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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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Firetreev · 30/08/2026 11:35

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:18

Algorithms need to be banned!!!

It is literally brainwashing people and it’s scary because common sense seems to go out of the window.

I’m fully in support of social media being banned for under 16s and think it should be restricted for adults too.

It's a serious issue. Why do we acknowledge that they're bad for children, but okay for adults? Algorithms need to be exposed and cleaned up massively. They're the reason we all live in echo chambers and some of those echo chambers are horrendously toxic. It convinces people that everyone agrees with them too.

YouGov did a study and found that it is those on the right (Reform and Conservative voters) who are most likely to think that the rest of the country agrees with them, even when facts state otherwise. On some issues Reform voters thought that 90% of the populace agrees with them. People on the left realise that issues are much more nuanced.

Ponoka7 · 30/08/2026 11:35

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:16

I have. Some other sources say there are 97,519 people in taxpayer funded accommodation.

And many more, costing £60k a year in prison. I don't understand the argument that they have to serve their sentence here. The Nigerian government would certainly take them for £20k a year, so would other governments.
There's verified reports of men grabbing life jackets off the women and children and chucking them over. Many from husbands who have lost their wives. There's rapes and sexual assaults on the boats and in asylum centers. If you wouldn't let your 14 year old DD walk unaccompanied, during the day, in certain countries and many MNers won't even holiday in those countries, because of sexual harrasment, the we need to keep the men, from those cultures, contained, on arrival.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:34

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:07

Agree about weak governments. Europe-wide, actually. I suppose it says something about many characters who go into politics.

Look at our most recently elected PM. He (Burnham) dumped Manchester to get an MP role then was put into the PM position by his own party. No one but about 70 people in Ashton in Makerfield (sp?) had any opinion. If that's the sort of people we have in power - is it any surprise they are all self serving atrocious decision makers. No thought for the well being of their 'electorate' (electorate not valid in the case of Burnham since no one in the general electorate actually had a say).

Reform or Restore will be disasterous too. We need the Conservatives back with Kemi in charge. Shame Cleverly has just resigned to go for London mayor in future but c'est la vie.

Kemi Badenoch understands very well the issue of some very different cultures and their negative impact on the UK. so hopefully she will stop this somehow. Unfortunately there's 3 more years of this. How many women and girls will be raped by asylum seekers and immigrants in that time? And that is the governments fault. I guess that's why they won't release the stats.

At least Burnham isn't releasing some prisoners now.

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TemperanceWest · 30/08/2026 11:34

This is the second or third thread you have started on this @CoventryCity , although I think one of them was deleted by MNHQ because it was based on dodgy data from a far right anti-immigration activist.

If you are so concerned shouldn't you be taking real life action? Starting thread after thread on MN isn't going to help change anything.

I am sure the usual suspects will be along soon.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 11:34

What's so bad about France?

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:33

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:31

Why don't you link it ?
You're the one who says it's untrue
What did your last secretary die of ?

'What did your last secretary die of ?'

😆Haven't heard that phrase for years. What did your last slave die of, was the one in my school.

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Youaregoing · 30/08/2026 11:32

LoveItaly · 30/08/2026 11:27

Yes I am, why is that hard to believe? Should I just keep my trap shut and ignore the effects of uncontrolled immigration on our country like the left want, don’t think so.

"The left"

SoThatwasSummer · 30/08/2026 11:32

@ElizaMulvil who would do this ?
My DH wouldn't leave us neither would have any man in my family have left the supposed vulnerable in a perlious country.

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:31

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:28

This says nothing about the story that OP shared.

Can you link the story OP shared from a different media outlet (but obviously not the daily mail or sun etc).

Why don't you link it ?
You're the one who says it's untrue
What did your last secretary die of ?

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:31

LoveItaly · 30/08/2026 10:03

Don’t be so ridiculous. Fortunately the days of the left shutting down any unease and concern about the huge numbers of people, particularly men, who have no desire to integrate and whose cultures are incompatible with Western values are over.

Agreed. And they are struggling with that, and getting even more vicious / unhinged.

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Parker231 · 30/08/2026 11:30

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:15

I can't find it now but a poster above blamed the UK leaving the EU for the current situation.

How would that explain the mass immigration and associated higher rape and sex crime statistics in many EU countries? Please explain.

Cover if you will
Germany
Italy
Sweden
Denmark (though they prob aren't on the EU either can't remember)
Norway
France

Thanks.

What is your suggestion to stop the problem?

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 11:29

ElizaMulvil · 30/08/2026 11:25

People who arrive here 'undocumented' are coming from failed states ie often no birth certificates, no passports eg
Somalia - civil war no central Government control
South Sudan - ongoing internal conflic
Yemen - severe humanitarian crises, prolonged conflict
Syria - years of civil war, destroyed public systems
Democratic Republic of the Congo - internal violence, lack of basic governmental delivery
Afghanistan - years of fighting, civil war, appalling civil rights
etc, etc.
People from such states are desperate. They often have family members who've been killed, are starving, have nowhere to live, fear for their children etc.
What would you do in such situations?

You would try to escape surely but you have elderly parents maybe, or young children. So you send on ahead members of the family who are most likely to survive the perils of a long uncertain journey, risks of starvation, long treks through hostile counties, to seek for help and establish a safe home.

They are leaving because they can't stay and /or are totally at odds with the political regimes they come from. Not because they are fully in support of them!
BTW the offending rates of asylum seekers are similar but a little below those of the rest of the UK.

Asylum seekers are people of resource, want to work. need to work. We should be allowing them to do so not keeping them in poverty for years on end. There are lots of jobs where there are shortages eg Government Skilled Workers shortage list. Other countries allow them to work.
Australia, Canada, Sweden, Portugal - right to work almost immediately.
Germany ditto after 3 months
Belgium ditto 4 months
USA, Netherlands ditto 6 months.

Stay in the first safe country and not risk another dangerous journey and risk drowning in the channel to escape the safety of France

Catza · 30/08/2026 11:28

Idlewilder · 30/08/2026 11:18

I'm not at all convinced this is true. The Express is just reporting that the Mail has claimed this. There are no details about how the women got burned. There's nothing about it in any other press. Coincidentally, two women were burned in a boat fire in Ontario this week. Could the Mail possibly have got its facts mixed up? Wouldn't be the first time.

Not to mention that there are multiple reports of deaths and injuries as a result of French riot police (funded by the UK) trying to stop people boarding the boats with burn injuries specifically cited to be a result of police intervention. But let's gloss over this fact and imagine instead that someone set women on fire while at sea...

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:28

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:26

Just for you 🙂
Around 97,500 people receive government housing support in the UK asylum system, according to Home Office statistics up to March 2026.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2026/how-many-people-are-in-the-uk-asylum-system

Breakdown of Accommodation

  • Total Supported: Around 97,519 individuals receive housing or financial support from the UK government.
  • Dispersal & Regular Housing: More than 69,000 to 73,000 people live in houses, apartments, or houses in multiple occupation (HMOs) managed by private contractors.
  • Hotels: Around 16,000 to 32,000 people remain housed in hotels depending on the specific seasonal data updates, which is down significantly from a peak of over 56,000 in 2023.

This says nothing about the story that OP shared.

Can you link the story OP shared from a different media outlet (but obviously not the daily mail or sun etc).

LoveItaly · 30/08/2026 11:27

Youaregoing · 30/08/2026 10:46

Yes, yes, yes. You're merely a concerned citizen. Absolutely.

Yes I am, why is that hard to believe? Should I just keep my trap shut and ignore the effects of uncontrolled immigration on our country like the left want, don’t think so.

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:26

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:20

Where?
I can’t see the link?

Just for you 🙂
Around 97,500 people receive government housing support in the UK asylum system, according to Home Office statistics up to March 2026.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2026/how-many-people-are-in-the-uk-asylum-system

Breakdown of Accommodation

  • Total Supported: Around 97,519 individuals receive housing or financial support from the UK government.
  • Dispersal & Regular Housing: More than 69,000 to 73,000 people live in houses, apartments, or houses in multiple occupation (HMOs) managed by private contractors.
  • Hotels: Around 16,000 to 32,000 people remain housed in hotels depending on the specific seasonal data updates, which is down significantly from a peak of over 56,000 in 2023.
FrysChocolateCreams · 30/08/2026 11:26

Another anti immigration thread dressed up as faux concern for women. Like you really care.

ElizaMulvil · 30/08/2026 11:25

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 10:45

Your anger needs to be directed at the traffickers who sell these people a dream and make it seem that they can come here and set up a life for their families to safely come over.

Multiple people die on these journeys every time.
Even those who survive are usually severely dehydrated and have infections.
Women and children are less likely to do these journeys because they are the ones most likely to die.

I don’t think anyone should go to any country undocumented and we cannot take in millions of immigrants now we have left the EU and less people can emigrate.

However, it’s not the desperate people risking their lives on boats to provide for their women and children back home that I feel any anger towards.

We cremate bodies in this country every day so I don’t get the faux concern when you’re obviously not that upset about it.

People who arrive here 'undocumented' are coming from failed states ie often no birth certificates, no passports eg
Somalia - civil war no central Government control
South Sudan - ongoing internal conflic
Yemen - severe humanitarian crises, prolonged conflict
Syria - years of civil war, destroyed public systems
Democratic Republic of the Congo - internal violence, lack of basic governmental delivery
Afghanistan - years of fighting, civil war, appalling civil rights
etc, etc.
People from such states are desperate. They often have family members who've been killed, are starving, have nowhere to live, fear for their children etc.
What would you do in such situations?

You would try to escape surely but you have elderly parents maybe, or young children. So you send on ahead members of the family who are most likely to survive the perils of a long uncertain journey, risks of starvation, long treks through hostile counties, to seek for help and establish a safe home.

They are leaving because they can't stay and /or are totally at odds with the political regimes they come from. Not because they are fully in support of them!
BTW the offending rates of asylum seekers are similar but a little below those of the rest of the UK.

Asylum seekers are people of resource, want to work. need to work. We should be allowing them to do so not keeping them in poverty for years on end. There are lots of jobs where there are shortages eg Government Skilled Workers shortage list. Other countries allow them to work.
Australia, Canada, Sweden, Portugal - right to work almost immediately.
Germany ditto after 3 months
Belgium ditto 4 months
USA, Netherlands ditto 6 months.

KatiePricesKnickers · 30/08/2026 11:24

There’s a lot of gaslighting and veiled comments on anyone being concerned about the illegal immigration being racist.

I agree with a poster from the now hidden thread, the sooner the illegals and asylum seekers are distributed into ‘burbs and middle class areas the better.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 11:23

I don't understand why people aren't worried.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 30/08/2026 11:21

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:27

It’s a bloody joke and they don’t even know the true numbers…. It’s very scary as British will be a minority at this rate….

So neither you nor anyone else knows the "true numbers", yet you can still assert British will be a minority "at this rate"?

And Reformists/right-whingers have the temerity to complain when they get called out for their stupidity...

tpwk · 30/08/2026 11:21

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:18

Algorithms need to be banned!!!

It is literally brainwashing people and it’s scary because common sense seems to go out of the window.

I’m fully in support of social media being banned for under 16s and think it should be restricted for adults too.

You should have to pass a basic intelligence test before you can use it

Eyesopenwideawake · 30/08/2026 11:21

Step away from the Daily Mail.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:20

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:16

I have. Some other sources say there are 97,519 people in taxpayer funded accommodation.

Where?
I can’t see the link?