Free school breakfast for every child

Well they do that at a school mentioned on this post - have breakfast available at dropoff. So depends on what is meant by breakfast club I suppose. I’d imagine it will be hideously expensive if they need enough staff for the entire school roll.

Or pay for the wrap around care

It was the way it was said and if they need the wrap around care it needs to be paid for

Even if schools do breakfast its unlikely they'd be open much before 8.30 for a 9am start.
Which is OK if you work locally anyone with any travel really is still going to need a Childminder

She said she pays for breakfast club, if it was free she wouldn't have to pay for breakfast club. What's so hard to understand

And parents who need to leave at 7am to get to work?

What?
So you think they give open the canteen m, have kids help themselves to toast but nobody to actually watch the kids?

youll still need to pay for wrap around care

Because if school are doing free breakfast then they must be open before 9am, why pay for childcare if school will do it free?

Why wouldn’t you pay for the childcare? Unless you no longer need it?

Of course it is.

There's a word for telling certain groups of people they're not allowed to have children...

@zingally Rhere are actually very few reasons why a parent cannot feed a child. Usually chaotic lifestyle and not enough money because they have too many dc. There’s no need to offer every child breakfast! It’s way too expensive.

It’s rarely the case that a parent managing perfectly well suddenly doesn’t. Other than new dc coming along that they patently cannot afford.

But again, THAT'S NOT THE CHILDREN'S FAULT.

There are dozens of reasons why a parent may struggle to provide their child an adequate breakfast. It's not my place to judge them. "There, but for the grace of god, go I."

Absolutely this. They know they'll be bailed out using other people's money so they just carry on.

@ForMerryPinkCat No it’s not! The poor have more dc than other groups and expect too much from the state. It’s the mc who are not having dc and we need them to. Some people absolutely should be limiting family size. It’s not on for general taxation to pay for breakfasts! If you cannot feed dc, absolutely don’t have them!

What an awful thing to say.

@Boomer55

Rose tinted glasses there hun.

Plenty of kids went to school hungry and in fact the school dinner may have been their only meal of the day. There's always been kids who go hungry for whatever reason.

I can't believe people are objecting to children being fed. The whole point of a society is we look after our weakest members.

https://resolvepoverty.org/the-cost-of-hunger-and-hardship/

1 in 7 people in the UK face hunger and hardship, including 3 million children, and numbers are set to rise without urgent action

3 million children.

@FrostyPalms Well give breakfast to them then and tell them not to have more dc!

And screw the unfortunate kids whose parents are too poor, busy, uneducated, in poor mental health or addicted to provide them a nutritious breakfast!

A lovely reminder of the time an absolute dick of a colleague was fired for sending us all an email calling us morans. I won't stop relishing the memory if I live to be a hundred.

Yep. Do people really think it's a coincidence that compulsory education followed in the wake of industrialization?

Kids don't "need milk" - nobody does. Milk is infant food and there's nothing natural or even particularly healthy about drinking the infant food of another species or drinking any kind of infant food when you're no longer an infant. (I do, and I like it, but I know it's no more essential than the gin that I also like). In global terms, it's more common to be lactose intolerant than not. Asian kids aren't all guzzling milk. Milk is basically drops of fat suspended in water. And a bit of calcium and protein and so on, yes, but nothing that isn't available in lots of other foods. (A Korean would tell you kids "need" kimchi). Kids need nutrients, of various kinds; there's no one essential way to deliver them. (And some kids get so used to filling up on the fat-water that they don't eat enough real food).

Yes, of course parents should be feeding their kids. But free school food programmes are there to benefit the poor defenceless kids whose parents don't. And maybe increase, just slightly, their chances of getting a decent education and escaping the awful situation they were born to. It's not about making life easier for the parents. It's to help the kids.

At the school where I live now, and my younger children go to, I can guarantee that the people some think this is aimed at - the ones who can’t be arsed to get out of bed and make a bowl of cereal - would not bring their children in any earlier for a breakfast club type thing.

It was me who mentioned the bagels on the playground. That works really well at our school. It’s not just for the children, it’s for siblings and parents too. Everyone who asks is handed one and parents are encouraged to take any surplus bags of bagels from the reception area at the end of each week.

But the school have such huge problems with attendance and punctuality anyway. It’s not like people have to travel, the majority of children are local. If they can’t get them into school and fed by 9am, they aren’t going to have them up and ready for 8am.

And there just aren’t enough working families where I am for there to be a need for provision for parents to drop earlier to get to work.

(I know a lot about the school as I volunteer as the parent peer co ordinator and go in to meetings with the parents for attendance and things if they want me too, I used to previously work as welfare/attendance myself so I can explain how things go to them and some parents find that helpful. I know ^^ sounds a bit judgy but I’m not, I’m just telling it how it happens in the area I live).

I think a lot of people are assuming this will be a breakfast club type provision.

more likely it will be done during early morning activities/registration time, or like a previous poster mentioned with the free bagels done on the playground before school.

Agree.

The people who are likely to benefit are those less in need who will be able to take advantage of not having to pay for breakfast club when they usually would.