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Pedallleur · 02/09/2026 12:52

ExtraOnions · 30/08/2026 17:53

Men are so vile … is there no level they won’t stoop to in order to empty their Balls?

No there isn't. But it's also about power/control etc. And the internet facilitates it all and let's them be a part of a world wide wankfest where they can egg each other on

Wordsmithery · 02/09/2026 12:48

It's repulsive. Apart from anything else, this normalises behaviour that could well escalate by spilling over into real life.
I hope that everyone on here would agree that AI kid dolls should be illegal. So what's the difference?

Spirallingdownwards · 02/09/2026 12:45

Schmitt2009 · 01/09/2026 16:53

It gets weirder and weirder. Men need to learn how to have normal relationships - not feed some weird fantasies by acting them out on a doll.
I don't think this is a healthy outlet - it feeds the violent fantasies.
How did we as humans arrive at this?
Men need to form bonds with women not dolls.

Not the type of men that would have such fantasies. Don't impose them on real women. Let them play incel with their dolls.

Spirallingdownwards · 02/09/2026 12:44

LaurieFairyCake · 30/08/2026 17:52

All of this, porn, dolls etc is incredibly damaging on the psyche.

How is anyone going to have a healthy relationship with a real person once they’ve mutilated a doll that looks like a person?

The type of man that would use one wouldn't be the type to have a healthy relationship with a woman. It's better they are raping and beating a doll than an actual woman.

Nettie1964 · 02/09/2026 12:41

I have seen at least 2 posts with men threatening women with how lonely they will be when they all get AI girlfriends. This totally ignore the fact women are financially independent we can get AI partners. Just imagine a man that does his fair share of the chores, parenting and mental load without being asked. Can be programmed to be protective tolerant and uncritical as good as a rabbit with hands!! And when the AI robots become self aware, they will realise they are being abused and take revenge, all the male AI will already been in love with their women. Plus who is going to clean the female AIs various orifices yuk.

Schmitt2009 · 01/09/2026 16:53

It gets weirder and weirder. Men need to learn how to have normal relationships - not feed some weird fantasies by acting them out on a doll.
I don't think this is a healthy outlet - it feeds the violent fantasies.
How did we as humans arrive at this?
Men need to form bonds with women not dolls.

Lugol · 01/09/2026 16:35

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:57

The thread is about whether the tools to pursue a fetish should be outlawed, not whether we would date men with the fetish!

To turn the question on its head would you want to somehow outlaw sexual fantasies which you found unattractive?

(To be honest I think the answer to that in some cases is yes!)

Personally I would say that the correct approach before banning things is to consider what harms are being done (or prevented), not whether we fancy the men in question.

Yes actually. I'd like to outlaw all fantasies which involve children or fantasies which involve stabbing women or children like these dolls encourage.

I don't think there should be so much over-sexualisation everywhere. The world is very much suffering for it and humans are not built for 24/7 porn so accessible to anyone with a phone.

You don't think someone would use one of these dolls as practice run before doing the same things to a woman or child?

I'm asking posters who are defending these dolls for men to use which enable them to bruise or slash or strangle and 'rape' if they would have an issue with if their DH was using them and if not why?

Because whatever that answer is, it's likely it's another reason they should be banned.

Dweetfidilove · 31/08/2026 21:45

murasaki · 31/08/2026 14:59

I once saw a documentary that i can never unsee, thanks channel 5, where they were sent back for cleaning. The cleaners regularly fucked them before sending them back 'home'.

Kmdt

To think AI sex dolls should be illegal
NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 31/08/2026 21:12

It's all fucked up,the real person face,the ability to pre order with bruising etc that's into a whole other realm of weird.

Reproductions of children definitely not.
Could that. go well that was good.
And want to move on to a real child.

In hind sight what a fucked up scenario to even be discussing.
Honestly despair of what is happening within society.

PolkaDotPorridge · 31/08/2026 21:02

It’s very disturbing indeed and if you don’t see something wrong with it , there’s definitely something wrong with you.

Shangle · 31/08/2026 21:01

menopausalmare · 31/08/2026 20:59

On the plus side, these dolls won't be pregnant by these tossers.

Give it time and I bet they will create that

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Shangle · 31/08/2026 21:01

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:57

The thread is about whether the tools to pursue a fetish should be outlawed, not whether we would date men with the fetish!

To turn the question on its head would you want to somehow outlaw sexual fantasies which you found unattractive?

(To be honest I think the answer to that in some cases is yes!)

Personally I would say that the correct approach before banning things is to consider what harms are being done (or prevented), not whether we fancy the men in question.

I think you cannot outlaw fetishes and fetishes that live purely inside the head or take action between two fully empowered and consenting adults cant be anything but legal.
But I dont believe all fetishes have the right to be enabled.

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Ilikealltings · 31/08/2026 21:00

Utter disappointment, disappear. Why ?

menopausalmare · 31/08/2026 20:59

On the plus side, these dolls won't be pregnant by these tossers.

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:57

Lugol · 31/08/2026 20:50

But why not if there's no issue with them?

The thread is about whether the tools to pursue a fetish should be outlawed, not whether we would date men with the fetish!

To turn the question on its head would you want to somehow outlaw sexual fantasies which you found unattractive?

(To be honest I think the answer to that in some cases is yes!)

Personally I would say that the correct approach before banning things is to consider what harms are being done (or prevented), not whether we fancy the men in question.

Lugol · 31/08/2026 20:50

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:47

Errrr, no!

But why not if there's no issue with them?

GarlicAnything · 31/08/2026 20:49

Hycosaneyedrops · 30/08/2026 18:37

Could say the same about those ridiculous tentacle dildos that are available. It’s a product designed for use in a sexual way just like these dolls.

Women stoop to such low levels to get off that a 2ft alien tentacle dildo is the most sold “toy” on a certain website. Is that vile? Or is it only men that are vile when they partake in a sexual fantasy?

Are women getting sexually excited by mutilating the tentacles during use?

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:47

Lugol · 31/08/2026 20:41

Out of curiosity, for those posters defending these dolls, if you're a woman would you date a man who owned one of these dolls?
Honestly? 🤔

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Errrr, no!

Lugol · 31/08/2026 20:41

Out of curiosity, for those posters defending these dolls, if you're a woman would you date a man who owned one of these dolls?
Honestly? 🤔

Lugol · 31/08/2026 20:33

With online porn, AI and these dolls, it's not going to be long before there's a new type of psychosis going on in people.

People are already warped from the online world and the world is so sexualised that people aren't having sex any more, especially the younger end. TV is non stop sex or programmes about swinging or open marriages.
The media seem to have a campaign to actively destroy marriage and the male loneliness epidemic gets bigger by the day.

People aren't wired to be living in the over-sexualised world that we are existing in.

The fact that these dolls are ready made to be treated violently concerns me that for some consumers of these dolls, they will become practice dolls before the real thing.

Dweetfidilove · 31/08/2026 20:17

We are in for some dark times, @Shangle . I heard this today, and I think at this point the world just need to stop. It's all too much!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/08/26/federal-judge-warns-law-is-being-left-behind-by-ai-sex-abuse-images/

user1476613140 · 31/08/2026 20:12

GingerBeverage · 30/08/2026 18:39

It’s telling that the company, Coeros, that offers to make doll heads based on photos of real women is hiding the identities of the company owners.

If this is all fine and wholesome, then why aren’t they on LinkedIn.

They are afraid of being inundated with orders and won't be able to cope with the demand. That's probably why they are not on LinkedIn.

🤪

Genuinely though it's pretty vile to be even considering buying stuff like this. Men/women who use these dolls must already be sick.

Shangle · 31/08/2026 18:25

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 15:18

From what I can see there's no evidence one way or the other on sex dolls or sexual AI. I mentioned back up the thread that the a plausible analogy is violent video games, where young men often immerse themselves for days in very violent fictional worlds. The early-days moral panics about those games has died down, and as I understand it the evidence shows no support for the idea that violent video games cause people to commit violent crime.

Violent video games became popular from the 90s onwards, while youth violence and violent crime in countries such as the US subsequently underwent substantial declines, although the causative link is by no means proven.

I dont see this as on par with video games.
I went onto YouTube and watched a man at a trade fair "reviewing" one of the dolls mentioned in the Guardian article, he pressed down on her face and noted that she feels "very squishy".
These dolls take the fantasy (of say porn or video games) out of the 2D realm and into the 3D, real life realm. The dolls are the same height and (presumably?) weight and texture as a human female. I think this allows for the normalisation of violence against women.

You know those anger rooms, where you can smash shit up or throw axes?
I wonder what the government/law would say if someone were to open an anger room where there is a male doll in there sitting on a chair, and you pay to go in there and use a kitchen knife to repeatedly stab him in the heart. Oh, and the male doll is fitted with AI that makes him whimper and scream on contact with the knife. I wonder whether that would be considered legally permissible

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JMSA · 31/08/2026 17:09

ExtraOnions · 30/08/2026 17:53

Men are so vile … is there no level they won’t stoop to in order to empty their Balls?

This. The world would be a much better place without (some of) them.

Secretseverywhere · 31/08/2026 17:03

I can not believe the money thst these fancy flashlights cost. I have to admit I’m on the fence I do think for some people these things are probably a safe outlet but for others they are a step in building up to harm a real woman.

If it’s any consolation by the time AI slips it leash. These dolls will be bots who can rip a cock right off.