AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

Just listened to a talk on YouTube by David Starkey which explains the problem in the U.K. Blair changed the laws to give everyone judicial rights so regardless whether you’re a new immigrant or a lifelong Brit you have the same rights - so you cannot just chuck out illegals (hence lawyers earning a fortune on their behalf) and we can do nothing about it.

Also SEN rights and PIP rights are legal rights so whether it bankrupts the council or the country is irrelevant the law says that people which a tribunal says have these rights the payments etc must be honoured.

Whether net zero gives us the highest electricity costs or not is irrelevant - achieving net zero is enshrined in law so we must achieve it by 2050 ( enacted by T May).

Why HS2 cost billions - protection of nature is enshrined in law now in England so legally Natural England (or whatever they’re called) could demand a £100 million pound bat tunnel for HS2 and that £millions is spent protecting fish from the Sizewell C outflow.

So while this is the case F all can be done , common sense cannot prevail unless the laws are revoked - but with our screaming media and pathetic parliament that is unlikely so immigrants will continue to come and there is nothing anyone can do as they’d be breaking the law

I can’t believe no one has explained this before
My post might not be phrased well but I hope you get the gist

Since the crisis began many EU nations foolishly gave these migrants residency. Now in the decade since many have become EU citizens. Had we not left they would have had free right to move here and we would have had no way to stop them.

I’m not really sure why grooming gangs are being mentioned tbh.

You started a thread about illegal immigration and to my knowledge none of the perpetrators were illegal immigrants.

The grooming gangs are a completely different issue that need addressing but not on a thread about people coming over in boats.

And rightly so!

They deserve a lot more. From everyone who is supposed to have their best interests at heart.

It would have been a net outflow.

I'd rather see them detained, deported and worst case sent straight back to their home nation

How do they get here safely, though? I don't think launching little children across the sea in rubber dinghies is very advisable.

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This sort of nonsense is depressing. Brexit was simply leaving the EU. We left. It’s shit because it was always going to be shit, there was no deal which wouldn’t be shit, not because it wasn’t ‘proper’ Brexit. It’s just a way for people who were duped by Vote Leave’s shit to dodge accountability.

It would have been a net outflow.

I'd rather see them detained, deported and worst case sent straight back to their home nation

Let's say only women and childen and only !

If who gets hurt or dies?

Sorry you were talking about women and girls and now I’m not sure if you’re talking about the immigrants or W&G still.

Of course they do in that they are impacted by it.

If they get hurt or die then yes it is impacting them.

Your last line isn’t true btw.

I agree ! So why add more.

It was nothing. It was for a tiny number and we agreed to take refugees who had arrived in Rwanda (the most vulnerable ones) in return.

Let's say only women and childen and only !

You can do as you like, but algorithms just feed back what people want. If it’s a left voting Corbynite who only wants to see Palestine info they’ll get it.

The people getting on the boats has absolutely nothing to do with the system.

The traffickers will tell them that it’s ok etc and how to get around any system.

America does not have the same system that we do but Mexican people will still climb the fence.

There can be no system in place that can physically stop people coming.
It’s just not possible.

The only thing we can control is what happens once they get here.

WE never actually got a proper Brexit due to "Maybe May" not knowing what she wanted. That's why David Davis resigned as Brexit Secretary because "she used to be decisive but then she wasn't so sure". Plus hubby had some banking interests in Brussels in banking I understand.

My heart goes out to those women and girls in Rotherham. And yes, there was an outcry but as someone who has worked with vulnerable young people for some decades now, I can tell there has been numerous Rotherhams. In most of the situations I've come across victimology was more relevant than perpetrator demographics. Because the young people didn't fit the picture perfect victim stereotype their experiences were dismissed and perpetrators were free to harm. There's a crap load to fix, always has been and always will be until focus goes on the right things.

85% 90% of violent crime towards women is perpetrated by someone known to the victim. As women we are rightly attuned to stranger danger but statistically strangers only account for a very small number of VAWG perpetrators. If anything, and assuming these men are as dangerous as your average man, it is Muslim women who have these Muslim men in their circles who are at far greater risk than you or I.

It’s all part of the same system clearly. The deaths and injuries on the way are because of the chaotic system.

So if domestic white British people commit horrific SA we should allow men in from even worse nations?

Stop these men coming in you at least don't actively add to the problem? You at least reduce some stranger attacks (because I assume no women would get romantically involved with these men.)