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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:48

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:17

I gave you a credible source. You jumped in with unfounded accusations too fast.

The French report states that criminal investigations are being opened in regards to the stabbing and death at sea. Not the burns on the women’s legs which indicates those were accidental injuries. The OP did imply someone had burned the women in an attack.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:46

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:34

See the French article. You’ve been very quick on the fake news, people are less intelligent line but it’s reported in the French press.

Most likely their burnt legs are due to accidental injury. Friction burns from sitting astride the side of the rubber dingy or burns from sitting too close to the motor engine. I doubt anyone was using fire on the boat.

Tiredtaxpayer · 31/08/2026 03:03

Firstbornunicorn · 30/08/2026 15:26

Sorry, the Irish didn't make good house guests because we were all drunks!? I was just at the Ulster-American folk museum yesterday, and I think you could be doing with a walk around it to see what the Irish were actually facing in those days.

I am aware of the working conditions of Irish migrant laborers, traditionally known as "navvies". They played a massive role in constructing Liverpool's infrastructure, including the Mersey Tunnels in the 1930's. While historical records focus heavily on their immense contributions to these engineering feats, the connection between heavy drinking and manual laborers of this era is rooted in the harsh socio-economic realities of 19th and early 20th-century construction life,
The "Lump" and Pub Recruitment: Many contractors hired laborers using the cash-in-hand "lump" system. Wages were often distributed inside local public houses (pubs) on Friday nights, directly tying the workplace to alcohol consumption.
Many young Irish men emigrated alone from rural counties. Pubs provided a social community and a centre for Irish culture

Tiredtaxpayer · 31/08/2026 02:47

Catza · 30/08/2026 13:10

I assure you people from India and Carribean were also not asked if they wanted British people to colonise their country.

British interest in India was started as a trading initiative set up by the East India Company in 1600. The inhabitants were quite happy to have us then because there was money in it for them.
Vasco de Gama opened a sea trading route for Portugal in 1498. Goa was a Portugese colony from 1510
Throughout the 17th and 18th centuries, the Dutch and French—along with smaller presences from Denmark—competed for trade and territory, though the French eventually lost power to the British.

The West Indies was first colonised by Spain in 1492 and followed by Britain, France, the Dutch Republic, and Denmark.
Maybe if they have a beef with colonization they can spread the complaints around a bit.

I get fed up with people blaming UK for being soley responsible for Colonialism

Tiredtaxpayer · 31/08/2026 02:21

Catza · 30/08/2026 12:28

Comments like that make me laugh. Do you want to stop pull factor, then stop advertising what they are getting online. I see again and again comments across all social media akin "they come over and get everything for free - a house, a car, benefits". Whether or not it is true, it's irrelevant. You just put the biggest advertisement into the universe and every man from across the globe can see it and think "oh, I get all that, do I? Better get on that boat".
You want it to stop? Then start thinking about what you share online.

It's all over tiktok, put out by the people traffickers so what I say doesn't make any difference.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:17

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 23:12

I would absolutely apologise when I read the article for myself and it proves her right.

As I said, I do not read things from the daily mail or daily express as they are known to lie.

OP refused to post any credible sources and I will not believe anything until it comes from a credible source.

I gave you a credible source. You jumped in with unfounded accusations too fast.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:14

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 23:13

Not to mention calling 77 per cent of voters gullible and unintelligent.

Yes that too.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 23:13

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:04

Phone but you can read the post below? It’s the text in English which says stabbing.

Maybe a sorry for the liar accusation to the op.

Not to mention calling 77 per cent of voters gullible and unintelligent.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 23:12

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:04

Phone but you can read the post below? It’s the text in English which says stabbing.

Maybe a sorry for the liar accusation to the op.

I would absolutely apologise when I read the article for myself and it proves her right.

As I said, I do not read things from the daily mail or daily express as they are known to lie.

OP refused to post any credible sources and I will not believe anything until it comes from a credible source.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:04

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:51

Are you on a phone or desktop?

Phone but you can read the post below? It’s the text in English which says stabbing.

Maybe a sorry for the liar accusation to the op.

AndyKitten · 30/08/2026 22:55

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:51

Are you on a phone or desktop?

The article mentions someone hurt by a bladed article, two women with burns on their legs and another person who was unwell.

Someone might want to apologise to OP.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:51

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:44

It’s easy I just pressed translate. I’ve copied the relevant text anyway. It details the injuries.

Are you on a phone or desktop?

Windsurf · 30/08/2026 22:45

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:24

What situation are ‘women’ defending?

Edit: because it seems a stretch to say these ‘women’ are the worst people in the world (worse than Putin? Worse than rapists? Child sex offenders?) for challenging a false report in an OP. If you mean defending rapists and murderers, nobody is. Some of us are saying that it’s wrong to call all asylum seekers (or all Muslim men - some go that far) rapists and murderers. I don’t think that’s a bad thing either.

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Saying "it's wrong to say all" is the most pathetic limp weak statement on the planet.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:44

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:43

I don’t know how to translate it?

There have been no reports so far of anyone being stabbed to death or women being burned with fire.

We know that someone died of a heart attack and we know that women were treated for sunburn.
We know that there are injuries. There always is on these boats

It’s easy I just pressed translate. I’ve copied the relevant text anyway. It details the injuries.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:43

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:34

See the French article. You’ve been very quick on the fake news, people are less intelligent line but it’s reported in the French press.

I don’t know how to translate it?

There have been no reports so far of anyone being stabbed to death or women being burned with fire.

We know that someone died of a heart attack and we know that women were treated for sunburn.
We know that there are injuries. There always is on these boats

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:39

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:28

If people wanted it to be pulled they would have reported it and got it removed.

This should stay up because it shows just how easily people can believe fake news.

OP knew exactly what she was doing when she said about the poor women being burned.

It shows how easily people declare fake news without checking.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 22:38

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:18

There are (and always will be) criminal elements in any group. I tend to avoid demonising the whole group as a result.

But if one group has extremely higher crime rates?

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:35

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:30

Illegal crossings aren't fake news. Dangerous crossings aren't fake news.

I completely agree, which is why these discussions are so important.

But you cannot have a discussion based on lies.
We need to stick to the facts.

The thread is rage bait though because OP linked articles to grooming gangs and a child abuse/murder case - neither of which have anything to do with illegal/dangerous crossings.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:34

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:28

If people wanted it to be pulled they would have reported it and got it removed.

This should stay up because it shows just how easily people can believe fake news.

OP knew exactly what she was doing when she said about the poor women being burned.

See the French article. You’ve been very quick on the fake news, people are less intelligent line but it’s reported in the French press.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:33

Here is a French article detailing the injuries

https://www.nordlittoral.fr/296035/article/2026-08-28/crise-migratoire-au-moins-un-migrant-mort-apres-une-tentative-de-traversee-au

Three people were injured and treated by emergency services: two women with burns to their legs and a man who had fallen ill. All three were transported to the hospital in Calais.

A fourth victim, a man, was stabbed. He was reportedly airlifted to the hospital in Boulogne-sur-Mer. In total, between August 26 and 28, 2026, 81 people were rescued by the CROSS Gris-Nez maritime rescue coordination center for three attempted crossings: Fécamp, Wissant, and Gravelines.

The victim who died at sea in circumstances that are still unknown is believed to be a 34-year-old Afghan man.

Crise migratoire : un migrant mort et des blessés après une tentative de traversée au large de Calais

Une opération de sauvetage a été menée au large de Calais vendredi, après qu’un migrant a été retrouvé mort lors d’une traversée en embarcation de fortune. 72 personnes ont été prises en charge.

https://www.nordlittoral.fr/296035/article/2026-08-28/crise-migratoire-au-moins-un-migrant-mort-apres-une-tentative-de-traversee-au

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 22:33

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:22

Pei0le have a right to claim asylum where they choose to. It’s never been can be denied, but they have the right to claim it. Shipping people to Rwanda with no return possible is, in my view, immoral in view of that. Maybe we have a different moral standard.

It can be denied if the nation isn't a signatory's to the refugee convent. Not every nation is.

India has deported Rohingyan refugees back to Myanmar. Just doesn't let them stay and sends them back.

If we don't want them and Rwanda does, what's the issue?

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:33

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:30

Which is?
Seems to be saying these men are all dangerous because there was a stabbing and burning. If there wasn’t, the premise looks a bit shaky.

Is she being unreasonable to be concerned about undocumented men coming to the UK? That's the thread title.

AndyKitten · 30/08/2026 22:31

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:26

And we don’t know what the injuries were or what caused the death. So you don’t know there were stabbings and burnings, do you? Yet you’ve defended those fabrications.

One dead, three injured, one of them severely and airlifted to hospital in Boulogne Sur Mer, two treated in Calais.

Death as a result of cardiac arrest.

According to Prefecture Maritime.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:30

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:28

If people wanted it to be pulled they would have reported it and got it removed.

This should stay up because it shows just how easily people can believe fake news.

OP knew exactly what she was doing when she said about the poor women being burned.

Illegal crossings aren't fake news. Dangerous crossings aren't fake news.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:30

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:27

Challenge away but the crux of the thread remains the same.

Which is?
Seems to be saying these men are all dangerous because there was a stabbing and burning. If there wasn’t, the premise looks a bit shaky.