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AIBU to support Mum over my brother in property dispute?

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BePeachBiscuit · 31/08/2026 23:01

I would love your views but this is a long one so please bear with me.

The context is that me (41), my brother (39) and my sister (37) grew up in a small holding, a small ex-farm with about 6 acres. My sister and I left home at around 20 but my brother never really did. He runs a landscaping business so storing his vehicles and tools there was always important. He lived in my mums house until he was about 35 (minus about 4-5 years here and there) when he converted one of the barns on her property into a house. Whilst he lived with my mum he never paid for rent, bills or food but he would do general building jobs and landscaping work. My mum would pay for some of these jobs but not all given that he wasn’t paying towards bills. Both parties thought they were getting a bad deal.

When my brother decided to convert the barn, my mum got the property valued and the barn and yard were worth a third of the total so she signed that over to my brother and has left the rest to me and my sister in her will (obviously depending on what happens before then - she is super healthy and will hopefully live for many more years and may decide to sell etc). She told us all about this plan at the time but my brother insists he didn’t hear it.

A huge problem has arisen now because after moving into the barn he is pressuring my mum to put the whole property into trust or let him buy her house now so he owns the whole thing. My mum doesn’t want to do this because she wants to keep control of her own house, especially because my brother can be quite dominating and forceful. My brother feels the current arrangement is very unfair because he has put so much work into the whole property, he couldn’t live with neighbours if my mum or us wanted / needed to sell it, and in however many years time he won’t have the money to buy us out. He also thinks the valuation was unfair. He is desperate to find a way to keep the property whole and ideally under his ownership. We have suggested he buy an investment property instead but he doesn’t want to do this.

My sister and I don’t even want to discuss this given that my mum is alive and well. But my stepdad died without a will and it was awful, which is why my mum wants it all agreed. And its stressing my brother so much that it is now causing a huge family rift. We’ve tried counselling but didn’t get anywhere.

So I’d love your advice.

AINBU by siding with my mum and telling my brother that this arrangement is fair, my mum won’t sign over the whole house and his best bet is long term planning to buy us out eventually (assuming my mum doesn’t want / need to sell in the meantime). Or AIBU and I should think about my brother’s side more and how to talk to my mum about transitioning the house to him? Thank you in advance for your help, any thoughts gratefully received.

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Redpaisley · 31/08/2026 23:28

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 31/08/2026 23:24

Did he do and pay for the work on the barn? I imagine that's added a fair bit of value, has that been taken into account in the valuation? I think unfortunately the fact he's not paid any rent or for food etc won't mean much in legal terms (but IANAL).

Aside from that why on earth does he think he deserves the whole property?! It's crazy.

Even if he paid for barn conversion. He has used the house rent free for 15 more years than sisters did. So there had an unfair advantage.
2nd he has got ownership of his 1/3 share now versus his sisters getting years down the line.
So he should stop complaining. And it’s Op’s mum’s wishes. If she wants she can give him nothing to the greedy son.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 31/08/2026 23:24

Did he do and pay for the work on the barn? I imagine that's added a fair bit of value, has that been taken into account in the valuation? I think unfortunately the fact he's not paid any rent or for food etc won't mean much in legal terms (but IANAL).

Aside from that why on earth does he think he deserves the whole property?! It's crazy.

Redpaisley · 31/08/2026 23:24

YANBU.

I have seen this is my own family. My uncle, who was financial very well off himself, felt so entitled to my grandfather’s property that he created a will the way he wanted and asked my grandfather to sign it. My grandfather was so hurt that he went along and did what his son wanted. And then for years regretting how unfair the deal was to the daughters one of whom had a mental health issue because of which she could not work full time and didn’t get married. She was the one who cared for her parents more than other children.
Your mom should tell him that this is her home and he cannot pressure to sell it to him. Where does he think your mum will live?

WerewolfOfLoudon · 31/08/2026 23:24

He should have paid rent for the 15 additional years he lived in his mum's house if he wants paid back for his investment in converting his own home @MiceSpiders.

Support your mum @BePeachBiscuit , your brother sounds greedy and selfish.

MiceSpiders · 31/08/2026 23:18

Did he pay to convert the barn? If so it's only worth what it is because of his investment, so to say all he gets is essentially his own money back feels a bit off. I think look at the whole estate before he did the conversion, the value then and divide by 3, take into account the value of the pre reno barn and the land it sits on, not its current state

Smokeywater · 31/08/2026 23:17

He hasn’t paid rent and didn’t buy the barn off her - as far as I can see he deserves nothing but if your DM becomes ill or frail he may pressurise her to give the rest of it to him. I would speak to a solicitor and possibly get power of attorney for DM set up in you and sisters names so you have some control if eg she suffers dementia or goes into a care home in the future.

Catroo · 31/08/2026 23:17

Was the site valuation before or after planning on the barn?
For it to worth a third of the value of the whole, sounds like they consided the potential and not the actual.
How easy is it to split this off from the main residence?
Driveway/parking/boundaries/water supply etc, have they all been split?

On paper it sounds reasonable, but I could envisage it's not really a separate dwelling. But, your brother would have known this and has proceeded anway

Dumbledore167 · 31/08/2026 23:14

More info needed I think.
Could he afford to buy it now, in theory?
He thinks the valuation is too high, or too low?
Why didn’t he pay rent?
Does he have his own family?
How does he know he couldn’t “cope” with neighbours? Most of us manage just fine. Has he a personality disorder or antisocial tendencies etc?

Ultimately he can’t force your mum to do something she doesn’t want to do can he so he’ll just have to suck it up? I guess she can’t evict him now if she’s signed the barn over already though (should his moaning drive her to want to). 🤔

onpaperitsgreat · 31/08/2026 23:14

Your mother has three children, each get a third. It’s the only fair way. You and your sister can decide to sell to your brother at market value when the time comes.

Your mother is doing right by all three of her children.

HumberSquid · 31/08/2026 23:09

Well it might be useful to understand why your brother thinks the initial valuation was unfair and to think about how the property might work if you/your sister (or your mum for that matter) decide to sell one day but no your mum should not feel forced, or obligated, to sign off the property to him now or leave it to him in her will.

So yes, listen to his arguments if you haven't already but unless you find them compelling, support your mum.