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AIBU to think my MIL is rattled by my opinion of her?

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AvocadoRules · 31/08/2026 12:32

So, my MIL has always been awful to me, and to other people too. A few years ago I pulled her up on her behaviour and after the denials and gaslighting she got upset and said "she thinks we are horrible people". I didn't say that directly to her, but whatever I said insinuated that they (in-laws) are not nice people to be around. Well, it was the truth, they are not. My MIL is a narcissist. She ticks every one of the boxes.

Anyway, since then she toned it down a bit, but it didn't last long. However, one thing she does do is go out of her way to tell me what a nice person she is, and lots of virtue signalling. Last year she was telling me about something nice her DD did (I don't believe it as her DD is a chip off the old block and the most self absorbed and entitled person I have ever met) and I said "really?" and she got upset saying "yes, she is a nice person you know" and got all flustered.

More recently I was with them, and someone also present asked her to impart some wisdom to which she replied something very close to "I've come to realise that if someone has an opinion of you, that is not correct, then there is nothing you can do about that, you know yourself, and you know you are a good person and that is all that matters. It doesn't matter what they think". I think she is angry at me for seeing her true colours.

AIBU to realise that after all the years of my MIL being an absolute cow to me, I have got to her? I have hit a nerve?

I could carry on just ignoring her, living my best life, which I have been doing, which really annoys her. She hates to see me thriving.

Or.....I could have fun with this, but I don't know how.

How could I have fun with this?

OP posts:
HouseBee · 31/08/2026 16:32

Treat people how you would want them to treat you and you might fair a bit better.

Not about the OP as such but I disagree.
Unfortunately, some people take being treated with kindness as a weakness and then use it at their advantage.
Some people only understand when people show to be ‘stronger’ than them and put them right in their place. Even by any standard this is rude/not very nice.
My father is one of those men. Controlling and only showing respect to those above him/stronger than him.

Weeellokthen · 31/08/2026 16:28

I think you are lacking of self-awareness 😂
Get on with "living your best life" (how that differs from just living your life, I do not know 😆)

Freeme31 · 31/08/2026 16:27

Actually you don’t sound like a very nice person. Treat people how you would want them to treat you and you might fair a bit better. Two wrong don’t make a right. Oh and grow up

MyLittleNest · 31/08/2026 16:23

As the daughter of the kind of woman you are describing, when she starts with the self-praise about what a do-gooder she is, the best thing you can do is show no reaction. My (cruel, evil, malignant narc) mother used to go so far as to bring thank you cards she received from people to my house for me to read while she sat there and nodded her head, all as one more attempt to show how she is a good person and other people think so, etc. It was bizarre. She started doing charity stuff for elderly people to virtue signal to the community, but then she would do nothing but talk TERRIBLY about the people she was helping behind their backs to me, etc. Anyway, I get what you are describing. She wants a reaction. Give her NONE. Just a neutral face, nothing else.

FofB · 31/08/2026 16:23

"Look Majorie, you don't need to justify yourself to me. When you lie in bed at night and think about your day, only you know if you've been a kind, decent person. If you say you are a good person, who am I to say otherwise....."

HouseBee · 31/08/2026 16:22

Heronwatcher · 31/08/2026 13:19

FFS this is the woman who raised your DH. She can’t be that bad surely if you like him?

If you don’t get on with eachother spend as little time together as possible but try to be at least pleasant for your DH’s sake.

Really?
id say I’m a nice person. Certainly my dh thinks I’m nice enough to have spent the last 26 years living with me.

Yet my parents are crap. Emotionally immature and left me with cptsd.

Do you REALLY think that if someone turns out ok it’s because their parents are nice people? 😂😂

Wadsworthy · 31/08/2026 16:15

If you want to indulge in a bit of power play to prove to yourself you are the most important person in the world, knock yourself out.

But no-one else needs to agree with you.

DNLove · 31/08/2026 16:15

If they go low, you go high. You've made your point, maintain whatever distance you can and get on with your life. Why would you want to keep poking at her.

MustWeDoThis · 31/08/2026 16:11

AvocadoRules · 31/08/2026 13:18

No, you are right, I won’t bother now. There is a list as long as my arm, but it won’t be believed.

I think the very fact that my FIL is now saying he just can’t cope with her now due to her nastiness is quite telling now.

I’m happy to be the bad guy here. She’s been awful to not only me, but my DH too. I’ve avoided her but seeing her rattled did make me feel better.

You're in the exact same position as my husband and I. We have gone NC with MIL and SIL. When we blocked them and they couldn't get to us, they started messaging vile things to our young children, instead (tween and teens). The children then decided to block them because they were extremely upset.

I don't know what it is with this generation of MIL's, but they are utterly vile (other than a lovely few who are a blessing in disguise!). You will find that generation of MIL's are the ones most likely to jump on your back, in this thread, because they are projecting their guilty self consciousness. They won't admit this, because a narcissist will always be the victim.

I met the last bout of narcissism and gaslighting, with a healthy dose of silence. It was a long list of horrid things since my husband was a child and this was the final straw with his mother. When she came for me, his wife&children - He finally snapped and stuck it to her and his sister.

Silence really is the best response, because if you give up your peace for them then they've won. Carry on living a happy life and let her get on with whatever unhinged nonsense is going through her head. She's clearly jealous, bitter, and unhappy in her life. It's likely her husband will leave her - You could get him on your side, but seems like he already is.

Let her shoot herself in her foot. If she's constantly looking for validation that she's a 'naice person' and constantly needing to reinforce it with herself, it's because deep down she knows she isn't. You have hit a nerve in the best way.

Those who fall from grace need no help.

Carry on living a fab life and watch her head do a 360.

godmum56 · 31/08/2026 16:09

I wouldn't "have fun" with this, That kind of fun has a habit of coming back and biting you in the arse

Anarchy99 · 31/08/2026 16:06

It sounds like MIL is trying to change your opinion of her and her daughter (as you have clearly made no secret of your utter dislike and contempt for them).

Don’t ‘have fun with it’ unless you want to ramp up the drama (which I’m guessing you do). You are clearly glad about your FIL. I don’t know if it’s intentional but you sound quite gleefully spiteful.

Can you not just tolerate them? If not, then don’t see them. I can bet that your MIL isn’t the only one at fault here.

ThatCyanCat · 31/08/2026 16:04

It's one of those ones where I do really wish we could hear the other side.

Finaly · 31/08/2026 16:03

AvocadoRules · 31/08/2026 13:18

No, you are right, I won’t bother now. There is a list as long as my arm, but it won’t be believed.

I think the very fact that my FIL is now saying he just can’t cope with her now due to her nastiness is quite telling now.

I’m happy to be the bad guy here. She’s been awful to not only me, but my DH too. I’ve avoided her but seeing her rattled did make me feel better.

I believe you OP, I had a MIL like that. A deeply unpleasant woman. I won't go into details but my DH's sibling moved hundreds of miles away and went very low contact due to MIL's behaviour. DH could barely tolerate her.

I ended up telling her what I thought of her years ago and cut contact completely. We still lived locally and my DH would visited occasionally but would get up and leave when she started her nonsense so she reigned it in a bit.

I'd have enjoyed seem my MIL rattled by my presence too but you've said your piece, just move on and live your best life.

TorroFerney · 31/08/2026 16:02

You may have got to her but she’s very much got to you or you wouldn’t be asking g the question. What you want to get to is apathy where she just doesn’t feature in your thoughts from one day to the next. Not to be seeking a dopamine hit by irking her more. I know why you want to of course but a peaceful life is a lot better.

KidsDoBetter · 31/08/2026 15:59

You sound pretty awful

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 31/08/2026 15:47

PrincessofWills · 31/08/2026 15:44

I'm posting this once and then blocking this thread because I don't need to get into a discussion about this, neither do I need validation.

The misogyny and ageism on mumsnet is horrendous. Women trying to take other women down. The reason women have a small semblance of equality and equal opportunity is because women over 60 fought for it, on picket lines, in legal fights in courtroom, and with trade unions, and on marches. It cost some women their jobs but they were resilient. To hear women accusing other women of narcissistic behaviour because they don't agree with you, or have different standards of behaviour is awful. To deliberately set out to hurt another woman for any reason is just horrible.

Why not just accept we all have different standards, we believe in different things, we have different coloured skin, different religions, different politics, different views and that's because the societies we were brought up in were different, our parent(s) were different, our parents/societies have different values. We don't have to agree with one another and debate can be healthy but calling another woman a narcissist or bitching about their appearance is awful.

Some of the things I'm reading on here are thoroughly shameful. Get a grip women . . .

I know you said you're taking your ball and going home but this bit did make me laugh...

"Why not just accept we all have different standards, we believe in different things"

But then...

"Some of the things I'm reading on here are thoroughly shameful. Get a grip women . . ."

🤣🤣🤣

PrincessofWills · 31/08/2026 15:44

I'm posting this once and then blocking this thread because I don't need to get into a discussion about this, neither do I need validation.

The misogyny and ageism on mumsnet is horrendous. Women trying to take other women down. The reason women have a small semblance of equality and equal opportunity is because women over 60 fought for it, on picket lines, in legal fights in courtroom, and with trade unions, and on marches. It cost some women their jobs but they were resilient. To hear women accusing other women of narcissistic behaviour because they don't agree with you, or have different standards of behaviour is awful. To deliberately set out to hurt another woman for any reason is just horrible.

Why not just accept we all have different standards, we believe in different things, we have different coloured skin, different religions, different politics, different views and that's because the societies we were brought up in were different, our parent(s) were different, our parents/societies have different values. We don't have to agree with one another and debate can be healthy but calling another woman a narcissist or bitching about their appearance is awful.

Some of the things I'm reading on here are thoroughly shameful. Get a grip women . . .

Naurrr · 31/08/2026 15:41

AlgaeDreams · 31/08/2026 14:24

If you're adult enough to have a child and be married, then surely you are mature enough to realise that you are behaving like a child.
It's an uncomfortable read from you.
Glee...
Playing games... Yada yada.

I'm a MIL, although I'm not as my son and his ex split up soon after baby born. It was a happy accident
4 years on, I love my not DIL, I love my granddaughter. We've had words, usually regarding my son. There have been periods of no contact. Purely through anger and being a new young Mum.
We text weekly now, we've agreed not to mention my son. We share days out and just... Get on...

You @AvocadoRules have nothing to work on and nothing to moan about because you are too immature to appreciate what you have.

Carry on with your childish nurr nurr at Mil. It's your child that loses out.

OP doesn't mention having a kid?

morecakeneverstop · 31/08/2026 15:40

Good for you! It's hard to be endlessly polite to people who aren't nice.

But she'll never change, so try to rise above it, Limit contact, if you can. It's hard if it's someone you have to see often. Take care of yourself 💐

user1464187087 · 31/08/2026 15:39

AvocadoRules · 31/08/2026 12:32

So, my MIL has always been awful to me, and to other people too. A few years ago I pulled her up on her behaviour and after the denials and gaslighting she got upset and said "she thinks we are horrible people". I didn't say that directly to her, but whatever I said insinuated that they (in-laws) are not nice people to be around. Well, it was the truth, they are not. My MIL is a narcissist. She ticks every one of the boxes.

Anyway, since then she toned it down a bit, but it didn't last long. However, one thing she does do is go out of her way to tell me what a nice person she is, and lots of virtue signalling. Last year she was telling me about something nice her DD did (I don't believe it as her DD is a chip off the old block and the most self absorbed and entitled person I have ever met) and I said "really?" and she got upset saying "yes, she is a nice person you know" and got all flustered.

More recently I was with them, and someone also present asked her to impart some wisdom to which she replied something very close to "I've come to realise that if someone has an opinion of you, that is not correct, then there is nothing you can do about that, you know yourself, and you know you are a good person and that is all that matters. It doesn't matter what they think". I think she is angry at me for seeing her true colours.

AIBU to realise that after all the years of my MIL being an absolute cow to me, I have got to her? I have hit a nerve?

I could carry on just ignoring her, living my best life, which I have been doing, which really annoys her. She hates to see me thriving.

Or.....I could have fun with this, but I don't know how.

How could I have fun with this?

No thought for your husband in this then? Just yourself? You sound horrible OP.

Livelovebehappy · 31/08/2026 15:33

By ‘having fun’ goading and poking your mil, you’re being no better than her, and your own behaviour of thinking to do this is also linked to narcissism. Have you not got other stuff in your life you can focus on and put energy into? I have a narcissistic mother and I learnt how to deal with by just grey rocking and not reacting. I just live my best life with low contact with my dm, and definitely wouldn’t use any headspace trying to wind her up. You’re over invested. Get yourself a hobby.

DysmalRadius · 31/08/2026 15:33

Heronwatcher · 31/08/2026 13:19

FFS this is the woman who raised your DH. She can’t be that bad surely if you like him?

If you don’t get on with eachother spend as little time together as possible but try to be at least pleasant for your DH’s sake.

I hate it when people say this as it suggests that the children of absusers are inherently unloveable.

Even if your parents are shit, you can still be a good person who deserves love and happiness in their lives.

ebfwtf · 31/08/2026 15:31

you sound like you might prove the old “men marry their mothers” theory true

Pastit12 · 31/08/2026 15:25

There is a saying “ holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die “
You obviously don’t like you mil / sil so just live your life and don’t give them any headspace

WhereYouLeftIt · 31/08/2026 15:19

AvocadoRules · 31/08/2026 13:18

No, you are right, I won’t bother now. There is a list as long as my arm, but it won’t be believed.

I think the very fact that my FIL is now saying he just can’t cope with her now due to her nastiness is quite telling now.

I’m happy to be the bad guy here. She’s been awful to not only me, but my DH too. I’ve avoided her but seeing her rattled did make me feel better.

She's not worth your energy.

But I think you're right that she's rattled. Every non-narcissistGrin likes to think of themselves as a good person. Nobody thinks that they themselves are horrible.They tell themselves that anything less than saintly behaviour on their part is necessary, because

  1. that person needs to be told that they're just plain wrong or they'll keep being wrong
  2. I have standards to maintain, they need to raise their standards
  3. I'm tired
  4. I'm in a hurry I have more important things to think about than you
  5. They were rude to me
  6. They need to listen to me and my needs if they're going to do their job properly
and so many other reasons why they are a good person dealing with difficult circumstances. Very Hyacinth Bucket, in a way.

So when someone gets through their armour of self-righteousness - as you clearly managed a few years back, it does shake them a bit. And no doubt has made her hate you with a passion, something she will never admit even to herself (because she's a good person, yadda yadda yadda).

I think I'd be perfectly happy watching her tie herself in knots self-justifying.