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Dh says the U.K is f***** and he never wants to go back

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Chippednailtoepolish · 26/08/2026 14:55

These were his words this morning.

We live abroad in a place where a lot of people are coming to live, escaping the uk and America.
He says with everything on the news, the way it's going and what the people coming to where we are tell him, that we'd be mad to return.
Is he being realistic? I want to return to be with family desperately and have a strange feeling that I need to do it soon

Would we be mad to return at this time? If yes, then when!

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NorthXNorthWest · 27/08/2026 21:19

Pieceofpurplesky · 27/08/2026 20:30

You will get polar opposite views here for political, economic, societal and geographic reasons.
I live in a lovely, low crime area where the community is great and the state schools good. I have had amazing treatment on the NHS with my cancer diagnosis and treatment and my Dad has been really well cared for over the last year of being ill.
It's by no means perfect but overall does depend on where you live in the UK.

It's a lottery and it should not be.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 20:32

Pieceofpurplesky · 27/08/2026 20:30

You will get polar opposite views here for political, economic, societal and geographic reasons.
I live in a lovely, low crime area where the community is great and the state schools good. I have had amazing treatment on the NHS with my cancer diagnosis and treatment and my Dad has been really well cared for over the last year of being ill.
It's by no means perfect but overall does depend on where you live in the UK.

absolutely this

Pieceofpurplesky · 27/08/2026 20:30

You will get polar opposite views here for political, economic, societal and geographic reasons.
I live in a lovely, low crime area where the community is great and the state schools good. I have had amazing treatment on the NHS with my cancer diagnosis and treatment and my Dad has been really well cared for over the last year of being ill.
It's by no means perfect but overall does depend on where you live in the UK.

thatsgotit · 27/08/2026 20:26

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 19:00

Hands up if you’re living in a six bedroom country pile and think everyone else is too 🙋‍♀️

Was that aimed at me? If so I’m not sure I understand the logic of your post, I only shared that info to challenge a pp’s apparent preconceptions.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 20:16

NorthXNorthWest · 27/08/2026 20:02

I thought young people and families were being priced out of places like Cockermouth.

It doesn't address the issue of affordability for young people and people on ordinary or lower salaries.

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Cockermouth rural area is still affordable.

lljkk · 27/08/2026 20:07

BIossomtoes · 27/08/2026 08:09

Deaths are outnumbering births now.

and yet the population pyramid is expected to get increasingly top heavy in next 10 yrs (top being older people). Median age will still be rising for decades to come.

NorthXNorthWest · 27/08/2026 20:02

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 19:48

We are on the edge of the lakes so yes, it’s more expensive to live in the national park but Penrith/cockermouth areas and villages on the edge can be very reasonable and great places to live plus very sparsely populated in rural areas.

I thought young people and families were being priced out of places like Cockermouth.

It doesn't address the issue of affordability for young people and people on ordinary or lower salaries.

Clavinova · 27/08/2026 19:58

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 19:46

How do I know? We know they are peer-reviewed because they were published in these highly regarded, blind-reviewed academic journals.

Nevertheless, the research 'is limited and the available studies are few and now quite old' to quote from your link.

Dersie · 27/08/2026 19:51

strawberrybubblegum · 26/08/2026 18:49

The Left are so racist! Do you really think everyone who emigrates to the UK (or to another country, like OP has) is the same? Why do you pretend that you can't tell the difference between them Confused

I hugely appreciate my colleagues, friends and family members who have moved here legally from overseas (from India, Pakistan, China, Hong Hong, Singapore as well as Europe). They are highly-educated, contribute hugely to the UK both economically and culturally and enrich my life.

I'm angry at and about both legal and illegal immigrants who don't integrate in the UK, commit crimes, take far more in social benefits than they will ever pay in tax, and bring over tens of 'relatives' who will do the same.

I'm really angry at the amount of violent and sexual crime committed by men coming from countries with no respect for the law or women. Afghan nationals (like the ones who raped that 14 year old on the train) are convicted of sexual crimes at 20 times the the rate of British men.

Assuming that the OP's husband is in Spain/Portugal legally, is working and contributing, and isn't raping children then it's perfectly reasonable for him to be concerned about UK immigration - it's not 'rich' at all.

Are you so racist that you don't realise that well-integrated UK immigrants are just as concerned about our ridiculous immigration policies as native Brits are?

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Good on ya, well put.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 19:48

NorthXNorthWest · 27/08/2026 19:42

Isn't there a problem with people who were born and brought up in the Lakes being able to afford to live in the area they were born? Isn't this a common problem in may places.

England is already shit for many people, and soon many more will be joining them. Labour seems determined to squeeze the middle, and full time workers - taxing work, savings and assets all the while putting more obstacles in the way of the young people trying to get started, limiting their ability to buy their own home and build some financial security.

We are on the edge of the lakes so yes, it’s more expensive to live in the national park but Penrith/cockermouth areas and villages on the edge can be very reasonable and great places to live plus very sparsely populated in rural areas.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 19:46

Clavinova · 27/08/2026 19:28

How do you know that the studies in your link are peer-reviewed? None of the studies in the table look at data beyond 2009/2010 for asylum seekers or non-EEA migrants. In fact, the text in your link says:

Research on how migration affects crime rates in the UK is limited.
The available studies are few and now quite old.

How do I know? We know they are peer-reviewed because they were published in these highly regarded, blind-reviewed academic journals.

NorthXNorthWest · 27/08/2026 19:42

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 15:04

Because people’s experiences and expectations are vastly different? I live in the Lakes. It’s beautiful, pretty much crime free, really outdoorsy lifestyle, great small schools. I love it but I wouldn’t like in parts of Birmingham for example because it would be very different to what I want in a home/area. You can’t possibly believe all of Spain/Portugal/dubai is the same. There’s crime and problems everywhere.

Isn't there a problem with people who were born and brought up in the Lakes being able to afford to live in the area they were born? Isn't this a common problem in may places.

England is already shit for many people, and soon many more will be joining them. Labour seems determined to squeeze the middle, and full time workers - taxing work, savings and assets all the while putting more obstacles in the way of the young people trying to get started, limiting their ability to buy their own home and build some financial security.

Clavinova · 27/08/2026 19:28

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 17:20

@strawberrybubblegum sorry to let you know that Women in the UK face the overwhelming majority of male violence and femicide at the hands of men they already know—predominantly current or former intimate partners—rather than from strangers or specific nationality groups. The most dangerous place for a woman remains her own home. Overall immigration to the UK is roughly balanced between men and women, despite what you might think peer-reviewed academic studies and data analysed by groups like the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford consistently find that immigrants are, on average, less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens. The UK has a problem with its own men which really needs to be looked at first. That’s where the real danger lies.

How do you know that the studies in your link are peer-reviewed? None of the studies in the table look at data beyond 2009/2010 for asylum seekers or non-EEA migrants. In fact, the text in your link says:

Research on how migration affects crime rates in the UK is limited.
The available studies are few and now quite old.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 19:26

SixtySomething · 27/08/2026 19:23

There was a program on Radio 4 a few months ago. They were saying there has been a significant DECREASE in violent crime and theft, the opposite of public perceptions. So that backs up the pp who said it suits many people to portray Britain in a negative light.
Where crime has increased is in terms of cyber crime.

I sense that you have a completely distorted version of life in the UK.
If safety is your priority, it would be easy to find an extremely safe neighbourhood, although I believe the UK is in general a safe country.
It’s sad you should think otherwise.

Confusing too considering her own family love where they live in England

SixtySomething · 27/08/2026 19:23

Chippednailtoepolish · 26/08/2026 15:19

Basically crime etc

There was a program on Radio 4 a few months ago. They were saying there has been a significant DECREASE in violent crime and theft, the opposite of public perceptions. So that backs up the pp who said it suits many people to portray Britain in a negative light.
Where crime has increased is in terms of cyber crime.

I sense that you have a completely distorted version of life in the UK.
If safety is your priority, it would be easy to find an extremely safe neighbourhood, although I believe the UK is in general a safe country.
It’s sad you should think otherwise.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 19:06

I live in the country, it’s very rural and safe. It’s not expensive though. You can buy at house in my village for £120K , ours was not much more. We don’t earn much between us but we don’t spend much. I moved from Manchester to here as I hated my life there. I now have a very different view of life and community and friendship.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 19:06

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 19:00

Hands up if you’re living in a six bedroom country pile and think everyone else is too 🙋‍♀️

Bizarre

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 19:01

Why on earth have they deleted their own emojis 😜

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 19:00

Hands up if you’re living in a six bedroom country pile and think everyone else is too 🙋‍♀️

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 18:59

💩🕳️

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 18:58

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 18:57

Did someone say my name?

Excited for the name change reveal!!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 18:57

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 18:40

coupled with the swipes at people you had assumed lived in ‘shitholes

presumably you didn’t read how @EvangelicalAboutButteredToast described where she lived?

dystopian

You can see the filth and anti social behaviour and the local parks and communal spaces being trashed by teenagers. The high street is Turkish barber, Vape shop, board up shop on repeat. None wants to go out in the evening as the high street becomes a war zone.

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Did someone say my name?

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Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 18:40

coupled with the swipes at people you had assumed lived in ‘shitholes

presumably you didn’t read how @EvangelicalAboutButteredToast described where she lived?

dystopian

You can see the filth and anti social behaviour and the local parks and communal spaces being trashed by teenagers. The high street is Turkish barber, Vape shop, board up shop on repeat. None wants to go out in the evening as the high street becomes a war zone.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 18:37

thatsgotit · 27/08/2026 18:16

And if you’d only told us once about your life, that’s how I would have contextualised it. It was the repetition, like you really wanted everyone on the thread to know how perfectly peachy your life was, coupled with the swipes at people you had assumed lived in ‘shitholes’, that came off as boasting.

There was lots of posts from a number of posters repeatedly telling us how shit the country was

so myself and some others continued to provide balance

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 27/08/2026 18:25

@strawberrybubblegum if these are Ministry of Justice Numbers the maths here isn't quite right. The data actually says 15% are foreign nationals, not 27% (the other 12% are just listed as "unknown" because it wasn't recorded). Also, non-UK citizens make up about 13-14% of the population, not 9%.
More importantly, you're comparing apples to oranges. The general UK population includes millions of children and elderly people. The migrant population is mostly young men—the group statistically most likely to commit crime in any country, including our own.
When you compare men of the exact same age, the difference drops right down. Twisting numbers to fit a narrative doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of violence against women in the UK is done by British men known to the victim.

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