Irish Passports?

But that's still through your citizenship. It's because you've registered and are entitled.

I was useless at Maths at school, but that sounds like algebra to me. 🤣

(No wonder so many people reckon they’ll swerve around the whole shebang and infuriate advisors by asking for special consideration on account of their love of U2/ Father Ted/ armed rebellion while dressed all in black, etc.
After all, Minister, they are named Shawne!)

Give em a test on Caoilfhionn Dunne (How To Get To Heaven, etc)

No, this is what surprised me, if the grandchild was put on the register before the birth of the great grandchild then the combination of grandchild and great grandparent is taken into account as the only one born in Ireland.

Correct; you haven't acquired your spouse's Irish citizenship in a very long time. (That creeps up on a surprising number of couples who have simply taken it as read, and who’ve no intention of living here in order to qualify)

The 3-year residency in Ireland requirement is also subject to phenomenally slow processing of claims, meaning you end up pretty much fulfilling the more common 5-year residency required for naturalisation of other nationalities.
I’ve read many experts advise the latter route if you are in no particular administrative need of citizenship living here (eg if you are British). A bit less faff, it seems!

Ah, ‘smart lad wanted’, as Myles Na gCopaleen used to say.
I thought it seemed unnecessarily complicated! 🙏🏻

Don't confuse the issue even more! Nobody is entitled to citizenship through a great grandparent. If they are looking for citizenship it would be though grandparents being Irish citizens. So your grandkids could become Irish through your citizenship, not your parent.

That’s not correct. If you’re born abroad, and neither parent was born in Ireland, and didn’t have an Irish passport when you were born but a grandparent was born in Ireland, then you have to go in the register of foreign births.
If you’re born abroad to a parent who was born in Ireland then you’re automatically an Irish citizen.

I know lots of Caoimhe’s (Keeva). It’s an Ulster/ northern pronunciation. Can also of course be pronounced Qwee- va.

My dad’s parents both came from Ireland/NI. My dad was born in England and never claimed his Irish citizenship even though he spent a huge amount of time in NI when growing up.

My brother and I both claimed Irish citizenship via our grandparents, through the foreign births register which we were registered on as adults at the beginning of our process to become Irish citizens.

Back in the day you could get Irish citizenship through marriage - no residency requirements, you had to be married for 3 years. Think it was phased out in the early 2000s.

I have an Irish and British passport. Both parents Irish and have visited more times than I care to remember.

@Goatsarebest I don't think I said anything misleading there. I clearly said my children are entitled to Irish citizenship through their Irish father. They were born in England of an Irish father who was born in Ireland, and an English mother. There was no need for them to be added to foreign births register, it was just a case of applying for their Irish passports as they qualify automatically as Irish citizens through their father. They would've been entitled to Irish passports wherever their place of birth. I, on the other hand, as the spouse of an Irish person, need to prove three years' residency in Ireland.

Cool, I didn't actually realise that as long as registered before both that a great grandchild could be registered, that's good to know for my grandchildren that may or may not come!

Me. My parents are Irish and I have gone back more times that I can remember. I feel at home there.

I've got an Irish passport. It was when I was watching the World Cup in 1990 that I learned that I was eligible for an Irish passport - like many of the team members, I have a grandmother who was born in Dublin when Ireland was part of the UK. My gran had the posh Irish accent - like Wilfred Brambell's real life accent.

In 1990 my gran was very much alive and well. The nuance with registering a foreign birth is if either or both of your parent or grandparent is still alive, you need their permission.

It's not written into law - there's nothing saying "You must obtain their consent" - It's a case of "over my dead body" - quite literally- if either of them don't want to help with your registration, you have to wait until they are dead because death certificates are public documents, unlike passports which are the property of the issuing government. You can't just seize your Dad's or your Gran's passport off them.

My Gran died in 1995 and I am sure she would have had no objection to me having an Irish passport - and my Dad certainly didn't mind - it just took rather a long time to get round to it because I had to send notarised copies of my UK passport, Dad's UK passport along with originals of my birth certificate, Dad's birth certificate, Gran's birth certificate, Dad's marriage certificate, Gran's marriage certificate and Gran's death certificate.

I've got all the documents in case any siblings want to register their foreign births.

We met at my Dad's solicitor's office in Lancaster in July 2019 - he's a friend of the family. When I mentioned that I'd been aware of my eligibility since Italia '90, my Dad's lawyer recalled that unlike me, one of the players - Tony Cascarino - didn't actually have an Irish granny but rather an Italian one. Ireland/ Italy - close enough!

That match I watched back then was in June 1990 - roughly 29 years and two weeks before the meeting in Lancaster. The age gap between me and my Dad is 29 years and two weeks - I thought that was an amazing coincidence.

My Dad was utterly bemused to learn that he has been an Irish citizen all his life without realising it - he can apply directly for a passport without the hoops I went through.

My sole visit to Ireland was back in 2007 for work - on my British passport of course.

I've seen first hand what a difference it makes taking the train to Paris with an Irish passport.

Yes, it’s more about residency than marriage though, marriage only reduces the normal residency required to claim citizenship by naturalisation.
You don’t get Irish citizenship by marrying an Irish person and living outside Ireland, I’m wondering why the poster was magically able to. She seemed to suggest she had been on trips rather than living there for an extended period of time.

This is right. Marriage just gives a faster route to naturalisation. You'd still need to live on the island or Ireland (could include NI) for at least 3 out of the past 5 years before applying, including 1 full year of continuous residence immediately before the application.

Yeah I did check the regulations, and I was on the FBR when they were born. I applied when I was pregnant and the Registry Office expedited it for me. They actually couldn't have been more helpful.

I thought passport through marriage was only possible if you also had residency for 3 years? Otherwise my English DH would have applied a long time ago as he’s still not over Brexit (& sorely misses his EU passport).

You really don’t! My DCs all born in England have got Irish passports through me being Irish. Applied with proof of my birth & marriage certificate (to show name change) & other general forms of ID. No need for them to be registered anywhere.

I'm in the process of applying for mine and am very close to my family there, always have been. We go back for the annual cemetery mass and again for another visit through the year.

always gain half a stone and a full heart 😂

Irish passport through marriage?

I assumed the plan was more about an Irish woman and her British husband wanting to retire to somewhere sunny (sorry Ireland, my adopted, damp and never-visited homeland!)

You're right, any British citizen has pretty much the same rights in Ireland as an Irish citizen through the Common-Travel Area. The attraction of an Irish passport is more to do with access to other EU member states.

I have an Irish passport through marriage. Our children all have Irish passports as well as Australian (through me). I have been to Ireland many many times. My in-laws are there as well as a huge extended family that my kids are an active part of.