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Oh Andy, Andy, Andy.. just Why?

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WallowingInMud · 28/08/2026 13:59

[I categorically refuse to put the word ‘lighthearted’ in the title to indicate that Im not actually traumatised. Also because saying this post is lighthearted is just as facile as holding a little bus or building a Lego haus to illustrate my point.
See below.]

I realise that I don’t need to follow Mr B on instagram but I do and I’m feeling deeply patronised:

First a little toy bus (talking about buses innit), then a Lego house (building more Lego houses to amuse the homeless), a bit of cosplay by dressing up as a Sainsbury’s man of the people (to show that you can work at Sainsbury's and a sexy uniform is thrown in) and now… throwing a cowboy hat at the camera/phone to illustrate that cowboy builders are …cowboys.

Make it stop.

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EnglishRose26 · 29/08/2026 09:31

Oliveoy · 28/08/2026 18:24

You'd never heard of him?! He was in the cabinet almost 20 years ago, stood for Labour leadership twice, was heavily involved in Hillsborough and was Manchester Mayor for a decade. It's hard to believe that anybody could be so disengaged from current affairs, but it perfectly demonstrates exactly why an in your face social media strategy is needed.

He doesn't interest me at all.

andthat · 29/08/2026 09:29

WallowingInMud · 28/08/2026 15:11

Honestly I get the reasoning. But that’s what annoys me so much - just because you are not politically savvy doesn’t mean you need your leader playing with a little bus to convey that the message is about buses.

I want him to do well. I’m just not sure that building little Lego houses or cosplaying being a shop worker or a bit part in High Noon is way to do it.

inthink you’re giving a lot of people way more credit than they deserve…

Hes finding ways to connect…I for one welcome that.

Oliveoy · 29/08/2026 09:01

Worrall20 · 28/08/2026 23:45

The rest is politics Alastair Cambell really? Dr David Kelly! No it is not working well at all. Most people are watching and thinking what the heck? Think he needs to seriously get rid of his social media team as they are making him a laughing stock. Christ we have bigger problems than him with his Lego houses and the bloody buses? why no mention of the Russian Ambassador being recalled by Russian? No mention of the economic state of the country? This guy is a complete joke! Politics Students will be studying Burnham, only to see his mistakes, Health Secretary, Staffordshire Scandal, also privatisation of parts of the NHS. Manchester, homeless up, ULEZ 104 mill wasted, GMP in special measures, grooming gangs. Most 18-34 year olds think he is a joke.

That's strange, because the comments on his socials are overwhelmingly positive. Oh don't tell me, they're bots 🤣

dustabsorber · 29/08/2026 00:19

2 number ten doors Andy

ItsGooodToTalk · 29/08/2026 00:19

Everything is not awesome!

Visiblyabove25 · 29/08/2026 00:12

Worrall20 · 29/08/2026 00:06

Manchester has been Labour since the 1970s maybe earlier, so no surprise there, although there are a lot of us in Greater Manchester who despair of his policies. Also depends which poll you are looking at? Have to disagree that he is the most popular politician in the country? Burnham Bounce will be over very quickly if he doesn’t get the economy kick started. Which his Lego houses and buses will not do.

The poll tracker I linked to shows all major polls - currently, he leads every single one of them.

Of course not everyone in Greater Manchester approved of every policy, but I think the days of assuming Greater Manchester will always vote Labour are long gone - look at how well Reform did in the local elections. There’s no way Andy Burnham’s majorities would have stayed so strong if he wasn’t extremely well liked across Greater Manchester - he won big in every single borough, even those that went on to vote Reform in the locals.

But I do totally agree with you that he won’t have this much good will and enthusiasm behind him forever - and I think you’re right, the economy is what it’ll come down to in the end. We’ll have to wait until the budget in October before we really know.

Worrall20 · 29/08/2026 00:06

Visiblyabove25 · 28/08/2026 23:53

You absolutely don’t need to like Andy Burnham. You can absolutely think his social
media is a joke. But the idea that “most” people think that is simply not true. Right now, he’s the most popular political leader in the country by quite some margin: https://www.pollcheck.co.uk/favourability-ratings

And as for his record in Greater Manchester, he won 3x elections with a majority of over 60% each time, because most people in Manchester liked what he was doing for their region.

Manchester has been Labour since the 1970s maybe earlier, so no surprise there, although there are a lot of us in Greater Manchester who despair of his policies. Also depends which poll you are looking at? Have to disagree that he is the most popular politician in the country? Burnham Bounce will be over very quickly if he doesn’t get the economy kick started. Which his Lego houses and buses will not do.

Visiblyabove25 · 28/08/2026 23:57

EasternStandard · 28/08/2026 23:50

Let’s see how it pans out. It could easily go from jazz hands fab to empty gestures no thanks from the public.

I actually completely agree with this - from a comms point of view, it will be really interesting to see how he and his team adapt to the shift in tone from a summer of fun announcements, to the serious stuff once parliament is sitting again.

My hope - as someone who wants to see Andy Burnham do well - is that they pull it off, but I do think there are plenty of potential pitfalls.

Beepen · 28/08/2026 23:56

Visiblyabove25 · 28/08/2026 23:53

You absolutely don’t need to like Andy Burnham. You can absolutely think his social
media is a joke. But the idea that “most” people think that is simply not true. Right now, he’s the most popular political leader in the country by quite some margin: https://www.pollcheck.co.uk/favourability-ratings

And as for his record in Greater Manchester, he won 3x elections with a majority of over 60% each time, because most people in Manchester liked what he was doing for their region.

I'm cautiously optimistic. He clearly has good potential. But as a southerner he has some work to do to win me over. It's not all lobster and caviar down here. The insane house prices mean you can have a decent salary and still no quality of life

Visiblyabove25 · 28/08/2026 23:53

Worrall20 · 28/08/2026 23:45

The rest is politics Alastair Cambell really? Dr David Kelly! No it is not working well at all. Most people are watching and thinking what the heck? Think he needs to seriously get rid of his social media team as they are making him a laughing stock. Christ we have bigger problems than him with his Lego houses and the bloody buses? why no mention of the Russian Ambassador being recalled by Russian? No mention of the economic state of the country? This guy is a complete joke! Politics Students will be studying Burnham, only to see his mistakes, Health Secretary, Staffordshire Scandal, also privatisation of parts of the NHS. Manchester, homeless up, ULEZ 104 mill wasted, GMP in special measures, grooming gangs. Most 18-34 year olds think he is a joke.

You absolutely don’t need to like Andy Burnham. You can absolutely think his social
media is a joke. But the idea that “most” people think that is simply not true. Right now, he’s the most popular political leader in the country by quite some margin: https://www.pollcheck.co.uk/favourability-ratings

And as for his record in Greater Manchester, he won 3x elections with a majority of over 60% each time, because most people in Manchester liked what he was doing for their region.

UK Leadership Approval Ratings - Interactive chart showing approval trends for political leaders

UK Party Leader Approval Ratings Today | PollCheck

Keir Starmer's net approval rating is -38, Kemi Badenoch -17, Nigel Farage -17. Poll-by-poll approval ratings for UK party leaders, updated weekly.

https://www.pollcheck.co.uk/favourability-ratings

EasternStandard · 28/08/2026 23:50

Visiblyabove25 · 28/08/2026 23:16

In social media terms though, what he’s doing is working unbelievably well. His reach is massive for a politician - especially with 18-34s. And his engagement (view to share count etc) is really high too.

They were talking about it on The Rest is Politics & apparently he has 10 mins a day in his diary to shoot content with his social media team, and then they package it various ways & push it out on social media. It’s an unbelievably time efficient way for a Prime Minister to communicate with a massive audience.

Just like politics students learn how Howard Wilson was the first Prime Minister to master TV, in years to come they’ll be studying how Andy’s little toy buses made him the first Prime Minister to conquer TikTok!

Let’s see how it pans out. It could easily go from jazz hands fab to empty gestures no thanks from the public.

Worrall20 · 28/08/2026 23:45

Visiblyabove25 · 28/08/2026 23:16

In social media terms though, what he’s doing is working unbelievably well. His reach is massive for a politician - especially with 18-34s. And his engagement (view to share count etc) is really high too.

They were talking about it on The Rest is Politics & apparently he has 10 mins a day in his diary to shoot content with his social media team, and then they package it various ways & push it out on social media. It’s an unbelievably time efficient way for a Prime Minister to communicate with a massive audience.

Just like politics students learn how Howard Wilson was the first Prime Minister to master TV, in years to come they’ll be studying how Andy’s little toy buses made him the first Prime Minister to conquer TikTok!

The rest is politics Alastair Cambell really? Dr David Kelly! No it is not working well at all. Most people are watching and thinking what the heck? Think he needs to seriously get rid of his social media team as they are making him a laughing stock. Christ we have bigger problems than him with his Lego houses and the bloody buses? why no mention of the Russian Ambassador being recalled by Russian? No mention of the economic state of the country? This guy is a complete joke! Politics Students will be studying Burnham, only to see his mistakes, Health Secretary, Staffordshire Scandal, also privatisation of parts of the NHS. Manchester, homeless up, ULEZ 104 mill wasted, GMP in special measures, grooming gangs. Most 18-34 year olds think he is a joke.

Pumpkinswirls · 28/08/2026 23:31

Yeah it’s all very disappointing. I wasn’t a fan of Starmer but at least he was Statesman like. Andy, Angela and co aren’t premier league players and have no useful ideas on how to actually grow the economy and boost productivity. Roll on the next GE.

KeepPumping · 28/08/2026 23:27

Jopo12 · 28/08/2026 14:24

The man has no clue how to run a country. But then no one in the labour party does so nothing new there

Sooner they are gone the better, this is just more clown show with an actual person as opposed to a robot.

WerewolfOfLoudon · 28/08/2026 23:22

EnglishRose26 · 28/08/2026 16:03

Literally ANYONE but Labour - anyone at alll. My dog, your dog, the pet rabbit would do a better job. They are an absolute disgrace and have no idea what they are doing. They should just do the right thing, and call an election, and put country before party.

You want Swinney? He's definitely not Labour. Doubt he makes video social media posts. He will blow millions fighting a fact in court though.

#LarryForPrimeMinister

Visiblyabove25 · 28/08/2026 23:16

WallowingInMud · 28/08/2026 16:08

Gosh there’s a lot of hate out there for Mr B.

I like him. He has twinkly eyes and has mastered the capsule wardrobe. Not so sure about the guitar action but if it makes him happy…

My point is that his SM is pants. Using little toys as visual mnemonics is patronising and facile. His SM team need to raise their game.

In social media terms though, what he’s doing is working unbelievably well. His reach is massive for a politician - especially with 18-34s. And his engagement (view to share count etc) is really high too.

They were talking about it on The Rest is Politics & apparently he has 10 mins a day in his diary to shoot content with his social media team, and then they package it various ways & push it out on social media. It’s an unbelievably time efficient way for a Prime Minister to communicate with a massive audience.

Just like politics students learn how Howard Wilson was the first Prime Minister to master TV, in years to come they’ll be studying how Andy’s little toy buses made him the first Prime Minister to conquer TikTok!

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2026 23:16

bafta16 · 28/08/2026 18:59

Starmer is not lacking capability.

He apparently lacked the capability to manage the Labour Party. Regardless of how well he may or may not have been doing as PM.

Ayarreet · 28/08/2026 23:11

WallowingInMud · 28/08/2026 14:42

But I don’t want to unfollow.

I want him to be better. I want to see him being better. If I unfollow I might miss the moment when his comms become better and that would make me sad. I don’t want to be sad.

I want Labour to do well and get more than one term in office in order to make big changes to our society. I worries that if he is spending time building little LEGO houses and practising his cowboy throw then he’s not actually doing big things. He’s just communicating about everyday stuff through the medium of little things.

Come on Andy. You can Be Better #DitchTheToys

Totally agree.
Messages of tweeks and gimmicks are good to keep up momentum, but get on with the big stuff.
Make sure it's as united a voice as you can muster, keep us informed, but get on with the job.

Ayarreet · 28/08/2026 22:56

EnglishRose26 · 28/08/2026 17:03

And don't even get me started about Louise Haigh whom is convicted of fraud. You really couldn't make this up. I would love to say they are doing a good enough job, given the stakes are so high, but even labour voters are floundering and struggling to find a single positive. It is an unholy mess and we have been taken over by the hard far left. We have every right to be horrified and furious.
They knew they would never get into No 10 without a stitch up and here we are.

Edited

"hard far left" 😂
And people who say 'you really couldn't make this up' should be made to stand in the corner and have a think.

Worrall20 · 28/08/2026 21:13

WallowingInMud · 28/08/2026 17:54

Now I feel that I am veering off topic, my beef being the use of certain props to liven up our PM’s insta feed.

But…

It’s many years of Conservative Party policies coupled with nutters at the helm in Russia and the USA that got us in the mess we are in.

Mr Starmer and then Mr Burnham as PM are trying to unravel the mahoosive pile of poo left behind by your lot. It takes more than a couple of years to sort that sort of stuff out. It really does.

From where I am standing all that I can see Kemi doing is slag off the opposition (I refer you to her insta feed to verify this) without at all acknowledging that she’s in the team of the guys that effed it up in the first place.

Oh please, the reason we are in this mess is exactly because Labour are in charge. They have made things 100% worse! No Economic growth, unemployment up. They are clueless and none of them have ever ran a business or have any business acumen. As for Burnham maybe look at his record in Manchester, 104 million wasted on ULEZ, that didn’t go ahead, GMP in special measures, grooming gangs cover up. Then to top it all up he picks, amongst others, Haigh, convicted fraudster, Reynolds lied about being a solicitor, Rayner, tax avoidance, if she didn’t understand the rules then she is not capable of being a Government Minister. KB slagging off the opposition? That is her job to call out the opposition, although I will say she does with a lot more decorum than the likes of Rayner. If you think Burnham is your answer then I think you are in for a rude awakening.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/08/2026 20:49

Beepen · 28/08/2026 15:01

Thought of this thread when I saw this!

"Anyone noticed how cats are smarter than dogs"

Fuck me , Andy , nothing gets past you mate !

Anyone with eyes and a brain cell knows cats are the superior beings

ElenOfTheWays · 28/08/2026 20:33

WallowingInMud · 28/08/2026 14:43

On what part of his body is he ‘wearing’ the hat?

Anyone else got a " you can keep your hat on" earworm now?

bafta16 · 28/08/2026 18:59

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2026 18:43

I mean, its not like 'dull' is the full requirement! But 'dull and capable' is perfectly alright.

Starmer is not lacking capability.

Swiftie1878 · 28/08/2026 18:47

BindweedIsMyNemesis · 28/08/2026 14:08

Absolutely @Beepen . We have a bus service on Wednesdays (yes, just on Wednesdays) and it is one way.....

Snap! Except ours is on a Thursday!!

And just this week they’ve installed a new bus stop for the virtually non-existent service to stop at! 🤷‍♀️

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2026 18:43

bafta16 · 28/08/2026 18:35

We had it and they chucked him out. Now it comes to light what he actually did achieve.

I mean, its not like 'dull' is the full requirement! But 'dull and capable' is perfectly alright.