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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/08/2026 17:15

You should be. I certainly am. Ireland has changed a lot too, the social media drive to ensure that people don’t speak out, if you do, you’re an underclass racist.
I have said it before, i have neighbours and friends who were once immigrants, they’re not afraid to say that it is out of control, the men don’t have good intentions.

If you told me a boat was arriving with women from Sudan, the Congo, Afghanistan, if be there with blankets, food and support.

I don’t care if that makes me two faced.I saw two horrendous news articles where the offending person got a measly prison sentences, both attacks on teenage girls, one attempted kidnapping and the other knock out by a stranger.

A parent will kill soon. I felt an unfamiliar rage watching both incidents.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 17:12

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:11

700m for 0 effect is definitely not better than nothing.

It wasn’t zero effect, voluntary movement is the cheapest way to do it and many moved to ROI.

But still, you voted for what the op linked yes?

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 17:12

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:07

"Do you prefer what we have?"

Well we voted as a country to "take back control". The Rwanda policy was an ill thought out farce and as yet no political party has a coherent policy on how this " control " works...

WE never actually got a proper Brexit due to "Maybe May" not knowing what she wanted. That's why David Davis resigned as Brexit Secretary because "she used to be decisive but then she wasn't so sure". Plus hubby had some banking interests in Brussels in banking I understand.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 17:12

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 17:05

I’ve only read the first page and it’s more of the usual…

I don’t think @CoventryCity is the problem or enemy here!

As for the bot comment…honestly?!

Then perhaps you should read on.

The article they posted is almost entirely fabricated.

The French did rescue people from a boat and confirmed that some did have sunburn.
They also confirmed that someone died of a heart attack.

They have not mentioned a weapon or stabbing of any kind, let alone confirmed it.

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:11

700m for 0 effect is definitely not better than nothing.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 17:09

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:07

"Do you prefer what we have?"

Well we voted as a country to "take back control". The Rwanda policy was an ill thought out farce and as yet no political party has a coherent policy on how this " control " works...

It would have been better than nothing

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 17:08

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:07

"Do you prefer what we have?"

Well we voted as a country to "take back control". The Rwanda policy was an ill thought out farce and as yet no political party has a coherent policy on how this " control " works...

You also voted for Labour. So you’ve got chaos on boats and crimes that are awful.

If you think that’s good then ok up to you, many won’t.

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 17:08

JenniferBooth · 30/08/2026 16:33

Not aimed at you personally @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius This is what ive posted elsewhere i just cant be bothered to redact bits

Also MN "why cant brits do the LIVE IN fruit picking jobs We have to have people come from other countries to do the jobs Brits wont do!
Posted this on another thread
"a. Fruit picking veg picking etc a lot of which is LIVE IN work. If you rent social housing you have to actually fucking well live there. You are not allowed to live away from home for the length of time these employers want you to. If you want that you will need to give SH tenants more rights! But that would also mean giving them more rights to leave their home for other reasons Up for that are we? Dont bother cos i know the answer to that already.
b. Gas safety checks fire door checks electric checks Surveys My tenancy agreement says i have to be home for these and no i cant get a friend or neighbour to do it for me.
c. the hatred there is for SH tenants ensures that some busybody would probably report the flat as abandoned if a tenant were to risk their tenancy by taking this job.
d. i have mentioned SH tenants because they will be the most likely group expected to take these jobs yet their hands are tied and they cant And even if they wont perhaps they want a life after the working day (just like home owners have You know the ones who arent expected to do these jobs instead of sharing a berth with a stranger"
I SWEAR TO GOD IM GOING TO GET THIS FUCKING LAMINATED. isnt it funny how the social housing haters froth like fuck when tenants break a tenancy agreement for any other reason but want them to break their tenancy agreements for bloody fruit picking and repair and fix stuff that their tenancy agreement tells them not to touch STINKING HYPOCRISY

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The problem with fruit picking, cauli cutting, tattie lifting and sprout pulling is that it's seasonal and also can be labour intensive.
And yes, you live-in in caravans.(Unless you live in the area and can travel to the site.

Potatoes - June/Oct These are lifted by machine but then collected and inspected by hand
Caulis - same time frame
Sprouts - Aug/Oct then Nov/Jan
Sept/April - Leeks
I can't write about fruit-picking because I've never lived in an area that specialised in this.

The pea harvesting process is completely mechanical

The abolition of Zero Hours Contracts stopped a lot of UK people doing this work.

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:07

"Do you prefer what we have?"

Well we voted as a country to "take back control". The Rwanda policy was an ill thought out farce and as yet no political party has a coherent policy on how this " control " works...

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 17:05

I’ve only read the first page and it’s more of the usual…

I don’t think @CoventryCity is the problem or enemy here!

As for the bot comment…honestly?!

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 17:04

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 17:00

Are you on social media with algorithms? BlueSky?

The only social media I have is mumsnet.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 17:03

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:01

"And then look at countries which use deterrents and see how they work."

What like the UK spending 700m ( direct and indirect costs) and deporting no one whilst illegal entries soared?

Do you prefer what we have?

Labour scrapped it and even the threat sent people to ROI voluntarily,

If we keep getting chaos on crossings and more crimes people won’t be oh ok as you are.

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 17:02

I’ve only just found this!

Walkden · 30/08/2026 17:01

"And then look at countries which use deterrents and see how they work."

What like the UK spending 700m ( direct and indirect costs) and deporting no one whilst illegal entries soared?

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 17:00

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 16:58

People literally just talk out of their arse.

I don’t know anyone with half a brain cell who is in support of the internet algorithms because as you say they literally restrict what you see and narrow your mindset.

How can you possibly have a valid opinion on something when you are literally told what to believe and have no other information.

Are you on social media with algorithms? BlueSky?

JenniferBooth · 30/08/2026 16:59

SoThatwasSummer · 30/08/2026 16:43

I know some tenants are woefully bad but let's face it mould and poor housing esp social housing is a massive issue in the UK
.we can't build for rain and damp and windows open etc .
So I don't think it's fair to blame all bad housing on poor tenants

three words ..................cavity wall insulation

a. not all homes suit it........the gap is there for a reason.
b. when it comes to social housing both HAs and contractors knew they were onto a winner HAs got funding Contractors got ££££££
they could pump cavity wall insulation into homes whether they were suitable for it or not knowing full well they could get away with blaming any ensuing mould on tenants knowing that would be accepted by the public because of the attitudes to SH tenants in the UK
I know a local tenant who had no problem with his bungalow until cavity wall insulation. Now its like a furnace in the summer and starting to get mould HA told him he had to have it done

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 16:58

cardibach · 30/08/2026 16:50

@smallglassbottle you call it authoritarian that ‘the left’ is ‘wanting to restrict algorithms for adults’
I don’t understand. Do you know what an algorithm is? It’s a restriction. It means you get shown more and more of the stuff you already clicked on. Banning the use of algorithms would give you more information from more varied sources, not less. You would have access to a broader range of opinions. How is that authoritarian?

People literally just talk out of their arse.

I don’t know anyone with half a brain cell who is in support of the internet algorithms because as you say they literally restrict what you see and narrow your mindset.

How can you possibly have a valid opinion on something when you are literally told what to believe and have no other information.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 16:54

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 16:47

French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.

Where is your proof of this?

TemperanceWest · 30/08/2026 16:52

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 15:52

If it's in bad state then that's because the tenants trash it.

Jeez. More utter bollocks. If it is the tenants trashing the housing stock, why is the government passing laws to force social housing landlords to make their properties fit for human habitation? To ensure children don't die?

Anti-Irish
Anti-social housing tenants

What else can we add to the list?

cardibach · 30/08/2026 16:50

@smallglassbottle you call it authoritarian that ‘the left’ is ‘wanting to restrict algorithms for adults’
I don’t understand. Do you know what an algorithm is? It’s a restriction. It means you get shown more and more of the stuff you already clicked on. Banning the use of algorithms would give you more information from more varied sources, not less. You would have access to a broader range of opinions. How is that authoritarian?

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 16:47

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 16:46

Yes people die all of the time on these crossings and in migrant camps, the conditions are awful. That is common knowledge.

Not sure what that’s got to do with your original point though.

It’s not algorithms doing that.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 16:47

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 16:40

Not the sun causes sun burn.

Weapons cause stab wounds but the French (who removed and treated them) have not said anywhere that anyone was stabbed.
They have said that someone died from a heart attack.

Algorithms are not responsible for any of the above.

What algorithms do do, is brainwash people and make them look stupid by asking questions such as whether they cause sunburn or stab wounds.

French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.

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ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 16:46

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 16:44

Yes it’s all hunky dory in the migrant camps and on boats as they cross. Except people seem to be dying.

Yes people die all of the time on these crossings and in migrant camps, the conditions are awful. That is common knowledge.

Not sure what that’s got to do with your original point though.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 16:44

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 16:40

Not the sun causes sun burn.

Weapons cause stab wounds but the French (who removed and treated them) have not said anywhere that anyone was stabbed.
They have said that someone died from a heart attack.

Algorithms are not responsible for any of the above.

What algorithms do do, is brainwash people and make them look stupid by asking questions such as whether they cause sunburn or stab wounds.

Yes it’s all hunky dory in the migrant camps and on boats as they cross. Except people seem to be dying.

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