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AIBU to think friend’s question was fair?

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Luluandkirk · 27/08/2026 11:01

Last night I went to a languages night at a local bar (everyone wears tags with what languages you speak so you can practice & socialise).

My friend and I ended up chatting to 2 guys from Qatar who were just in the bar, not for the language night. So asked what languages they speak and they said Arabic and then said we are Muslim. My friend asked if they were practicing Muslims and one of the guys asked why. My friend kind of dodged a reply and tried to change the subject but he asked why she asked if they were practicing and persisted on the question. My friend said something like ‘oh I just wondered because you are drinking’ (alcohol)

He got really offended so I tried to back my friend up and said that well I was raised catholic but I’m no longer practicing, some people aren’t. The conversation moved on and it was all friendly in the end.

AIBU to think that while the awkward moment probably could’ve been avoided, my friend was just asking questions to get to know them? To clarify, she was absolutely not judging them for drinking but they were in fact drinking so it was a fair enough question. Not everyone raised in a religion do practice it continually and that is perfectly fine. As I said we continued chatting and it was all friendly but I think it played on her mind a bit.

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AnitaCam · 29/08/2026 11:07

nomas · 29/08/2026 10:57

Ever heard of nuns?

Not ones covered in Make up, that have husband and kids, no. Certainly not child nuns.

AnitaCam · 29/08/2026 11:06

nomas · 29/08/2026 10:56

I missed the bit where this man issued a death threat to the OP and her friend. Can you point it out?

Being obtuse in order to miss the point. Hey ho.

nomas · 29/08/2026 10:57

AnitaCam · 29/08/2026 10:29

Do catholics make women dress like shameful anomalies? Catholicism doesn’t have an equivalent presence in the world. You are comparing two very very very very different things.

Ever heard of nuns?

nomas · 29/08/2026 10:56

AnitaCam · 29/08/2026 10:22

It’s the noli mi tangere of Muslim ideology that causes the stringency. Hindus don’t issue death threats to artists that don’t flatter them. Let’s not pretend these religions have the same kind of presence or character in the world.

I missed the bit where this man issued a death threat to the OP and her friend. Can you point it out?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/08/2026 10:51

AnitaCam · 29/08/2026 10:29

Do catholics make women dress like shameful anomalies? Catholicism doesn’t have an equivalent presence in the world. You are comparing two very very very very different things.

I’m not comparing the two religions or their clothing. I am asking as a Muslim man, do they have to be fully committed to the rules. Or is there believer’s who take some parts and leave other parts. Is there free will?
Can you attend the mosque in go for a pint?

AnitaCam · 29/08/2026 10:29

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/08/2026 10:25

Do practicing Muslims have to stick to all
the rules. I am a practicing Catholic, far from devout. I have my own interpretation of the rules. Definitely broke a few of the main ones, those without sin cast the first stone.

Do catholics make women dress like shameful anomalies? Catholicism doesn’t have an equivalent presence in the world. You are comparing two very very very very different things.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/08/2026 10:25

Do practicing Muslims have to stick to all
the rules. I am a practicing Catholic, far from devout. I have my own interpretation of the rules. Definitely broke a few of the main ones, those without sin cast the first stone.

AnitaCam · 29/08/2026 10:22

nomas · 29/08/2026 09:25

Do you call Hindus who eat meat and Jews who eat pork hypocrites too?

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It’s the noli mi tangere of Muslim ideology that causes the stringency. Hindus don’t issue death threats to artists that don’t flatter them. Let’s not pretend these religions have the same kind of presence or character in the world.

nomas · 29/08/2026 09:25

DeathNote11 · 29/08/2026 09:23

You friend outed a hypocrite. I'd say that was a job well done except for the backpedaling. I'd have kept at it like a dog with a rabbit.

Do you call Hindus who eat meat and Jews who eat pork hypocrites too?

Deboragh · 29/08/2026 09:25

Namenamchange · 27/08/2026 11:18

I think it’s a strange question. People generally speaking don’t practice all their religion practises 100% of the time, and their tends to be a spectrum of practice

Why mention it in the first place if its something you don't want to talk about, nobody asked them

DeathNote11 · 29/08/2026 09:23

You friend outed a hypocrite. I'd say that was a job well done except for the backpedaling. I'd have kept at it like a dog with a rabbit.

QuietComet · 29/08/2026 09:20

Weird, rude and intrusive question. If they were drinking alcohol, why even ask?

Religion has so many nuances, one persons "devout" is not the same as the next.

People's interpretations and following of religious "rules" differs too. It doesn't (or it shouldn't) detract from how they feel in their heart and soul.

Deboragh · 29/08/2026 09:20

DysmalRadius · 27/08/2026 11:07

It sounds a bit intense to quiz someone on their religion and how devout they when you're making small talk in a bar and this is borne out by the fact that the man was offended by the question. 🤷🏻

Whether or not people on here agree with you, it was an inappropriate question for the situation because it bothered the person who'd been asked.

If its inappropriate to ask, out of confusion, because he was drinking, how was it appropriate for him to mention it in the first place? Who the hell volunteers their religious beliefs in the opening sentences of a conversation about language. Did anyone else say stuff like, ' I'm Jonathan I speak German and I'm a protestant. He offered totally irrelevant information, why should he get offended about curiosity about it.

Xanhi · 29/08/2026 08:37

Ponoka7 · 29/08/2026 08:20

Women in America are having to just that. Supposed Christian men are making reproductive laws, when the rest of that man's life, isn't lived as a devout Christian. Let's not pretend that men's choice of religion doesn't get used to beat women down. The religion of choice, in this case, was used as a identity marker, yet they are standing there doing something against that religion, we don't have to ignore it. Although as women, we shouldn't question men, would be their stance.

The OP is talking about some casual chit chat in a bar with some men who had not expressed any views on the reproductive rights of women in the US. The soapbox doesn't have to come out on every occasion.

WhyIsThereGlitterEverywhere · 29/08/2026 08:30

It’s an awkward question. Firstly, it’s overly personal given the situation, so awkward in the same way that asking someone details about their income or clothing size etc would be uncomfortable. It’s just not something you ask someone in casual conversation.

It’s also an awkward question because there is currently a lot of anti-Muslim prejudice, it’s not surprising that a Muslim who has previously faced prejudice might be extra aware of any pointed questions about their religion.

As others have pointed out it also seems quite judgy, different people practice/don’t practice religion in their own way. People who were raised in a particular religion but whom don’t adhere to all of the customs might feel guilty about the bits they don’t follow for whatever reason, so bringing that up on a random night out just seems a bit much.

I think YABU.

Packofsix · 29/08/2026 08:28

Ponoka7 · 29/08/2026 08:25

@Packofsix they didn't ask what religion the men were, it was the men who chose to tell them. Where does that fit into normal?

No, they were asking the men what languages they spoke and where they were from, which makes that a perfectly normal thing to say

Ponoka7 · 29/08/2026 08:27

@Dontasksillyquestions I don't like homophobia, or being told I'm a second class citizen. I don't agree with any culture holding on to child rape, because it's traditional. If that's having a chip on my shoulder, I'll own it.

Ponoka7 · 29/08/2026 08:25

@Packofsix they didn't ask what religion the men were, it was the men who chose to tell them. Where does that fit into normal?

Dontasksillyquestions · 29/08/2026 08:22

Ponoka7 · 29/08/2026 08:20

Women in America are having to just that. Supposed Christian men are making reproductive laws, when the rest of that man's life, isn't lived as a devout Christian. Let's not pretend that men's choice of religion doesn't get used to beat women down. The religion of choice, in this case, was used as a identity marker, yet they are standing there doing something against that religion, we don't have to ignore it. Although as women, we shouldn't question men, would be their stance.

You have a weird chip on your shoulder. The question would have been just as inappropriate coming from a man. It wasn’t the OP’s friend’s place to question how he practices his faith. What is she, the religious police?

Ponoka7 · 29/08/2026 08:20

Xanhi · 29/08/2026 07:32

It was a bit of a crass question. Would you question a Christian person's faith in this way if they weren't following it to the letter?

Women in America are having to just that. Supposed Christian men are making reproductive laws, when the rest of that man's life, isn't lived as a devout Christian. Let's not pretend that men's choice of religion doesn't get used to beat women down. The religion of choice, in this case, was used as a identity marker, yet they are standing there doing something against that religion, we don't have to ignore it. Although as women, we shouldn't question men, would be their stance.

Packofsix · 29/08/2026 08:19

Luluandkirk · 27/08/2026 11:16

People don’t have the same attitude when it comes to Christianity though. I’ve been asked 100 times when I’ve said I’m catholic “do you go to church”. It’s very similar.

It isn’t similar at all and you know why they were offended. You know it. I would also be interested in knowing in what ‘100’ conversations you ever had the need to say ‘I’m Catholic.’ As most normal people don’t go around asking what religion people are

Packofsix · 29/08/2026 08:17

Yes, it is a super weird question and you and your friend are absolutely the AH’s. Would you ask someone in a bar if they were practicing catholics? No you wouldn’t. Get a grip

susiedaisy1912 · 29/08/2026 08:15

Edgelands · 27/08/2026 11:17

No, I think it was a poor choice of question for the situation. If she could see they were drinking alcohol and this event was in a pub, clearly they weren’t devout — so asking them if they were practising risked sounding like a rather aggressive ‘Gotcha!’ It’s certainly not something I’d start off with when making social chitchat to practice my Arabic with total strangers.

This

Dontasksillyquestions · 29/08/2026 08:12

hattie43 · 29/08/2026 07:43

I think this thread demonstrates the whole problem in our society . White people taking umbrage on behalf of Muslims who aren’t offended by it . It makes Muslins out to be intolerant of every little thing when in reality it’s not the case .

There’s no need to generalise, this is about one particular interaction.

Politics and religion should be left out of polite conversation. It’s weird to question someone’s religion in a social setting, especially when you’ve just met. There can be any number of reasons why he was drinking. Maybe he’s questioning his faith and has difficulty coming to terms with it, maybe he’s a hypocrite, or maybe he’s really an atheist but can’t come out to his family and friends. Doesn’t make it ok for a stranger to challenge him.

bananaobama · 29/08/2026 08:11

They probably felt guilty about the beer