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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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putupwhatever · 30/08/2026 20:23

pointythings · 30/08/2026 20:15

Of course it's upsetting. But overall things have improved, and therefore the timing of yet another of these threads is suspicious. No, we aren't doomed. However much you and yours might wish it to be otherwise.

Overall things haven't improved for the 3 villages where those moved out the hotels will be sent to big asylum camps. Communities being used as collateral damage so the government can say they are closing asylum hotels.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 20:22

Popstarrrrr · 30/08/2026 19:37

My heart goes out to those women and girls in Rotherham. And yes, there was an outcry but as someone who has worked with vulnerable young people for some decades now, I can tell there has been numerous Rotherhams. In most of the situations I've come across victimology was more relevant than perpetrator demographics. Because the young people didn't fit the picture perfect victim stereotype their experiences were dismissed and perpetrators were free to harm. There's a crap load to fix, always has been and always will be until focus goes on the right things.

85% 90% of violent crime towards women is perpetrated by someone known to the victim. As women we are rightly attuned to stranger danger but statistically strangers only account for a very small number of VAWG perpetrators. If anything, and assuming these men are as dangerous as your average man, it is Muslim women who have these Muslim men in their circles who are at far greater risk than you or I.

Ssshhh!!

They only care about victims when the perpetrators have brown skin.

They don’t care that the victims were failed long before the Asian grooming gangs got to them, they don’t care that a large percentage of these girls had already been the victims of sexual abuse at the hands of other men.

They don’t care about the statistics and factual data of how if you’re raped or sexually assaulted it is 90% likely to be a person you already know and 90% likely in a place that you feel safe.

If you dare talk about the dangers of non brown men, you must not care about women or girls and want to be raped or your daughter to be raped.

They don’t care about truths.
That’s why the thread was starting from a report based on false information.
The French authorities have not said anything about anyone being stabbed or having stab wounds, so the entire thread is redundant.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 20:19

pointythings · 30/08/2026 20:15

Of course it's upsetting. But overall things have improved, and therefore the timing of yet another of these threads is suspicious. No, we aren't doomed. However much you and yours might wish it to be otherwise.

‘You and yours’ just not staunchly pro Labour then.

The timing of the thread is because what happened is recent. Ik pro Labour want to only hear their policies are having press release effects but it’s not the case.

The boats are rammed, dangerous and becoming more so.

pointythings · 30/08/2026 20:15

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 20:04

What is linked in the op doesn’t bother you at all?

Of course it's upsetting. But overall things have improved, and therefore the timing of yet another of these threads is suspicious. No, we aren't doomed. However much you and yours might wish it to be otherwise.

Smokeywater · 30/08/2026 20:12

Just listened to a talk on YouTube by David Starkey which explains the problem in the U.K. Blair changed the laws to give everyone judicial rights so regardless whether you’re a new immigrant or a lifelong Brit you have the same rights - so you cannot just chuck out illegals (hence lawyers earning a fortune on their behalf) and we can do nothing about it.

Also SEN rights and PIP rights are legal rights so whether it bankrupts the council or the country is irrelevant the law says that people which a tribunal says have these rights the payments etc must be honoured.

Whether net zero gives us the highest electricity costs or not is irrelevant - achieving net zero is enshrined in law so we must achieve it by 2050 ( enacted by T May).

Why HS2 cost billions - protection of nature is enshrined in law now in England so legally Natural England (or whatever they’re called) could demand a £100 million pound bat tunnel for HS2 and that £millions is spent protecting fish from the Sizewell C outflow.

So while this is the case F all can be done , common sense cannot prevail unless the laws are revoked - but with our screaming media and pathetic parliament that is unlikely so immigrants will continue to come and there is nothing anyone can do as they’d be breaking the law

I can’t believe no one has explained this before
My post might not be phrased well but I hope you get the gist

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 20:04

pointythings · 30/08/2026 19:58

The week that the data comes out showing substantial drops in boat crossings, the asylum backlog and hotel use....

We get this. Most of us aren't stupid, OP.

What is linked in the op doesn’t bother you at all?

KatiePricesKnickers · 30/08/2026 20:01

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 18:56

Also, there is literally NO BIGGER PICTURE than Europe being changed beyond all recognition.

Do you want gated communities like in South Africa?

Because this is where we’re headed.

I’m afraid you are right. The country’s standards and culture won’t be leveled up, it will get leveled down.
Gated communities will be the future, for those who can afford it.
It’s some way off, but will be in a young person’s lifetime. We will end up like South America, with bars on every window of our houses.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 19:59

pointythings · 30/08/2026 19:58

The week that the data comes out showing substantial drops in boat crossings, the asylum backlog and hotel use....

We get this. Most of us aren't stupid, OP.

What?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 19:59

The Rape Gang Inquiry Report · June 2026

250,000+ victims. 149 districts.

Decades of failure.

https://rapeganginquiry.co.uk/map

149 Districts. The Truth, Mapped.

Every district named in the Rape Gang Inquiry Report, plotted with case detail and source page references.

https://rapeganginquiry.co.uk/map

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pointythings · 30/08/2026 19:58

The week that the data comes out showing substantial drops in boat crossings, the asylum backlog and hotel use....

We get this. Most of us aren't stupid, OP.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 19:57

Popstarrrrr · 30/08/2026 19:37

My heart goes out to those women and girls in Rotherham. And yes, there was an outcry but as someone who has worked with vulnerable young people for some decades now, I can tell there has been numerous Rotherhams. In most of the situations I've come across victimology was more relevant than perpetrator demographics. Because the young people didn't fit the picture perfect victim stereotype their experiences were dismissed and perpetrators were free to harm. There's a crap load to fix, always has been and always will be until focus goes on the right things.

85% 90% of violent crime towards women is perpetrated by someone known to the victim. As women we are rightly attuned to stranger danger but statistically strangers only account for a very small number of VAWG perpetrators. If anything, and assuming these men are as dangerous as your average man, it is Muslim women who have these Muslim men in their circles who are at far greater risk than you or I.

Those Pakistani muslim men in the grooming gangs seemed to be more interested in raping young white girls.

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 19:54

Cuter

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TemperanceWest · 30/08/2026 19:54

These threads do feel like Groundhog Day.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 19:52

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 19:49

..

Yep. Feels just like it. 👍

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 19:49

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 19:47

Not this - again.

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LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 19:47

Popstarrrrr · 30/08/2026 19:37

My heart goes out to those women and girls in Rotherham. And yes, there was an outcry but as someone who has worked with vulnerable young people for some decades now, I can tell there has been numerous Rotherhams. In most of the situations I've come across victimology was more relevant than perpetrator demographics. Because the young people didn't fit the picture perfect victim stereotype their experiences were dismissed and perpetrators were free to harm. There's a crap load to fix, always has been and always will be until focus goes on the right things.

85% 90% of violent crime towards women is perpetrated by someone known to the victim. As women we are rightly attuned to stranger danger but statistically strangers only account for a very small number of VAWG perpetrators. If anything, and assuming these men are as dangerous as your average man, it is Muslim women who have these Muslim men in their circles who are at far greater risk than you or I.

Not this - again.

Popstarrrrr · 30/08/2026 19:37

SoThatwasSummer · 30/08/2026 15:39

Yes but we are trying aent we look at the out cry over Rotherham etc and the other cars where women have been killed or abused
But how many more can we take when frankly we do not need too ? We are putting ourselves at even more risk into an already over loaded system

My heart goes out to those women and girls in Rotherham. And yes, there was an outcry but as someone who has worked with vulnerable young people for some decades now, I can tell there has been numerous Rotherhams. In most of the situations I've come across victimology was more relevant than perpetrator demographics. Because the young people didn't fit the picture perfect victim stereotype their experiences were dismissed and perpetrators were free to harm. There's a crap load to fix, always has been and always will be until focus goes on the right things.

85% 90% of violent crime towards women is perpetrated by someone known to the victim. As women we are rightly attuned to stranger danger but statistically strangers only account for a very small number of VAWG perpetrators. If anything, and assuming these men are as dangerous as your average man, it is Muslim women who have these Muslim men in their circles who are at far greater risk than you or I.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 19:31

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 18:29

Well, I can only say (after a couple of glasses of Sauvignon Blanc) that there is a lot of truly decent people, not just in this country, but also on this site.

And we’re not all knuckle dragging racists, but educated women who are simply concerned.

We don't call everyone names either, who we don't agree with. I do like a nice chilled sauvignon wine 🍸

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 19:09

quantumbutterfly · 30/08/2026 19:04

https://radonreductionsystems.co.uk/radon-mitigation-cornwall/

Maybe the landlord (prince willy) could make some repairs.

They have been doing repairs for the past 2 years at least.

The MOJ is paying millions every year for its upkeep and it was only a couple of months ago did Prince William (his people) say they could stop.

The prisons are massively overcrowded and they’re trying to get it back up to scratch but the trouble is now it has been deemed unsafe they are going to have a massive lawsuit on their hands if they reopen it too soon (many prisoners and staff are already getting legal support).
As radon is naturally occurring then it’s never going to be zero.

They need to get it reopen asap to deal with the prisoner crisis but I can’t see it happening anytime soon.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 19:04

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 18:53

Yes, it’s the Reform and Restore politicians who are out and about, sexually abusing, raping and murdering people.

Just to reiterate before I’m accused of being a bot; I would vote for neither party (but I respect and can understand people who do).

I mean ffs.

Erm yes it is?!

Multiple reform politicians have been accused of some form of sexual abuse.

They also have a higher number of male supporters due to their often misogynistic views.

We also know that many of the supporters have had convictions of abuse in some form.

Say what you want about immigration but reform/restore are definitely not parties that care about women and girls rights.

I’d like a change in the immigration system without parties like that being in charge as that would be awful for us all.

putupwhatever · 30/08/2026 19:01

thepariscrimefiles · 30/08/2026 18:40

A lot of Afghan men worked with British forces, acting as interpretors and putting themselves and their families in harm's way. Now that the allied forces have all left and the Taliban are back in charge, they are in great danger. No wonder they risk their lives to get to a country that actually owes them a debt of gratitude.

That's actually a completely separate scheme. The Afghan Resettlement Scheme or something similar. One of the few groups who can apply for asylum from abroad. Quite rightly too.

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 18:56

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 18:43

Who is the ‘they’ in this post? The women discussing the issue below?

Also, there is literally NO BIGGER PICTURE than Europe being changed beyond all recognition.

Do you want gated communities like in South Africa?

Because this is where we’re headed.

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 18:53

Sirzy · 30/08/2026 18:34

Yet they are so worried about their daughters they vote for the likes of reform and restore who have such a horrendous track record and who have policy proposals that will make things so much worse for woman.

it does worry me that so many are hyper focused on this issue and can’t see the bigger picture

Yes, it’s the Reform and Restore politicians who are out and about, sexually abusing, raping and murdering people.

Just to reiterate before I’m accused of being a bot; I would vote for neither party (but I respect and can understand people who do).

I mean ffs.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 18:48

thepariscrimefiles · 30/08/2026 18:40

A lot of Afghan men worked with British forces, acting as interpretors and putting themselves and their families in harm's way. Now that the allied forces have all left and the Taliban are back in charge, they are in great danger. No wonder they risk their lives to get to a country that actually owes them a debt of gratitude.

There was one who helped the US forces and then he went and shot the guardsmen