AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

Of course we should be talking about young men from countries with appalling cultural attitudes to women’s and safety in particular coming over to the UK (or anywhere) and being free to move around our communities. It’s foolish not to recognise that there will be issues integrating single young men from places where violence (especially sexual violence) against women is commonplace and culturally acceptable in a way it isn’t here, no matter how much people like to claim that being a woman in Britain is just as bad as being a woman in Afghanistan or Eritrea or Somalia.

Out of interest, which countries have men who don't have appalling attitudes to women.

It's because only Dr's and engineers come and obviously they don't like educated women

Like I said earlier we are basing new stuff on outdated laws so we need a new framework .

We can't be held prisoner by the big business in immigration law

What do you mean?

If you’re trying to have a discussion about this situation then you need to actually write more than just ‘try harder’.

That’s not a discussion.
That’s you not having a valid response and trying to shut me down.

I think this is a really important topic because the current system is not working but it does not help when posters like you start a rage bait thread with fake stories, use the daily express and daily mail as ‘evidence’ and then have no defence when people call you out on it.

Kindly OP, the Guardian is not the left wing version of the Daily Mail. The left wing of the DM would be The Mirror. The Daily Mail and The Mirror are tabloids, and are accessible to those with a reading age 8 years plus. The Guardian is a broadsheet, and broadsheet generally requires a reading age of 12/13 years plus. This might sound snooty, but it's a fact that outlets such as the Daily Mail, The Sun, The Daily Express are aimed at those with lower educational levels. The quality of their journalism is generally much poorer and they have often been found to be on the wrong side of history. The Daily Mail was all for Hitler in the 30s! The Sun and it's smearing of Hillsborough etc.

Most of the tabloids are about preserving the interests of the very wealthy, as are some of the broadsheets. What's in the interest of the very wealthy at the moment is preserving their wealth, we live in the most unequal time in recorded history, and the easiest way to so this is to sow division. Divide and conquer and sadly a lot of people are lapping it up. And as before, I want the small boats to stop and agree that immigration has been to high, especially since Brexit.

Absolutely you are not being unreasonable!! When was the last time we saw boat loads of migrant women and children only coming across?
These are middle age, fighting age men coming across apparently fleeing war yet they must be leaving they're women and children behind.
I fear that with all these undocumented men there are so many over here now and so many unaccounted for something will happen in this country from the inside, from right on our very streets. I fear, like many parents for my children's safety and future.
Not to mention the pulling power this country house. Free NHS care, benefits, social housing, school meals and places..... the list is endless.

Be more aware. Read around a bit. Take it all in. make your own decisions. try not to be blinded by the limited news sources you read.

How ironic.

You tell others to read around a bit and not be blinded by limited news sources but blindly believed a story (from daily express!!!) because you didn’t bother fact checking it first.

I’m sure people do get sunburnt, I’m not sure why the writer would even mention that - I guess it gets more clicks and money in their pocket.

@SoThatwasSummer Burnham has said they are looking at all options in our current crisis where rapists and people charges with man slaughter were going to get let out early

I heard that as well.
I also heard that people are already lobbying their MPs to try and stop this.

You’d have no independent review of proposed legislation? The Supreme Court was deciding whether the government’s proposed scheme complied with existing UK law and the UK’s legal obligations. It didn’t.

@Tiredtaxpayer if Dartmoor Is genuinely empty then it's probably ear marked for our current prison crisis.

Burnham has said they are looking at all options in our current crisis where rapists and people charges with man slaughter were going to get let out early.

It's a bloody crisis in our prisons !

We can't make France take them.
(I am rather surprised they aren't trying harder to stop leaving as those poor people who live on the Northern French coast are sick to death of them and the crimes they commit.)
What we can do is stop all the perks they get when they arrive to discourage them from making the crossing.

How would you differentiate between genuine and false claims? You can only make a claim when in the UK, not from outside the UK in any other country.

They should not be able to make any claim by arriving by boat and foisting themselves on us

Screw the supreme court. Parliament is sovereign and passed legislation deeming Rwanda safe. We could have still gone through and sent them there.

They would still need to be fed etc though and they’re not allowed to work - which is exactly what’s happening why.

What would be the difference?

You’d lock them up without them being able to make their claim?

Gently OP, you are not going to get much support on here if you keep linking threads from media sources such as daily mail and daily express.

You shouldn’t even be clicking on these ridiculous websites, let alone reading the crap they come out with.

It seems the first one you linked has absolutely no truth to it at all (although I’m sure people do get sunburned).

Perhaps linking from reputable media sources will encourage people to see your POV better.

UK Supreme Court didn’t consider Rwanda’s system reliable enough to protect genuine asylum seekers.

By all the means mentioned .
A navy man was interviewed on the radio and said it's perfectly possible to collect the people in the boats and get them back to France.

What pressure have we ever put on France over this ?

We just give them more money and of course reduce pull factors here.

Not my choice as to placement but Dartmoor Prison would do well after a revamp, as I understand that it's empty.

How would you make France take them and stop them trying to get to the UK again?

I doubt they would own up to where they came from. Where would you set up and fund these camps?