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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:35

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:31

If that’s how you interpret it it’s your call. The op didn’t use the line you did.

Why would OP start a thread about poor women getting sunburnt - people get sunburnt all of the time, it’s not enough to start a thread over it.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:35

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:31

If that’s how you interpret it it’s your call. The op didn’t use the line you did.

Yes she did. With slightly different punctuation because I didn’t remember it quite as accurately as this C&P ”Those poor women. Burned on the boat.”

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:34

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:30

It’s still more dangerous for the reasons said. Ik this thread isn’t liked by Labour supporters who prefer not to see anything, but it will get harder and more chaotic for the people on those boats.

I’m glad you are showing concern for the poor people in the boats. It’s heartening. However, the crossings have to stop because, as you say, they are chaotic and dangerous for the vulnerable people on them. It’s unrealistic that they would stop overnight, so the first step is to reduce numbers and make it more difficult. It is regrettable that the criminals involved in trafficking are so careless of safety, but still - fewer people are at risk which surely you see as a good thing?

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:31

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:30

Agreed. Both the post and the headline imply it. I wonder what the purpose of that was, in both cases?

If that’s how you interpret it it’s your call. The op didn’t use the line you did.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:30

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:28

No she didn’t. Not more than the headline states.

Agreed. Both the post and the headline imply it. I wonder what the purpose of that was, in both cases?

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:30

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:28

Fewer people are coming not just fewer boats, so fewer people are in danger. If the same number were coming from the same places you wouldn’t like that either.

It’s still more dangerous for the reasons said. Ik this thread isn’t liked by Labour supporters who prefer not to see anything, but it will get harder and more chaotic for the people on those boats.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:29

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:27

Then please don't lie about me. Also a personal attack.

I didn’t lie about you. I said you implied they’d been set alight. Which you did. Several posters responded thinking that. Your phrasing was either intended to create that impression or was very, very clumsy. Either way your words implied that.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 21:28

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:26

If only they'd take away the carrots.

Doctors and engineers take the carrots, but they come to the country the legal way. We don't mind those sort of carrots.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 21:28

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:04

But this is the big issue - the countries don’t take them back or we have no idea where they came from.

So what do we do with them?

They are going to come regardless.

We’ve had people travelling to other countries by boat since time began, it’s literally how the world was discovered (Columbus, Darwin, pirates etc).

Our main issue is what happens when they get here.

There are ways to deal with this. The USA deals with it very well. Till the time we sort out the deportations detain them and don't let them into the community.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:28

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:25

I didn’t say you had. I said you implied it. Which you did. ‘Those poor women, burned on a boat’. There’s no plausible deniability there.
Edit: calling me a liar is a personal attack. You might want to rethink that.

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No she didn’t. Not more than the headline states.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:28

I suppose people are trying to get this thread deleted now..

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cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:28

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:25

Labour’s policies are making it more dangerous. More people per dinghy, crammed on and traveling from sites that are further away.

Capped, vetted routes will only happen if the current international law doesn’t apply.

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Fewer people are coming not just fewer boats, so fewer people are in danger. If the same number were coming from the same places you wouldn’t like that either.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:27

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:25

I didn’t say you had. I said you implied it. Which you did. ‘Those poor women, burned on a boat’. There’s no plausible deniability there.
Edit: calling me a liar is a personal attack. You might want to rethink that.

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Then please don't lie about me. Also a personal attack.

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ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:27

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:26

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:25

Labour’s policies are making it more dangerous. More people per dinghy, crammed on and traveling from sites that are further away.

Capped, vetted routes will only happen if the current international law doesn’t apply.

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If only they'd take away the carrots.

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EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:25

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:24

Yes, I know that. And I challenge you to find anything from Labour which doesn’t recognise that’s the case either. It’s why NOBODY is in favour of the boat crossings. Not Labour, not ‘lefties’ not anyone. Those on the left also want to stop the boats, but not by declaring every asylum seeking man a violent rapist and suggesting we don’t take any because we aren’t the first safe country. Safe routes, proper vetting, international agreements about who takes how many. That’s the only way. And it needs doing soon before climate change massively 8ncrease the displaced people in the world.

Labour’s policies are making it more dangerous. More people per dinghy, crammed on and traveling from sites that are further away.

Capped, vetted routes will only happen if the current international law doesn’t apply.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:25

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I didn’t say you had. I said you implied it. Which you did. ‘Those poor women, burned on a boat’. There’s no plausible deniability there.
Edit: calling me a liar is a personal attack. You might want to rethink that.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:24

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:20

Women and young people are dying on that crossing. You’d have to be looking at very limited sanitised Labour led press to not know that.

Yes, I know that. And I challenge you to find anything from Labour which doesn’t recognise that’s the case either. It’s why NOBODY is in favour of the boat crossings. Not Labour, not ‘lefties’ not anyone. Those on the left also want to stop the boats, but not by declaring every asylum seeking man a violent rapist and suggesting we don’t take any because we aren’t the first safe country. Safe routes, proper vetting, international agreements about who takes how many. That’s the only way. And it needs doing soon before climate change massively 8ncrease the displaced people in the world.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 21:23

TemperanceWest · 30/08/2026 21:19

Not really. Many of the men shouting at asylum seeker hotels etc. have been found to have DV convictions. So there is a clear link.

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They aren't being smuggled into the country are they? Zero relevance, except for whataboutery purposes.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:22

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ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:22

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 21:12

Domestic violence is a completely different subject, but that doesn't stop umpteen posters mentioning it.

Surely if we’re discussing the dangers on men, then domestic violence is very much relevant.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:20

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:18

The number of asylum seekers is decreasing. The amount of other immigration is decreasing. Emigration is also decreasing. You are getting stick because you implied that women had been set alight on a boat when that wasn’t true. You’ve yet to show evidence of the Stabbings too - it wasn’t in the original report. You aren’t discussing issues you are trying to stir up bad feelings

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Women and young people are dying on that crossing. You’d have to be looking at very limited sanitised Labour led press to not know that.

TemperanceWest · 30/08/2026 21:19

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 21:12

Domestic violence is a completely different subject, but that doesn't stop umpteen posters mentioning it.

Not really. Many of the men shouting at asylum seeker hotels etc. have been found to have DV convictions. So there is a clear link.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:18

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:15

Yes. No surprises. Some people do not like these issues being discussed. I don't mind. Water off a ducks back and a bit like in the TWAW hoo ha, people who tried to tell us men can be women, were wrong, and those who always confirmed the realities of biological sex, were right. It's the same here isn't it. The mass immigration of unchecked undocumented males from incompatible cultures, is wrong. So it's easy enough to debate with the folk who keep trying to tell us it's not a problem.

The number of asylum seekers is decreasing. The amount of other immigration is decreasing. Emigration is also decreasing. You are getting stick because you implied that women had been set alight on a boat when that wasn’t true. You’ve yet to show evidence of the Stabbings too - it wasn’t in the original report. You aren’t discussing issues you are trying to stir up bad feelings

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:15

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 21:06

😆 🤣 I don't know why you're getting so much stick either. It's starting to get a bit suspicious though with how this thread has ruffled a few feathers - bit like last night's deleted thread 🤔

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Yes. No surprises. Some people do not like these issues being discussed. I don't mind. Water off a ducks back and a bit like in the TWAW hoo ha, people who tried to tell us men can be women, were wrong, and those who always confirmed the realities of biological sex, were right. It's the same here isn't it. The mass immigration of unchecked undocumented males from incompatible cultures, is wrong. So it's easy enough to debate with the folk who keep trying to tell us it's not a problem.

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