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Birthday fuss and expense for others

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Toooldforthisfuss · 28/08/2026 10:27

What is it with women (I’ll say women as I’ve never personally known a man to do this) who want to make a huge fuss for their own birthdays, involving others spending £100s ! Not even big birthdays, say 39 or something??

I’ve got a newish friend, and we met as our daughters grew close over the last few years as they’re in the same sports activity every week. We get on, not best friends but meet for coffee etc. We have been away overnight with the girls when they compete.

Anyway, I’ve been invited to her birthday night out end of September, and she wants to go to another city by train, book a hotel etc. I’ve politely declined and said I would go to a local night for for a meal or something. I’m not paying for hotels, travel, food, drinks etc for someone’s birthday. I would never expect anyone to spend that on me, and I can’t believe anyone thinks it normal to ask others to drop loads of money to celebrate them.

Before anyone says, just say no, you can decline etc. Well I’ve declined and she’s messaged away from the group chat she set up, to say she’s disappointed I can’t make it and asked why?

I haven’t replied yet but I’ll be honest and say I’m not paying £300 or more for a night out.

Is it just me who would never ask people to fork out hundreds of pounds for their birthdays. If people are willing to, that’s great and have fun, but if they decline why question it?

Weddings I understand, spending money on my kids, happy to! Same with my husband and parents big birthdays, happy to go all out, but I’ve been asked to spend about £300 on someone’s birthday, said no, and I’m being asked why??

With my absolute best friends, we just go out for a meal, no fuss.

Years ago, someone else wanted me to spend nearly all I had in savings to go to Vegas for her wedding, and I said no to that, and she was put out by that too! (And got divorced a year after the wedding).

AIBU here?

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JustGiveMeReason · 04/09/2026 16:52

Millytante · 02/09/2026 15:58

What is most offensive is the requirement that OP explain why she isn’t going! Even a generally oblivious person ought to have the sensitivity to allow others their privacy there, since so often it’ll be about economics.
Far too pushy.

But clearly a lot of us - including many on this thread - wouldn't find it offensive.

If someone is close enough to me to invite me to go an spend a weekend / night away with them, then they would certainly be close enough to say "More people have declined than accepted so I'm just trying to get a feel for why, so I can make sure if I arrange something again, I do it differently, as I'd love to spend time with you".

I would have no issue saying

  • it's too difficult with childcare
or
  • I don't have that in my budget
or
  • I really don't like fish restaurants (or whatever they have planned)
or
  • It's just a really busy month for me, I don't have the headspace / energy
or
  • I've already got something on that weekend
or
  • My Mum's not very well so I'm doing a lot for her at the moment and don't want to be away
etc, etc

I just don't get people who are friends, who can't chat to each other. It's bizarre.

GladViewer · 03/09/2026 14:19

Millytante · 02/09/2026 15:58

What is most offensive is the requirement that OP explain why she isn’t going! Even a generally oblivious person ought to have the sensitivity to allow others their privacy there, since so often it’ll be about economics.
Far too pushy.

I mean I personally wouldn’t find it offensive from a friend, but then I’m quite open with those I deem friends. Sorry, I don’t fancy this destination, maybe next time, or sorry I’ve dc’s birthday that month and it’s costing a fortune, or sorry there’s already commitments in the diary that weekend. I just couldn’t get worked up over it.

Jeds55 · 02/09/2026 17:51

The same applies to any invite - if people decline I accept their decision, I don't question their reasons, or try to persuade them otherwise.

Its so irritating (and common) for people to do this!

Millytante · 02/09/2026 15:58

GladViewer · 28/08/2026 10:36

I mean it depends on circumstances and the type of thing you enjoy, but I love a night away with my friends, and these days it happens once in a blue moon, so I would jump at the chance if someone else organised it. I can also see why it wouldn’t appeal to some, or might be too much to spend at a particular time, that’s fine too. I think it’s harsh to take offence at. I would be glad she wanted to spend time with you, wish her a great time and a happy birthday.

What is most offensive is the requirement that OP explain why she isn’t going! Even a generally oblivious person ought to have the sensitivity to allow others their privacy there, since so often it’ll be about economics.
Far too pushy.

GladViewer · 02/09/2026 14:25

August1980 · 30/08/2026 06:16

I was thinking this. Not so much with my friend group, but my ‘mum friend group’. The ladies usually try to organise something like this around special occasions like birthdays otherwise it’s pretty random to organise a night away/dinner etc.around work/kids especially as these happen so rarely. It works out a treat for everyone, the birthday girl just happens to be the one organising! A few of my mum friends joined me In Milan a few months ago for a lewis Capaldi gig! I was going to with husband and nanny and baby, but he couldn’t go due to his work schedule I mentioned it to a mum (I chat too like you do not besties of anything) on pick up, she said she would love to come, she mentioned it so another mum, and so it went and in the end it was 6 of us! It was my birthday month but it wasn’t actually for my birthday, I was going to do this anyway and a few people tagged along! I was very touched though, at one of the meals I was given a card and a gift and they paid my portion too! (But I think more because I organised flights/hotels and tickets!)It was roughly about £500 per person including concert tickets but the ladies were pleased with themselves for a 2 nights away in Milan! There was one mum who said she would liked too but couldn’t afford it/childcare. When another mum had something for her birthday she did go! You are entitled to feel the way you do and to decline which you have done but it really depends on your social circle! We took out toddler skiing this year and my husband best mate from boarding school and his wife (child free couple) tagged along! He mentioned to his friend we were going, the wife text me for details and voila they joined us! And were surprisingly not put off my toddler and baby weaning at meal times!!! All sorts in the world, no need to be angry about it

That sounds fabulous! A couple of my friends and I have been trying to organise a spa hotel weekend for about a year now. It can be so hard to find dates. A birthday is great excuse for one as it’s a set weekend and you go if you can and if you can’t hopefully someone else will organise one for theirs.

Toooldforthisfuss · 31/08/2026 22:02

TFImBackIn · 31/08/2026 15:36

Is the sort of person who'd willingly pay that amount for every one of the women she'd invited?

Im not sure, but she hasn’t been away for anything like this in the last few years I’m sure. She would have said otherwise.
She can be quite tight with some things. Won’t tip ever, for example, says she’s against it.

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TFImBackIn · 31/08/2026 15:36

Is the sort of person who'd willingly pay that amount for every one of the women she'd invited?

Toooldforthisfuss · 31/08/2026 07:11

CheeseFiend40 · 30/08/2026 20:53

“It sounds lovely, but I don't think it's really my thing. I'm sure you'll all have an amazing time though, and if there's any local celebration count me in! 😊”

I’ve vowed to no longer spend time and money on things I don’t want to do, particularly when it takes away from my family. If she can’t accept that or gets funny with you then thats not a proper friendship.

I’ll say something like this, because it’s the truth 🙂

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JustGiveMeReason · 30/08/2026 21:00

Just use what @EnglishRose26 suggested above, or a simple message like "I only have enough AL and budget to go away with family I'm afraid. Hope you find someone to go with and hopefully we'll be able to do something local when the time comes"

Edited to remove what I'd said in my previous post that seemed to delay in posting so hadn't appeared

JustGiveMeReason · 30/08/2026 20:57

Saying no now will make me look like a massive bitch!

No it won't.
You have an odd way of looking at things.

CheeseFiend40 · 30/08/2026 20:53

Toooldforthisfuss · 30/08/2026 20:34

It’s off, not enough people to go so more than likely will be a local night somewhere, which I’m happy to go to.

She has now said (word for word, copied and pasted) “ l had better start planning my 40th for next year now, so we can all save and keep the date in the diary. I am thinking a long weekend in Croatia or Barcelona 🎉🎉. No one should have plans for next September so we can sort something out soon!!!”

Now, for me. I don’t want to go. Those places will likely be lovely but I’d rather go with my family, or sisters, or close friends. Saying no now will make me look like a massive bitch!

“It sounds lovely, but I don't think it's really my thing. I'm sure you'll all have an amazing time though, and if there's any local celebration count me in! 😊”

I’ve vowed to no longer spend time and money on things I don’t want to do, particularly when it takes away from my family. If she can’t accept that or gets funny with you then thats not a proper friendship.

Besidemyselfwithworry · 30/08/2026 20:51

Me too
the same with hen nights aswell - just insane

When I was 40 I went for an Indian with some friends in town - local to everyone not in another city, no hotel and there was 12 of us. I paid for the banquet meal which was about £22-24 per head then people bought their own drinks. If I couldn’t have afforded to do that then I wouldn’t have done it!!!!!

It’s the same with hen do’s aswell; people have this assumption that everyone wants to spend a fortune don’t they?? It’s bang out of order.

EnglishRose26 · 30/08/2026 20:48

Bunny65 · 30/08/2026 20:47

i think she’s got a nerve and the hide of a rhino. I would politely ignore.

I wouldn't ignore, she will take it as tacit agreement, those kinds of people always do. Best to get ahead of it.

Bunny65 · 30/08/2026 20:47

Toooldforthisfuss · 30/08/2026 20:34

It’s off, not enough people to go so more than likely will be a local night somewhere, which I’m happy to go to.

She has now said (word for word, copied and pasted) “ l had better start planning my 40th for next year now, so we can all save and keep the date in the diary. I am thinking a long weekend in Croatia or Barcelona 🎉🎉. No one should have plans for next September so we can sort something out soon!!!”

Now, for me. I don’t want to go. Those places will likely be lovely but I’d rather go with my family, or sisters, or close friends. Saying no now will make me look like a massive bitch!

i think she’s got a nerve and the hide of a rhino. I would politely ignore.

EnglishRose26 · 30/08/2026 20:44

Toooldforthisfuss · 30/08/2026 20:34

It’s off, not enough people to go so more than likely will be a local night somewhere, which I’m happy to go to.

She has now said (word for word, copied and pasted) “ l had better start planning my 40th for next year now, so we can all save and keep the date in the diary. I am thinking a long weekend in Croatia or Barcelona 🎉🎉. No one should have plans for next September so we can sort something out soon!!!”

Now, for me. I don’t want to go. Those places will likely be lovely but I’d rather go with my family, or sisters, or close friends. Saying no now will make me look like a massive bitch!

'Whilst I look forward to celebrating your 40th next year, heads up in advance that we are saving for a big family holiday and I won't be able to stretch to a weekend overseas next September, I am more than happy to organise a lunch or dinner for you before you go or once you are home. Lets make a plan closer to the time'

JoyousLilacFawn · 30/08/2026 20:43

Toooldforthisfuss · 28/08/2026 10:27

What is it with women (I’ll say women as I’ve never personally known a man to do this) who want to make a huge fuss for their own birthdays, involving others spending £100s ! Not even big birthdays, say 39 or something??

I’ve got a newish friend, and we met as our daughters grew close over the last few years as they’re in the same sports activity every week. We get on, not best friends but meet for coffee etc. We have been away overnight with the girls when they compete.

Anyway, I’ve been invited to her birthday night out end of September, and she wants to go to another city by train, book a hotel etc. I’ve politely declined and said I would go to a local night for for a meal or something. I’m not paying for hotels, travel, food, drinks etc for someone’s birthday. I would never expect anyone to spend that on me, and I can’t believe anyone thinks it normal to ask others to drop loads of money to celebrate them.

Before anyone says, just say no, you can decline etc. Well I’ve declined and she’s messaged away from the group chat she set up, to say she’s disappointed I can’t make it and asked why?

I haven’t replied yet but I’ll be honest and say I’m not paying £300 or more for a night out.

Is it just me who would never ask people to fork out hundreds of pounds for their birthdays. If people are willing to, that’s great and have fun, but if they decline why question it?

Weddings I understand, spending money on my kids, happy to! Same with my husband and parents big birthdays, happy to go all out, but I’ve been asked to spend about £300 on someone’s birthday, said no, and I’m being asked why??

With my absolute best friends, we just go out for a meal, no fuss.

Years ago, someone else wanted me to spend nearly all I had in savings to go to Vegas for her wedding, and I said no to that, and she was put out by that too! (And got divorced a year after the wedding).

AIBU here?

I know. Annoys me too. Once a friend asked me to go to a destination wedding. She had family who would’ve put me up but the return flight alone would’ve cost 1k, without factoring in other costs like a wedding present and food. I do think it is simple though - if you don’t want to do it or can’t afford it, just say no.

Chilly80 · 30/08/2026 20:42

I'm sure you'll find no one will want to go next year either.

Toooldforthisfuss · 30/08/2026 20:34

It’s off, not enough people to go so more than likely will be a local night somewhere, which I’m happy to go to.

She has now said (word for word, copied and pasted) “ l had better start planning my 40th for next year now, so we can all save and keep the date in the diary. I am thinking a long weekend in Croatia or Barcelona 🎉🎉. No one should have plans for next September so we can sort something out soon!!!”

Now, for me. I don’t want to go. Those places will likely be lovely but I’d rather go with my family, or sisters, or close friends. Saying no now will make me look like a massive bitch!

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SweetMotherofAbrahamLincoln · 30/08/2026 19:51

CJ50Mum · 30/08/2026 19:48

That's shocking! You do live & learn

Exactly that - life gives you lessons

CJ50Mum · 30/08/2026 19:48

SweetMotherofAbrahamLincoln · 29/08/2026 23:21

I think some people are just very self absorbed. A few years ago, I spent £800 attending a hen do abroad (meaning I couldn’t take my children on holiday that year) plus extra for the wedding. Plus it was the friends 30th birthday later same year that also cost a fair amount. When it came to my birthday she suggested ‘crisps and dip’ at a mutual friends house because she couldn’t even be arsed to go for a meal. I’ve learnt the hard way that some people are happy for a lot to be spent on them and love the attention on them but god forbid it’s someone else’s turn. Keep my circles very small now.

That's shocking! You do live & learn

DressOrSkirt · 30/08/2026 14:04

Toooldforthisfuss · 28/08/2026 18:07

Yes you’re right, I suppose I am disagreeing with myself. I suppose what I mean is knock yourself out if you’re into paying for things like this, but what I disagree with is being asked why. It’s just not something I want to pay for, at all.

I think it's fine for her to ask why, especially if lots of people have said they can't go. Now she knows the reason she might change it to something local, or at least will know for future birthdays what the issue was.

bananaobama · 30/08/2026 11:29

Too many people have main character syndrome and also social media makes it worse

Tahlbias · 30/08/2026 09:19

Katalica · 28/08/2026 11:09

I’d be tempted to reply ‘I don’t like you quite enough to justify spending that sort of money’. 😂

You made 'quote of the week' on my emails and I have to agree! 🤣

luckylavender · 30/08/2026 09:06

I find it absolutely cringe that she followed up to tell you how disappointed she was. Seriously.

nowimabeliever · 30/08/2026 09:04

I remember going away for a few trips for friends’ birthdays when I was younger. Now we have kids, it would be a bit much. What’s the big deal? You can just say you can’t afford it. Why are you overthinking it?