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Dh says the U.K is f***** and he never wants to go back

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Chippednailtoepolish · 26/08/2026 14:55

These were his words this morning.

We live abroad in a place where a lot of people are coming to live, escaping the uk and America.
He says with everything on the news, the way it's going and what the people coming to where we are tell him, that we'd be mad to return.
Is he being realistic? I want to return to be with family desperately and have a strange feeling that I need to do it soon

Would we be mad to return at this time? If yes, then when!

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 14:05

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 14:01

I am not worried about you not paying taxes. How is my comprehension poor?

Because you have repeatedly tried REALLY hard to misunderstand all of my posts and project your narrative onto me. You are bombarding me with post after post and it’s a bit peculiar.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 14:03

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:58

So calling posters “insufferably smug” is just what you very calmly think about those of us who don’t live in a shithole (but never been sufficiently galvanised to up sticks and move)

Good lord they just keep on coming. Let me think about this one as you don’t seem happy with any of my answers so far.

deep breath.

You’re writing style comes across as ‘insufferably smug,’ that doesn’t mean if I met you in real like I’d think you were insufferably smug, you are probably delightful.

You are frustrated I don’t share the same experience as yourself and would have liked me to move? I apologise I couldn’t make that happen, the housing market has been incredibly hard for six years, i assume due to government policies, interest rates, stamp duty.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 14:01

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 14:00

Your reading comprehension seems poor 😬

I am not worried about you not paying taxes. How is my comprehension poor?

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 14:01

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:59

I’m not sure I can answer that. You don’t think I’m sad that I’m happy? Other way round. You think I’m sad that you’re happy? Okay. 👌

I don’t think sad
I don’t think happy

I think… disbelieving and / or… well calling people “insufferably smug” does indicate at least low level negativity towards us!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 14:00

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:59

Not in the least bit worried
good luck in the job hunting

Your reading comprehension seems poor 😬

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:59

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:58

I was away on holiday when that joyous event took place. I lost my job directly due to Labour policies but there’s a job in the pipeline so I’ll be back to paying taxes again soon, don’t worry.

Not in the least bit worried
good luck in the job hunting

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:59

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:53

I don’t think you are “sad” that some of us have a very different experience and view of the country as you. Far from it

I’m not sure I can answer that. You don’t think I’m sad that I’m happy? Other way round. You think I’m sad that you’re happy? Okay. 👌

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:58

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:56

I’m not angry with you for living somewhere nice. You’re projecting that onto me to try and prove an imaginary point.

I’m certainly annoyed with successive governments and how they’ve allocated money. Im furious at the waste around Covid and the millions spent on dodgy PPE and whatever else they squandered our money on, but I’m not angry with you directly. You can go sup your coffee with my blessing 🥰

So calling posters “insufferably smug” is just what you very calmly think about those of us who don’t live in a shithole (but never been sufficiently galvanised to up sticks and move)

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:58

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:57

I’ll take a wild guess you voted for
Brexit @EvangelicalAboutButteredToast ?

You are currently unemployed and job hunting? That would make anyone feel particularly low about their country I imagine

I was away on holiday when that joyous event took place. I lost my job directly due to Labour policies but there’s a job in the pipeline so I’ll be back to paying taxes again soon, don’t worry.

Utterlybutter · 27/08/2026 13:58

ThisCraftyAquaHedgehog · 26/08/2026 21:45

Depends where you live.
Where I live it's very safe, beautiful and people are lovely.
In other parts I wouldn't want to spend more than 2 minutes.

The UK as a whole is still pretty decent.

For the moment. Burnham is going to spread asylum seekers throughout all areas soon.

That will change things for a lot of people.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:57

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:54

I would be very surprised if your kids do pursue this kind of career based on what you presumably have said about the country

You’re another one that’s trying very very hard to project something on to me and so I will concede to your point. Yes you are correct.

GasPanic · 27/08/2026 13:57

Laurmolonlabe · 27/08/2026 13:51

None of this contradicts what I was saying- as to skills affecting your ability to have a good life I would strongly disagree, unless your skills are in finance or IT.
You can be very skilled indeed and not be able to earn a decent wage in the UK.

Hence the operative word "right" in the right skillset.

No, it isn't a wheel.

The UK has remained pretty much where it is relative to other G7 nations for years. We are still at the cutting edge of many technologies, although which technologies we are at the cutting edge of changes quite a bit over time as we fall behind in some areas and develop new ones. That's a feature of a dynamic economy.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:57

I’ll take a wild guess you voted for
Brexit @EvangelicalAboutButteredToast ?

You are currently unemployed and job hunting? That would make anyone feel particularly low about their country I imagine

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:56

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:52

Again… the fact I post that I very much am happy with my life in England… your response is that we are insufferably smug and “we’re alright jack, shame you live in a shit hole”

we are giving our experiences. You seem very angry that we aren’t as pissed off and Hate the country as much as you

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I’m not angry with you for living somewhere nice. You’re projecting that onto me to try and prove an imaginary point.

I’m certainly annoyed with successive governments and how they’ve allocated money. Im furious at the waste around Covid and the millions spent on dodgy PPE and whatever else they squandered our money on, but I’m not angry with you directly. You can go sup your coffee with my blessing 🥰

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:54

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:53

I wouldn’t be devastated no. I’d support them f they joined the military as a career choice. I’d be bloody pissed off if it were a draft though and they weren’t given a choice. That’s entirely different.

I would be very surprised if your kids do pursue this kind of career based on what you presumably have said about the country

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:53

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:49

I can’t help the way you come across in the written form 😜. That’s how you sound. Well we’re alright Jack, shame you live in a shit hole.

I don’t think you are “sad” that some of us have a very different experience and view of the country as you. Far from it

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:53

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:50

But presumably you’d be devastated at your children joining the army to protect a country you regard as having gone to the dogs?

I wouldn’t be devastated no. I’d support them f they joined the military as a career choice. I’d be bloody pissed off if it were a draft though and they weren’t given a choice. That’s entirely different.

LittlePetitePsychopath · 27/08/2026 13:53

Chippednailtoepolish · 26/08/2026 15:35

Soain and Portugal

Then I wouldn’t come back. The quality of life there is a million times better. People are right that it’ll get better but probably not in our lifetimes.

My husband felt a pull to come home last year. We did. We all regret it. Don’t do it.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:52

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:49

I can’t help the way you come across in the written form 😜. That’s how you sound. Well we’re alright Jack, shame you live in a shit hole.

Again… the fact I post that I very much am happy with my life in England… your response is that we are insufferably smug and “we’re alright jack, shame you live in a shit hole”

we are giving our experiences. You seem very angry that we aren’t as pissed off and Hate the country as much as you

Laurmolonlabe · 27/08/2026 13:51

GasPanic · 27/08/2026 13:46

We are the 4th biggest economy in the G7.

The GDP gap between us and France/Italy (which were considered our nearest competitor countries in terms of size of population, standard of development and GDP) has widened considerably over the past few years. There is a possibility that we may overtake the Japanese who are currently in 3rd place in the next decade.

GDP isn't of course the whole story in terms of macro indicators and we struggle in terms of productivity and also probably equality of wealth as we are importing significant amounts of people that add to the population but do not currently generate high GDP (hence issues with GDP per capita).

I think the issue whether you can have a good life in the UK largely depends on your skills. If you have the right skillset you can do well here, but if you don't you probably are going to struggle compared with other countries.

There are things here that can be very expensive (eg property) compared with other places, so if you want to maintain a standard of living and you are established in a country with relatively low property prices it can be difficult to transfer and maintain the same lifestyle.

None of this contradicts what I was saying- as to skills affecting your ability to have a good life I would strongly disagree, unless your skills are in finance or IT.
You can be very skilled indeed and not be able to earn a decent wage in the UK.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:50

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:48

I think that was to me. We did look at Navy cadets as the Navy fund university places I believe.and I thought it could be an interesting opportunity to explore. We didn’t have the time but I wouldn’t completely rule it out. I could imagine them potentially being in the armed forces but I haven’t explicitly asked them.

But presumably you’d be devastated at your children joining the army to protect a country you regard as having gone to the dogs?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:49

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:46

I never said you were sad
But you called those of us conveying a different experience of England to you as being “insufferably smug”

I can’t help the way you come across in the written form 😜. That’s how you sound. Well we’re alright Jack, shame you live in a shit hole.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:48

Flamingojune · 27/08/2026 13:21

But your sons would be happy to fight for our country?

I think that was to me. We did look at Navy cadets as the Navy fund university places I believe.and I thought it could be an interesting opportunity to explore. We didn’t have the time but I wouldn’t completely rule it out. I could imagine them potentially being in the armed forces but I haven’t explicitly asked them.

GasPanic · 27/08/2026 13:46

Laurmolonlabe · 27/08/2026 13:35

It's a wheel, no one stays at the top too long, the cutting edge I am talking about is about the collapse- we were ahead and we still are, just not in the best position.
It's amazing we have stayed anywhere on the world stage TBH- we are tiny and our influence is very much in the rear view mirror- the fact we are invited to the table at all reflects our skills.

We are the 4th biggest economy in the G7.

The GDP gap between us and France/Italy (which were considered our nearest competitor countries in terms of size of population, standard of development and GDP) has widened considerably over the past few years. There is a possibility that we may overtake the Japanese who are currently in 3rd place in the next decade.

GDP isn't of course the whole story in terms of macro indicators and we struggle in terms of productivity and also probably equality of wealth as we are importing significant amounts of people that add to the population but do not currently generate high GDP (hence issues with GDP per capita).

I think the issue whether you can have a good life in the UK largely depends on your skills. If you have the right skillset you can do well here, but if you don't you probably are going to struggle compared with other countries.

There are things here that can be very expensive (eg property) compared with other places, so if you want to maintain a standard of living and you are established in a country with relatively low property prices it can be difficult to transfer and maintain the same lifestyle.

Theendoftheroll · 27/08/2026 13:46

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 13:45

I’m not sad that you’re happy. I’m suggesting that there’s an awful lot of deprivation around the country and you’re experience doesn’t cancel that out. Two people can be working in a workplace for example and experience two different workplaces. The people in the warehouse are having a very different experience to the c-suite running the place.

I never said you were sad
But you called those of us conveying a different experience of England to you as being “insufferably smug”

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