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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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KnickerlessParsons · 30/08/2026 11:19

ExtraOnions · 30/08/2026 09:51

…yet another thread about migrant crime rates, that’s 3 in 3 days. Almost like a concerted campaign…..

OP the views you are after are all on the other thread (the first was deleted). Nothing new will come from this one, so suggest you stick with that.

I think people are getting to the end of their tether.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:18

Firetreev · 30/08/2026 11:09

If you believe this you're utterly delusional. Facts don't bear this out. Please get offf social media. The algorithms are designed to make you worried, angry, stressed. They feed you false information and have literally been designed to rage bait people because it keeps you coming back and watching/scrolling more. The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.

Algorithms need to be banned!!!

It is literally brainwashing people and it’s scary because common sense seems to go out of the window.

I’m fully in support of social media being banned for under 16s and think it should be restricted for adults too.

Idlewilder · 30/08/2026 11:18

I'm not at all convinced this is true. The Express is just reporting that the Mail has claimed this. There are no details about how the women got burned. There's nothing about it in any other press. Coincidentally, two women were burned in a boat fire in Ontario this week. Could the Mail possibly have got its facts mixed up? Wouldn't be the first time.

smallglassbottle · 30/08/2026 11:16

Firetreev · 30/08/2026 11:09

If you believe this you're utterly delusional. Facts don't bear this out. Please get offf social media. The algorithms are designed to make you worried, angry, stressed. They feed you false information and have literally been designed to rage bait people because it keeps you coming back and watching/scrolling more. The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.

https://ukimmigrationsolicitors.co.uk/how-many-illegal-immigrants-uk/

Number unknown. Only estimates.

How Many Illegal Immigrants Are in the UK

How Many Illegal Immigrants Are in the UK? Latest Estimates

Latest estimates for illegal immigration in the UK, total immigrant numbers, European immigration, voting rights and NHS healthcare access explained.

https://ukimmigrationsolicitors.co.uk/how-many-illegal-immigrants-uk/

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:16

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:06

Why don’t you link the same story from a different media outlet (not daily mail or the sun) and compare them.

I have. Some other sources say there are 97,519 people in taxpayer funded accommodation.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:15

I can't find it now but a poster above blamed the UK leaving the EU for the current situation.

How would that explain the mass immigration and associated higher rape and sex crime statistics in many EU countries? Please explain.

Cover if you will
Germany
Italy
Sweden
Denmark (though they prob aren't on the EU either can't remember)
Norway
France

Thanks.

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Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:12

helpfulperson · 30/08/2026 10:25

You do know the numbers have dropped significantly over the last few years don't you?

It depends what sort of 'immigration' you're talking about. The Tories made plans to restrict legal immigration while still in office. These are now taking effect.

August 2026 Updates: Recent adjustments under HC 259 updated rules on suitability, overstaying definitions, and digital border procedures.
Electronic Travel Authorisation (ETA): Non-visa visitors making short trips up to six months must obtain an ETA via GOV.UK before boarding transport to the UK.
Skilled Worker Salary Thresholds: Minimum salary requirements for sponsored skilled workers previously jumped significantly from £26,200 to £38,700.
Dependant Restrictions: Care workers and certain lower-qualification visa holders face strict bans or limits on bringing immediate family dependants.
Student Visa Controls: Higher education providers face rigorous penalties and sliding-scale bans if international student drop-out or asylum rates spike.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:11

Firetreev · 30/08/2026 11:09

If you believe this you're utterly delusional. Facts don't bear this out. Please get offf social media. The algorithms are designed to make you worried, angry, stressed. They feed you false information and have literally been designed to rage bait people because it keeps you coming back and watching/scrolling more. The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.

'The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.'

No doubt this bit is true. But hopefully you will eventually come to understand that 2 things can be true at the same time.

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:09

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:54

There amount of naivety of people is astounding! They aren’t checked as no one knows who they are. They bin documents like passports as they don’t want to go back.

Naivety or cognitive dissonance? Or stupidity? Or malice and certain motivations to pretend not to see the obvious? Who knows.

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Firetreev · 30/08/2026 11:09

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:27

It’s a bloody joke and they don’t even know the true numbers…. It’s very scary as British will be a minority at this rate….

If you believe this you're utterly delusional. Facts don't bear this out. Please get offf social media. The algorithms are designed to make you worried, angry, stressed. They feed you false information and have literally been designed to rage bait people because it keeps you coming back and watching/scrolling more. The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:07

Smokeywater · 30/08/2026 09:48

Weak governments from Blair onwards

to add - will make me vote Restore or Reform regardless of the idiots running these parties - it's a last hope of someone doing something

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Agree about weak governments. Europe-wide, actually. I suppose it says something about many characters who go into politics.

Look at our most recently elected PM. He (Burnham) dumped Manchester to get an MP role then was put into the PM position by his own party. No one but about 70 people in Ashton in Makerfield (sp?) had any opinion. If that's the sort of people we have in power - is it any surprise they are all self serving atrocious decision makers. No thought for the well being of their 'electorate' (electorate not valid in the case of Burnham since no one in the general electorate actually had a say).

Reform or Restore will be disasterous too. We need the Conservatives back with Kemi in charge. Shame Cleverly has just resigned to go for London mayor in future but c'est la vie.

Kemi Badenoch understands very well the issue of some very different cultures and their negative impact on the UK. so hopefully she will stop this somehow. Unfortunately there's 3 more years of this. How many women and girls will be raped by asylum seekers and immigrants in that time? And that is the governments fault. I guess that's why they won't release the stats.

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smallglassbottle · 30/08/2026 11:07

helpfulperson · 30/08/2026 10:25

You do know the numbers have dropped significantly over the last few years don't you?

And yet the attacks continue.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:06

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:03

So what is it about the Daily Express' reporting that is untrue ?

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Why don’t you link the same story from a different media outlet (not daily mail or the sun) and compare them.

Burningbud1981 · 30/08/2026 11:05

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:27

It’s a bloody joke and they don’t even know the true numbers…. It’s very scary as British will be a minority at this rate….

44 million white British born people will become a minority?

Youaregoing · 30/08/2026 11:04

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:54

There amount of naivety of people is astounding! They aren’t checked as no one knows who they are. They bin documents like passports as they don’t want to go back.

Any evidence?

Burningbud1981 · 30/08/2026 11:04

helpfulperson · 30/08/2026 10:25

You do know the numbers have dropped significantly over the last few years don't you?

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Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:03

PurpleCarpets · 30/08/2026 10:59

Unreasonable for taking news from the Daily Express (especially on immigration) and writing like it.

So what is it about the Daily Express' reporting that is untrue ?

PurpleCarpets · 30/08/2026 10:59

Unreasonable for taking news from the Daily Express (especially on immigration) and writing like it.

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:54

There amount of naivety of people is astounding! They aren’t checked as no one knows who they are. They bin documents like passports as they don’t want to go back.

susiedaisy1912 · 30/08/2026 10:53

Yanbu to be concerned. A lot of people are and were sick of being branded racist the second we express any genuine concern. But you know what, I give up, just let everyone in to the uk, undocumented or otherwise, why bother to be worried about it, the left aren’t, the more the merrier as far as they are concerned.

PiMCA · 30/08/2026 10:52

Can we blame migrants for sunburn now?

It's strange, I've had many discussions about immigration and never once been branded a racist. Wonder why so many people think this is not possible anymore.

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 10:52

@backformoreofthesame people on the boats get checked and documented as they come in - yet somehow you link this to unknown men roaming free ?

So how can they be "documented" when they throw their documents in the drink? They could pretend to be anyone.
And they do "roam fee" because they certainly aren't locked up.

SoThatwasSummer · 30/08/2026 10:51

backformoreofthesame · 30/08/2026 10:01

Illogical

people on the boats get checked and documented as they come in - yet somehow you link this to unknown men roaming free ?

to smash the gangs remove the demand and start paying welfare to all poor people all around the world. Make sure everyone worldwide has food, healthcare and safety and opportunities for betterment

whilst one man is in abject poverty and another living a life of riches based on place of birth you will always have this. If you can’t see this - if you can’t see how this has played out time and again since Neolithic times i pity you

Recently a man who came on a boat was mentally unwell ,rejected by France and made it to us where he attacked a woman with a bottle

It's just that many people arriving don't get picked up and disappear like this fellow did and it's well known now that the IRG is running routes into the UK and Putin is washing their money.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 10:49

I misread and thought the bodies were burned after death.

They didn’t die, they were burned from the sun.

A man was killed by the others, which implies he was acting dangerously - probably due to delirium if they were all burned and dehydrated.

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