2026 13:00

Expecting mates rates from someone who is doing a low-paying job is a massive pisstake. It's not like, say, being a shit-hot lawyer getting hundreds of pounds per hour and dispensing a bit of legal advice to you friends for free, or popping round to your nan's to have a look at the boiler on a sunday.

She 's a user. She could just as easily turn it round and say "I would have to pay a stranger x amount to clean my house, I would much rather give that money to a friend"

gmgnts · 01/09/2026 12:59

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 12:29

I see what you all saying - that i am gifting free labour .. one point she made was ‘ I thought we were family’

  • i do not know how to respond to that .Would appreciate view of that?
  • she seems genuinely hurt / angry - maybe am wrong .

At one point, I think you said that she has an adult daughter, but you don't know anything about their relationship? I think if you were 'family' you would know more about her. Have you ever in your friendship felt like you and she were 'family'? That close? Or do you think she's just trying to guilt trip you?

ZenNudist · 01/09/2026 12:56

OP this woman is a user. She is not your friend. Id get out of the arrangement.

In a normal arrangement you say "my fees have gone up, they are now x". If they are not happy they can go elsewhere.

You need to tell her that her reaction has upset you and she clearly thinks it's Okay to underpay you which is not friend or family behaviour. Get another client and drop her.

Of course she's going to say she will pay (grudgingly) where else is she going to get cheap cleaning and pet care. Stop letting her manipulate you. My cleaner charges me £20/hr north west uk. Pet care would be extra.

Hobnobbled · 01/09/2026 12:55

Unless she is 90 you are both going to outlive the cat so what does it matter that she is leaving it to you in the will?

She is being very manipulative. Step away from cleaning saying you don't want a transactional relationship so it's better that take business out of it.

Seeingadistance · 01/09/2026 12:49

ChopSueyCharcuterieBoard · 01/09/2026 09:48

I would step away from the whole arrangement.

She's making a mug out of you, and shown that she doesn't give a shit by her reaction to you increasing your prices.

Write an email terminating the contract and then block her on everything.

This.

She's taking advantage of you.

malware · 01/09/2026 12:47

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 12:29

I see what you all saying - that i am gifting free labour .. one point she made was ‘ I thought we were family’

  • i do not know how to respond to that .Would appreciate view of that?
  • she seems genuinely hurt / angry - maybe am wrong .

Assertive response to this:
I do an excellent job for you, I am very reliable and for that I deserve a living wage. To be honest, there are so many chancers out there, I think you're lucky to have me.

disturbia · 01/09/2026 12:46

Yellowishflowers · 01/09/2026 12:18

Last year yy 19 year old daughter was asked to look after 2 school going children for the 6 week holidays 5 days a week. Aged 7-10.

The rate was only ok but it was convenient.
On the 4th day of the first week the mum added in two other children because her friend was stuck without checking with my daughter that it was ok.

On the friday she paid her.
She left and found there was nothing extra.
She text her directly and asked her why and was told that the children were playing together and there wasn't much more involved.
I was livid, how dare she treat my daughter like that.
My daughter was very pissed off and said nope, no longer interested.

My daughter text her back, that is not acceptable, find someone else.
She blew up her phone and eventually my daughter spoke to her.
She apologised and said she didn't want to lose her as the children had loved her.

My daughter said no thanks, you were very rude and disrespectful of me in doing this and I am no longer interested. She actually started to cry as she said she would be so stuck. My daughter told her you should have thought of that before you treated me like this.

As it happens that evening her pal said there might be a spot in a local busy pub restaurant and she got a trial on the Saturday which went well.
She is still working there and loves it, paid and treated well.

On the monday the woman called again saying she was so stuck and couldn't find anyone.
My daughter told her that I have already found another job so please do not contact me again.

She learned a lot from that experience.
Some people will try and rip you off, and you need to push back firmly to stand up for yourself.

Your daughter did well dealing with that rip off situation. OP keep reading this particular post and do the same thing.

Boomboomi · 01/09/2026 12:45

Isittimeformynapyet
My friends agree with much of this thread.
Have said things like
” dump her “
and just because she is emotional - does not mean I have to be responsible for it
manipulation also mentioned as well as the fact we can all have our weak spots
I guess I am struggling not to be compassionate of the emotional reaction she had - she is indicating she feels let down etc whcich is not a nice feeling .. and my own anxiety - my dh says am now scared of her .
Maybe compasion needs to be dealt with an i need to look at the potential manipulation- its just feels horrid that ot could be that
. i was thinking the lash out could be fear ( of loosing a good deal ?)
She was my first client amd said she had been my ‘ bread and butter’ and I think she sounds offended that I am now more busy with full oayimg clients and possibly angey as that to her means I am putting money
I
can
earn before friendship
.

I am going to be very forthright and repeat my stance -that she is still getting mates rates and the need to earn does not mean lackmof care.
I will stick to that .

OP posts:
Sashimiandhisthunderpaws · 01/09/2026 12:44

I’d leave it until she’s back and have a chat in person.

“Friend, I really value our friendship and I don’t want money to damage the relationship. For that reason I’m giving you X weeks notice that I’m going to stop cleaning for you. That way we can focus on our friendship and I can pet sit for you.”

You can then fill that slot with full rate paying client.

DontEatTheMushies · 01/09/2026 12:44

Sounds like she cant afford a cleaner then

Yellowishflowers · 01/09/2026 12:43

How much has this cost you OP?
Exactly how much?
You are probably giving her a free holiday?
Is anyone giving you a free holiday?
Cat sitters are expensive.
It really benefits her to manipulate you.

malefields · 01/09/2026 12:42

I’m confused. Is she the single parent or did you mean yourself?

Because if she’s a single parent but she can also afford a cleaner and a pet, I really don’t see what she’s struggling with.

UnitaBath · 01/09/2026 12:42

My sister and I have a small cleaning business. First rule is to never become over friendly with clients. We are friendly and kind especially to the older clients who often need a bit of extra help but they are work to us and cannot be anything more. I used to be a personal assistant for disabled people and the same rule applied. When you work in people’s homes it’s very easy to cross that line but you can bet your bottom dollar it will go tits up if you do.

Sadly this lady is manipulating you and taking the piss. We had a client like this, she was very good with her passive aggressive comments but she just wore us down in the end. We let her go last month and the relief was instant.

Stalygirl · 01/09/2026 12:41

Could you continue to look after her pet if you’re attached, but say for the sake of your friendship you need to stop cleaning? It is your job. She’s your friend too, but she’s not cleaning for you because that’s not her job, and if she can pay the going rate for nails, she can pay the going rate for a cleaner!

itsalltoplayfor · 01/09/2026 12:40

she will have the ‘ privilege’ for doing so as she needs me

See? That language is very manipulative with a nasty edge to it. The crying and guilt tripping....no, not fair. "I thought we were family"...wail...no, you're not. She's now going to blank you until she gets home and fair enough no-one wants to deal with domestic issues whilst you're trying to enjoy your holiday but I'd be very cautious about her manipulating you further when she has you face to face.
She should appreciate that you do her a favour charging her well below market rate. Does she know how much you've saved her? And yet she can afford some of the nicer things in life because she 'works so hard'. Reframe that!
As for the cat, did she say it's in the will without consulting you? There is no legal obligation on your part but it's a cheek not to ask first (if, indeed, that's for real - it's all emotional blackmail). She's wily, you're maybe a bit soft and she's taking advantage of that.

KookyFish · 01/09/2026 12:39

Is it a cleaner? I was thinking dog walker?

Yellowishflowers · 01/09/2026 12:39

Friends don't screw each over like this and use them.

She is a grifter and you have absolutely been taken for a ride.

Best to send a message above that it would be a shame to spoil the friendship, so you will find someone else for the slot.

You won't see your "friend" for dust🙄.

Genevieva · 01/09/2026 12:37

Having a cleaner is a luxury. If she can’t afford it, she should clean her own house. Tell her you need to work for the full market rate to pay your own bills. I doubt very much she has a formal will drawn up by a solicitor if she is this tight, but if she wants to pay to change it, so be it. Chances are she will outlive the pet by many years.