Where are all of the Labour voters in real life?!

I was a healthcare professional in northampton in covid, I alongside all my Dr colleagues queued up to have the vaccine especially after our colleagues started to be affected- some died. I don’t know of one of my friends at work who would say that about the vaccine - covid was horrific for some of us. I am also a labour voter, my parents were wealthy/ family money people, lifelong tory voters!!

The people I socialise with are a mixed group of voters, in my family my DD votes reform, my DS green. I think you may find people hide who they really are in polite company and don’t want to have political conversations or deep discussions about covid!!!

In my experience, as a member of the education sector with many friends in senior management, you are wrong about heads being Tory.

I live in the North West. I and nearly everyone I know are labour voters. I am very happy to be defined as a socialist - currently benefiting from those beliefs in my NHS hospital bed. I could and would never, ever vote Tory. I would spoil my ballot first.

I’m a labour voter and always have been (apart from one tactical Lib Dem vote many years ago).
No, I don’t agree with absolutely everything they say or do but I do believe that they make decisions with more good intention than the other parties.
I couldn’t consider voting Green now and think that the most important thing at the next election is to keep out the far right.

Most people I know are centre left for some things & centre right for others so they switch between labour & Tory at the voting booth.

My next door neighbour is an NHS consultant and definitely a Tory counsellor. DD2’s orthodontist who is also an NHS professor is also definitely a Tory. In state education, the teachers and TAs generally more Labour, but the heads and the CEOs of academy chains, I reckon more likely Tory.

A lot of Reform voters are keeping their powder dry.

I guess it depends where your bubble is. I was raised by a leftie, my friends are lefties, I work for a trade union. The area where I live is strongly libdem so I suppose right wing people are a rarity in my life. I do read some right wing papers to keep up with what they're thinking, though!

i find this surprising because I have never met anyone who is reasonably well educated that is Anti Vax during or after Covid, or that thinks there was a conspiracy- that's basically insels in their parents basements.
i am not convinced this is a genuine post.

People generally aren’t as rude in real life as they are on social media. The medium itself and the anonymity it allows take away inhibitions.

Seems v strange. I know a lot of nhs workers and cant imagine are reform voters. Most seem pretty Labour or lib. V few seem Conservatives

I find this v hard to believe

I find this v hard to believe

I'm labour through and through. I was bought up in an affluent Tory family background. The last time I voted Tory was 2010. I never will again. I finally broke the chains of my upbringing. It's to extensive to go through the whys and wherefores of why etc. I don't know anyone right wing

People generally have a tendency to accommodate when talking to others. When they don’t know someone very well they will temper what they say to suit the person they are talking to. Tradespeople in particular have to be careful not to upset their customers in case they don’t get repeat business. Think about it, have you ever fallen out with your hairdresser over politics or current affairs - I bet not.
Also, the way people vote depends on many issues, not just the headline ones. Politics is about choosing the least bad option so often you don’t agree with everything your chosen candidate stands for.
Finally, you ask where all the Labour voters are. Remember that Labour got into power with only 20% of the possible vote. So only one in five people you meet are likely to have voted Labour.

I’d be interested to know what area specifically this is. As i’m in makerfield too, and the majority of people I know voted for Burnham.

The illegal immigration is being framed differently now - malicious gangs funded by foreign enemy states to infiltrate and exploit vulnerable people all at the same time. That is a plausible narrative for something to oppose even if you are on the left, including the underground slave trade and disappearance on our own streets and exploitation of such people.

I think Burnham also understands that certain key things matter, like not letting out certain prisoners early or making sure certain Pakistani criminals are indeed returned. It is easy for politicians to ignore some cases, but when there has been a really bad thing that happens people do expect them to exert their huge power in the right, just and moral way. If Pakistan is sending millions of vulnerable Afghanis back they should jolly well take their own criminals back too.

Hiya 👋 labour voter for the last 15 years. Partner the same. Our parents are all long term labour voters.
I live in Makerfield constituency, and voted for Andy Burnham, as did most people i know, a few voted for reform.

Most of my family and most of my friends are labour voters. Grew up in a very working class family in Scotland, some of the younger family members vote SNP, but most who stayed are Labour voters.
I now live in an affluent area of an English city, but a left leaning inner city suburb. It is still very much Labour here. DH and I have noticed that our friends who moved out into the leafier parts say things that we consider racist, and whilst they don’t share how they vote, I have no doubt it is conservative or Reform.
I remember when I was in my 20s someone told me you get more right wing as you get older. I certainly see that in some of my friends from that period, but DH and I have become more left wing!

Well I smell horseshit in the OP's post - he certainly doesn't live in the same UK that I do.

And the 99% of people who you've spoken to about those harms are spot-on - maybe some wider reading is the way to go for you there's lots of it on Twitter - there is some very interesting and conclusive sign posting on there if you really want to expand your knowledge base - and it isn't to be ignored or debased because more and more negativity about the deleterious nature of those injectables is being exposed

I worked during the pandemic. And most staff recommended it for the first year to 18 months. And then the enthusiasm wasn’t as intense as before but it was still being recommended. That poster met an unusual NHS staff cohort it seems.

Possibly the ones who talk about it are though. I occasionally reference COVID but although it had a big impact it's not a daily conversation.topic anymore. And more so the efficacy of vaccines/government conspiracy theories

I am quite politically engaged I would say and do talk about the news/politics etc on real life with people. But I mostly talk about other stuff unless I'm angry at something/someone. And there are loads of people I know where I have no idea which party they support. The most vocal will be those at the extremes (left and right) or the most dissatisfied.

I also think connecting "Labour voter" to wanting uncontrolled migration is a mistake anyway. That's not a manifesto they campaigned.on if we believe manifestos.

I honestly cannot believe anything you’ve said. 99% of people as one of your quotes.

Basically you've got a very outdated, if not downright odd, idea of what Labour voters think and what the Labour party's stance on a lot of issues is. It's not all Citizen Smith/Dave Spart/Arthur Scargill any more.