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AIBU to question a pool asking my four-year-old daughter to cover up?

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ChampagneLassie · 30/08/2026 20:30

I took my two daughters, aged two and four, swimming at Nuffield Health. My four-year-old was wearing swimming bottoms but no top.
A staff member told me she needed to wear something “more appropriate” — apparently a bikini top or one-piece. I asked why, as a four-year-old boy would presumably be allowed to swim topless.
I said I felt this was sexualising a pre-pubescent child. The staff member replied, “I’m a mother. I’m not sexualising children.”
When I asked about the actual policy, she could only say that children had to wear “appropriate clothing”. I’m planning to contact Nuffield for clarification, but I’m interested in other parents’ views.
AIBU to question this? Would you expect a four-year-old girl to have to cover her chest?
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Drivingmissrangey · 30/08/2026 21:21

ChampagneLassie · 30/08/2026 20:39

I’m surprised it’s “the norm” wrestling kids in and out of swimwear is hard. We bought an outfit for holiday that was pants and an a rash vest. Obviously you don’t need the vest for the pool. I’m suprised I am being unconventional! I’d have thought this was the norm

Really? Have you never been to a public pool in the UK before?

Octavia64 · 30/08/2026 21:21

FourSevenFive · 30/08/2026 21:16

That's disingenious.

I've never seen a boy in an equivalent of the tylical girls one piece swimming costume (looking like tank top and knickers together), and quick google doesn't show it would be a thing.

Yes, there is overall/shorts overall styled beach wear for both sexes, which are typically used outdoor for sun protection, but that's irrelevant in a swimming pool.

I used to do triathlons and the triathlon style swim suit was worn by both men and women (and girls and boys for the shorter triathlons they were allowed to do).

many competition swimmers will have similar.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/sports/triathlon/triathlon-swimming?pdt-highlight=09c9c302-f955-4877-9cd4-5911b3d56e19&vc=c251c22&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=gb_t-partbra_ct-shopp_n-mp-sale_ts-pro_f-cv_o-roas_spd-msp_spu-msp_sp-msp_pt-mkp_pnl-mkp_l-en_pp-gads_bm-roa_pr-cpc_&utm_term=n-mp-sale_ts-pro_spd-msp_spu-msp_sp-msp_pt-mkp_l-en&network=g&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21901925655&gbraid=0AAAAADygKq0Vw00nH8Zngt_z35OVLXyCH&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn5ap3JbJlgMVUolQBh30ogzpEAQYASABEgJ65fD_BwE

FourSevenFive · 30/08/2026 21:21

Rosecoffeecup · 30/08/2026 21:13

Those h&m pant sets all have a corresponding long sleeve top to buy too...

Which the OP would presumably use when spending prolonged period on the beach/outside, but which is absolutely pointless in the inside swimming pool.

WearyAuldWumman · 30/08/2026 21:20

When I was a child in the 1960s, those of us in 'deprived' areas were sometimes given 'sunray treament' - boys and girls together, ranged round a sunlamp. We were all just in our underpants.

I know for a fact that that the group contained both sexes, because one of the other children was a boy who was in my reception class and I only knew him from school.

Apparently, the treatment is now thought to be an underlying cause of some skin cancers in my generation. (It was more popular in the 1950s; I'm not sure precisely when the practice ceased, but I know that I got the treatment in 1965, based on when I started school.)

Cora0 · 30/08/2026 21:20

Pinkchickenwine · 30/08/2026 21:03

Nope cannot see that under 2-8 year old swimwear

Can see these

Here you go. You didn’t scroll down to the “Shop the Set” section like @ToKittyornottoKitty mentioned.

They are sold separately to make more money, not because they think people are eager to put their young daughters in only bottoms. Notice that while the bottoms come in a pair, a lot of the tops are sold separately which means two more sales to complete both sets.

AIBU to question a pool asking my four-year-old daughter to cover up?
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AIBU to question a pool asking my four-year-old daughter to cover up?
Anyahyacinth · 30/08/2026 21:20

climbershell · 30/08/2026 21:15

It's no faff with a normal swimsuit. My 4yr old easily puts her on herself, even my 3 year old can.

That’s not true…a trip to pee then back to the pool is awful with extra fabric to draw up over your torso and onto your shoulders.

A normal swimsuit for a 4 year old is just pants

ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/08/2026 21:19

FourSevenFive · 30/08/2026 21:16

That's disingenious.

I've never seen a boy in an equivalent of the tylical girls one piece swimming costume (looking like tank top and knickers together), and quick google doesn't show it would be a thing.

Yes, there is overall/shorts overall styled beach wear for both sexes, which are typically used outdoor for sun protection, but that's irrelevant in a swimming pool.

Now THAT is disingenuous, swim wear is for indoors and out. Loads of people use one pieces for young boys and young girls. And I clearly stated what style I meant which was not a traditional female swimming costume.

Parcelpass · 30/08/2026 21:18

Mulledjuice · 30/08/2026 21:10

maybe when there is something to cover? or when her daughter expresses an opinion?

Each to their own. Its not something I would do with my child. You don't know who is lurking around and yes I know they may look at boys also. But I just think in a public pool its no trouble to put a cozzi on. You do you though.

Kingdomofsleep · 30/08/2026 21:17

ASandwichNamedKevin · 30/08/2026 21:14

Seeing their bottom is inappropriate, for little girls or little boys

Seeing their nipples is not inappropriate, for little girls or little boys.

No hypocrisy.

Yes. A young boy swimming without bottoms is inappropriate. If we say this, are we "sexualising" the boy?

No? No. We aren't. We are protecting his modesty because his genitals are private. This is not sexualising him.

The staff member thinks girls' top halves are private and they need to protect their modesty by covering up. You may disagree (I do) but she's no more sexualising her than we are sexualising that boy.

Can you see the hypocrisy yet or is the chain of logic broken somewhere? Shall I try to break it down clearer?

TY78910 · 30/08/2026 21:17

Catza · 30/08/2026 21:12

I bet you top dollar there isn't a policy which says pre-pubescent kids need to cover up their chest. The "appropriate attire" means don't go swimming in your denim dungarees. Nothing more.
Maybe your pool is very progressive in that regard but I have never seen a poster in any of the pools I used in the past.
And as to how everyone else fells... where do we draw the line? Maybe I feel offended that the guys in my pool don't shave their body hair. Should we have a policy for that too? Feelings are just feelings. Nobody has died from having them and most adults are capable of dealing with theirs without making it into a H&S issue.

My point is more generally around the logistics of allowing top on and top off for some and not others. Some girls hit puberty faster than others, some will not grow breasts until later on. There isn’t a cut off age for no tops with girls. So it’s easier to enforce the rule for all, and not have to police which kid is pre-pubescent enough to wear knickers only.

FourSevenFive · 30/08/2026 21:16

ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/08/2026 21:08

One piece swimwear for young boys is very widely available, the same t shirt and short shape that is available for girls.

That's disingenious.

I've never seen a boy in an equivalent of the tylical girls one piece swimming costume (looking like tank top and knickers together), and quick google doesn't show it would be a thing.

Yes, there is overall/shorts overall styled beach wear for both sexes, which are typically used outdoor for sun protection, but that's irrelevant in a swimming pool.

21stNightOfSeptember · 30/08/2026 21:15

Octavia64 · 30/08/2026 21:13

Lots of them seem to.

like a pp I grew up in the 80s and regularly swam wearing very little (as did the boys).

people are much much more aware of skin cancer these days and children of both sexes have one piece type swimsuits that cover a lot of skin.

it’s a lot easier than reapplying sun cream every 30 mins.

But the OP and her kids were inside a gym/leisure centre.

Not out in the open in direct sunlight?

The poster I quoted said: I think ok on the beach; not in a leisure centre.
I don’t think it’s sexualising your child; it’s normal dress code for swimming.

So should 4yo boys wear a type of swimwear that covers their torso when swimming inside a leisure centre?

climbershell · 30/08/2026 21:15

It's no faff with a normal swimsuit. My 4yr old easily puts her on herself, even my 3 year old can.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/08/2026 21:15

Switcher · 30/08/2026 21:14

Whole country is basically full of lunatics. No other European country is like this.Yanbu.

The drama 😅

ChampagneLassie · 30/08/2026 21:15

Anyahyacinth · 30/08/2026 21:09

You are arguing about by connecting it to sexualising things. Seriously sexualising children doesnt have anything to do with paedophiles. It’s a debate about mini me clothes etc..

It’s why pre puberty nipples must be hidden on girls not boys at 4. It’s restriction and difference. It’s inequality and sexualisation of girls

Thankyou this.

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Ifeelold48 · 30/08/2026 21:15

My kids have never gone swimming without a full swimsuit on. It would not even occur to me to not put a full swimsuit on them. As a victim of child SA ive talk them about what parts are private since they were little. I was being abused at 2.

TwinklyPeachMaker · 30/08/2026 21:15

A young girl at my kid's holiday club insisted on going topless. The club changed their policy overnight so that all children regardless of gender had to wear a swimming top. PITA for me as a mum of 2 boys who have never owned rash vests as my kids were then banned from the pool until I bought an item of clothing that was deemed to be a rash vest (apparently quick dry sports t shirts made of the same material weren't suitable 🙄)

Anyahyacinth · 30/08/2026 21:15

TY78910 · 30/08/2026 21:07

I don’t think she sexualised your DD, it draws attention. You bought a 2 pack bikini bottoms from H&M (designed to mix and match with tops) - I know the kind and they will 100% look like something is missing from the top. For that reason you were told to put a complete set on. It’s unnecessary attention drawing for other swimmers. You might think it’s all innocent and great and super convenient for you, but you don’t know how anyone else feels about that and that’s why the rules are there. What is the cut off point at which they say girls top now must go on? When breast tissue is 0.5cm raised and above? No - the rule must therefore apply to all girls to avoid nonsense arguments.

I took DCs swimming last weekend actually and they had a poster with pictures of what swimwear was permitted.

Meanwhile other threads on MN argue other countries have awful culture for women and the UK has achieved equality…but not for 4 year olds it seems…girls must cover themselves

ASandwichNamedKevin · 30/08/2026 21:14

Kingdomofsleep · 30/08/2026 20:49

And why would pulling their swimsuit off be inappropriate?

Can you not see your hypocrisy?

Seeing their bottom is inappropriate, for little girls or little boys

Seeing their nipples is not inappropriate, for little girls or little boys.

No hypocrisy.

Switcher · 30/08/2026 21:14

Whole country is basically full of lunatics. No other European country is like this.Yanbu.

5682Jhd · 30/08/2026 21:13

I’m with you op, a child’s chest is in no way inappropriate boys or girls. I’d be very surprised if this was the swimming pool’s policy and is more than likely the opinion of this staff member.

Octavia64 · 30/08/2026 21:13

21stNightOfSeptember · 30/08/2026 21:11

So should 4yo boys wear a type of swimwear that covers their torso too?

Lots of them seem to.

like a pp I grew up in the 80s and regularly swam wearing very little (as did the boys).

people are much much more aware of skin cancer these days and children of both sexes have one piece type swimsuits that cover a lot of skin.

it’s a lot easier than reapplying sun cream every 30 mins.

Rosecoffeecup · 30/08/2026 21:13

ChampagneLassie · 30/08/2026 20:45

I didn’t want a reaction, I want to make swimming as easy as possible. I was managing both kids on my own today. Getting them in and out of swimsuits is hard work! Now 4th old can do pants on her own. Many places sell them. I bought a 2 pack of girl bikini bottoms from H&M.

Those h&m pant sets all have a corresponding long sleeve top to buy too...

ChampagneLassie · 30/08/2026 21:12

FourSevenFive · 30/08/2026 21:07

Totally normal to have just the swimming bottoms at that age.

One piece is just an absolutely unneccessary wet fabric (especially when going to the toilet and having to put it back on afterwards).

And, technically, the one piece is "sexualising" small girls the same way as bikini top does - it is an extra fabric covering upper torso which boys don't have to bother with, but girls for some mysterious reasons are supposed to.

Thankyou this is my thinking too

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Catza · 30/08/2026 21:12

TY78910 · 30/08/2026 21:07

I don’t think she sexualised your DD, it draws attention. You bought a 2 pack bikini bottoms from H&M (designed to mix and match with tops) - I know the kind and they will 100% look like something is missing from the top. For that reason you were told to put a complete set on. It’s unnecessary attention drawing for other swimmers. You might think it’s all innocent and great and super convenient for you, but you don’t know how anyone else feels about that and that’s why the rules are there. What is the cut off point at which they say girls top now must go on? When breast tissue is 0.5cm raised and above? No - the rule must therefore apply to all girls to avoid nonsense arguments.

I took DCs swimming last weekend actually and they had a poster with pictures of what swimwear was permitted.

I bet you top dollar there isn't a policy which says pre-pubescent kids need to cover up their chest. The "appropriate attire" means don't go swimming in your denim dungarees. Nothing more.
Maybe your pool is very progressive in that regard but I have never seen a poster in any of the pools I used in the past.
And as to how everyone else fells... where do we draw the line? Maybe I feel offended that the guys in my pool don't shave their body hair. Should we have a policy for that too? Feelings are just feelings. Nobody has died from having them and most adults are capable of dealing with theirs without making it into a H&S issue.

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