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AIBU to think drunken behaviour is ruining outdoor gigs?

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Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 12:24

Went to see Pulp last night at Wythenshawe Gardens. They were absolutely fantastic (as was Self Esteem supporting). I'm a Pulp fan and was really excited. I realise it's outdoor and people are going to have a few beverages and have a chat and a good time but behaviour at outdoor gigs seems.ti be getting worse. It seemed to be full of absolutely hammered middle aged men and women, who clearly only knew 2 sings, couldn't stand up and were just shouting at each other during any song that wasn't Common People or Disco 2000. And they've paid £80 plus £10 a can for the privilege. The group right in front of me (it was too late to move at that point ) had their backs to the stage most of the gig, were shouting at each constantly and kept falling into me. What i don't understand is why they paid to get in...why didn't they just go to the pub or a club. Surely they're not going to remember anything.

One lady decided to hold her phone aloft with the torch on pointed at the back of the crowd to be a beacon to get her friends to the same spot but blinding everyone behind. Someone took offense and asked her to stop as it was in his eyeline and blocking his view and she just had a go at him and started shining her torch in his eyes. Just pure entitlement (this was during the performance).

I realise I'm getting older and less tolerant but it's definitely been getting worse. Genuinely do not see the point of spending a lot money to get hammered and not remember a thing to see bands you're not even fans of (and annoying everyone else).

Anyway rant over. Pulp and Jarvis were incredible as ever (what a front man) but I may stick to indoor gigs from now on.

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tinyspiny · 29/08/2026 15:26

I’m not sure it’s just an issue with outdoor gigs , frankly the behaviour at most large concerts I’ve been to in the last couple of years indoors and out has deteriorated to such an extent that I’m getting increasingly picky about where I will go . Far too many people who just do whatever they please with no regard for anybody else .

Changingplace · 29/08/2026 15:22

Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 15:16

We had a really good view and it was really crowded and the gig had started so made no sense to move away.

You can still move, that’s the beauty of an outdoor gig.

I was there and nobody was being annoying near us so there’s really no need to be a martyr and stay in one place if the people around you are annoying.

Changingplace · 29/08/2026 15:20

DollopOfFun · 29/08/2026 13:00

I was also there last night, what a show!

If it helps balance a little, we saw nothing like that, no aggro, no disengagement, nothing. Everyone around us was dancing and enjoying the gig. We were quite far back though, so maybe that helped.

Getting out of the car park was a fricking nightmare though.

Same, I was there, had a great night and didn’t see any problems whatsoever, if I’d been near people who were being annoying I’d just move, that’s the beauty of an outdoor gig rather than a seated venue.

Luckily I live really close so didn’t need to deal with the carpark!

Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 15:16

Ablondiebutagoody · 29/08/2026 15:00

What do you mean it was "too late to move"? That doesn't make sense?

We had a really good view and it was really crowded and the gig had started so made no sense to move away.

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AltitudeCheck · 29/08/2026 15:11

The difference between last year at the Co-op arena and last night at Wythenshawe park was staggering. I loved every moment last year. This time though there were definitely pockets of antisocial arseholes who had no interest in the music and spoilt it for those who really wanted to see the show.

As others said, people were barging into people (not dancing, just drunk), shouting conversations between themselves throughout the gig and sloshing beer everywhere. Pulp were fantastic as always though👌

Mumofyellows · 29/08/2026 15:04

I went to see Taylor Swift and there was a group by us who just had shouted conversation the whole way through knew about 3 songs and were constantly just taking photos of each other and necking cider, it was so annoying, we had an amazing view luckily and were right by the stage so still had an amazing time but dirk g Champagne Problems they just screamed and laughed together so I could barely hear it, entitled little pricks!

Doseofreality · 29/08/2026 15:03

Oasis last year was ridiculous. Middle aged men coked off their tits, group photo shoots with their backs to the stage and then the worst one of all, people videoing themselves performing along to the songs.
There should be a law against the number of sad pathetic wankers allowed in any given area at any one time.

Ablondiebutagoody · 29/08/2026 15:00

What do you mean it was "too late to move"? That doesn't make sense?

Alconleigh · 29/08/2026 14:58

pinkglove84 · 29/08/2026 14:48

I've seen Pulp countless times over the last 30 years and last night was very different to all the others. And not in a good way.

Massive groups of pissed-up obnoxious people in their 40s and 50s ignoring the band, talking to their mates, filming the couple of songs they knew and ignoring the rest.

It was a completely different vibe to the last Pulp gig I was at (tramlines last year) when yes people were drinking but were having a good time dancing, singing, being part of something.

Last night didn't feel like a Pulp gig at all; it felt like the lairy blokes who would usually be found down Spoons (or at the oasis reunion?!?) had got lost in Wythenshawe Park.

Yes you expect people to have a few (several) drinks at gigs. And more than just booze! But you also expect them to want to enjoy the music. Last night that wasn't happening... it felt threatening tbh and I haven't had that at a gig before. In fact I haven't been in a crowd that miserable and detached from the music before.

Clearly a fan from the user name! I don’t feel as negatively about it as you, but I do agree that there seemed to be an oddly high number of people who weren’t really fans there. Whether it’s because that gig has been part of a series at the park I don’t know. We saw them in Finsbury Park a few years ago and that felt different, even though also a massive outdoors gig. I’ve concluded I’m too old for outdoor gigs. I’m really short, which doesn’t help matters. And can’t bear constantly getting jostled by people carrying their massive rounds back to their mates. Who they have lost. I’m a pretty big drinker but I just don’t see the attraction at gigs. I don’t want to miss the band by queuing for the bar or the toilet. Or spend a fortune on drinks I am quite likely to spill everywhere.

Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 14:55

@pinkglove84 just realised your username!

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Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 14:54

pinkglove84 · 29/08/2026 14:48

I've seen Pulp countless times over the last 30 years and last night was very different to all the others. And not in a good way.

Massive groups of pissed-up obnoxious people in their 40s and 50s ignoring the band, talking to their mates, filming the couple of songs they knew and ignoring the rest.

It was a completely different vibe to the last Pulp gig I was at (tramlines last year) when yes people were drinking but were having a good time dancing, singing, being part of something.

Last night didn't feel like a Pulp gig at all; it felt like the lairy blokes who would usually be found down Spoons (or at the oasis reunion?!?) had got lost in Wythenshawe Park.

Yes you expect people to have a few (several) drinks at gigs. And more than just booze! But you also expect them to want to enjoy the music. Last night that wasn't happening... it felt threatening tbh and I haven't had that at a gig before. In fact I haven't been in a crowd that miserable and detached from the music before.

That's exactly how I felt. Crowd felt flat at one point I felt as if I was duetting with Jarvis on Razzmatazz as no one else was singing, and sunrise which is usually euphoric felt so flat (I was giving it my best). Shame as Pulp were on top form. Think I'll go abroad if they tour again. Nearly went to Berlin this year. Wish I had.

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Pistachiocake · 29/08/2026 14:53

As you say they only knew 2 songs, you could talk to them about the message of some of Pulp's other songs.but it's quite normal for this age group.
I doubt the Help the Aged song will be as relevant for our kids as for those of us in our 40s!

cheesegrated · 29/08/2026 14:53

This is the same in our area although 90% are drunk teens

pinkglove84 · 29/08/2026 14:48

I've seen Pulp countless times over the last 30 years and last night was very different to all the others. And not in a good way.

Massive groups of pissed-up obnoxious people in their 40s and 50s ignoring the band, talking to their mates, filming the couple of songs they knew and ignoring the rest.

It was a completely different vibe to the last Pulp gig I was at (tramlines last year) when yes people were drinking but were having a good time dancing, singing, being part of something.

Last night didn't feel like a Pulp gig at all; it felt like the lairy blokes who would usually be found down Spoons (or at the oasis reunion?!?) had got lost in Wythenshawe Park.

Yes you expect people to have a few (several) drinks at gigs. And more than just booze! But you also expect them to want to enjoy the music. Last night that wasn't happening... it felt threatening tbh and I haven't had that at a gig before. In fact I haven't been in a crowd that miserable and detached from the music before.

Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 14:40

Alconleigh · 29/08/2026 14:27

Pulp crowds aren’t generally lairy, from my experience. It’s the band of the nerdy Mishapes, after all. Oasis piss throwers we aren’t. But there do always seem to be a few dullards who only really know Common People and fling themselves about to that. Certainly we got a bit of that near us last night. Phones are a general irritation. People taking shit grainy footage they will never rewatch rather than just actually being in the moment. But a fabulous performance, as ever.

Exactly! That said Jarvis was magnificent as were the rest if the band and the bonus of Richard Hawley. Just still can't get my head round people spending upwards of £100 on a night and not being interested in the band and getting hammered. Just go to a pub or a club
Much cheaper and quicker to get home.

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teaandtoastwithmarmite · 29/08/2026 14:30

Also I went to a Biffy Clyro outdoor gig. My DH was pretty drunk but not doing anything wrong. I went to see them indoors in Jan as well and was seated and during one of their quieter more emotional and older songs ( so not recognisable) and these people were laughing and chatting behind me

Alconleigh · 29/08/2026 14:27

BrummieKara · 29/08/2026 13:07

You were watching the band who wrote "Sorted for e's and wizz", who were at the forefront of Britpop, for crying out loud! Of course it's going to be lairy! That was the whole culture! You are being ridiculous.

Pulp crowds aren’t generally lairy, from my experience. It’s the band of the nerdy Mishapes, after all. Oasis piss throwers we aren’t. But there do always seem to be a few dullards who only really know Common People and fling themselves about to that. Certainly we got a bit of that near us last night. Phones are a general irritation. People taking shit grainy footage they will never rewatch rather than just actually being in the moment. But a fabulous performance, as ever.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 29/08/2026 14:27

I went to see Teddy swims and it was £200 for the ticket. One group of people were stood in a circle chatting through my view of the stage. I had to move in the end because they were spoiling the gig for me. Then my brother in law put dd on his shoulders and this woman had a massive go at him!

Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 14:26

Melarus · 29/08/2026 14:21

Surprised by this, because I went to an all-dayer in Finsbury park this summer (Wolf Alice etc) and was struck by how few people were drunk or off their faces. At the end, we all filed our like little sober soldiers. In the 90s or 00s it would have been so much messier.

I wasn't sure if it was because of Gen Z being more abstemious generally, or because the promoter's policies made it quite hard to get a drink (expensive, not near the stage and they opened all cans for you at the bar)

I think it's the middle aged people getting off their faces. Wolf Alice will be a lot younger than Pulp. Was deffo people in their 40s and 50s getting lashed and buying as many cans as they could at the bar. My kids were with us amd they don't drink at concerts as they want to remember the experience and enjoy it.

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Mapletreelane · 29/08/2026 14:23

Imdunfer · 29/08/2026 14:16

It's not only outdoors, it's happening indoors at any music event I go to at a local theatre as well. I've stopped booking their shows.

Don't get me started on theatre etiquette. I went to see a matinee of Oliver and the extended family and friends in the two rows in front of me (about 16 people) slurped and ate through pre packed salad amd sandwiches (not during the interval) , sweets, and then left all the rubbish on the floor when they left. Grim and disgusting.

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Melarus · 29/08/2026 14:21

Surprised by this, because I went to an all-dayer in Finsbury park this summer (Wolf Alice etc) and was struck by how few people were drunk or off their faces. At the end, we all filed our like little sober soldiers. In the 90s or 00s it would have been so much messier.

I wasn't sure if it was because of Gen Z being more abstemious generally, or because the promoter's policies made it quite hard to get a drink (expensive, not near the stage and they opened all cans for you at the bar)

BG2015 · 29/08/2026 14:20

This happens all the time these days. Groups of friends who don't even watch the band and just talk to each other, one of them goes off for 20 minutes to get more beer, missing loads of songs. Totally bizarre.

Me and DP just don't get it. Gigs are so expensive these days.

Dont get me started on the entitled people who push in front of you and stand there after you've been in position for an hour waiting.

Imdunfer · 29/08/2026 14:16

It's not only outdoors, it's happening indoors at any music event I go to at a local theatre as well. I've stopped booking their shows.

Crazycockerpoo · 29/08/2026 14:15

We went to Lewis Capaldi recently and a group of ladies were off their tits and necking bottles of wine and the one was quite aggressive and loud. It is quite intimidating. Luckily by the time he come on stage the crowd had moved forward and they had got lost in it , probably asleep 🤣

I think it's worse on a hot summers day, plus they open the gates hours before the artists come on, what else is there to do, which is what they encourage you to do, spend shit loads of money on food and drink and the queues are so long some people buy more drinks than they normally would so they don't have to keep getting through the crowds.

  • at Lewis Capaldi they had people going round with what I can only describe as the Waterboy back packs on , selling drinks to the crowd.
Mixed in with crowds of people, getting in each other's way, bumping into each other, blocking each other's view, all the anti social behaviour everyone hates all put together in a close area, it's going to kick off.
mishgs · 29/08/2026 14:13

Because there’s too many people who can’t behave in public - it’s all about them enjoying themselves & to hell with everyone else.

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