Page 7 | AIBU to ask what is happening in Middlesbrough at the moment?

Netcurtainnelly · 2026-08-26T12:16:40+00:00

What's going on in Middlesbrough anyone live there? [[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmrz8d31mo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmrz8d31mo]] This house fire may be linked to criminal activities at the weekend, where the policemen were killed. Just before the crash on Saturday somebody's house had been rammed with a vehicle doing extensive damage to the house? They set out in their car trying to find them and retaliate. It said it's happened to other houses as well? Is this all linked to drugs? It's horrible. Where's it going to end? Why would you want to be mixed up in all that? Is it worth your life?

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 27/08/2026 21:01

Backedoffhackedoff · 27/08/2026 20:59

That would be really rude. You may think it but only a really nasty piece of work would say it to them.

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Only a really nasty piece of work would drive down the road the wrong way and crash into two innocent men simply doing their job.

Sherbs12 · 27/08/2026 21:01

Eightfor15 · 26/08/2026 16:55

I'm shocked they managed to arrest so many so quickly. Shows how they can get off their arses when it's one of their own. Had the innocent people been a random family, not police, I'm not sure there would have been so many arrests so soon.

I always thought those claims of two tier policing were bollocks, but it's true. Police victims get better and swifter justice than we do

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What a disgusting, ignorant comment - particularly given the context. Perhaps you and yours should join the police force and risk your safety/lives to show us how it’s done. It’s so easy to write comments on forums.

Edited to add: Many police officers live in these communities, or were raised in them, or will have had their own experiences of people close to them being victims of crime. Many of them are trying to make a difference and do the job with the best of intentions. Maybe reflect on what you think comments and attitudes like yours does to the profession and their families following the deaths of two officers just doing their job.

Backedoffhackedoff · 27/08/2026 20:59

Starlightstargazer · 27/08/2026 20:32

I wish they could! Just why do they think there community is the way it is? Why do their kids turn to a life of crime. Why was their parenting so bad? Unless they truly consider their part in it all, nothing will ever change.

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That would be really rude. You may think it but only a really nasty piece of work would say it to them.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/08/2026 20:58

People like BackedOffHackedOff have tried hard on here to stop people expressing their disdain for this lifestyle.
If people aren’t allowed to show just how disgusted they are by the behaviour of this section of society, then the ‘fly high beautiful boys who loved their nan, lives stolen by brutal policing’ tosh will continue unabated.

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 27/08/2026 20:57

Starlightstargazer · 27/08/2026 20:32

I wish they could! Just why do they think there community is the way it is? Why do their kids turn to a life of crime. Why was their parenting so bad? Unless they truly consider their part in it all, nothing will ever change.

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I do think more needs to be done to hold parents accountable. Obviously these were older so that's irrelevant.

However, I've seen a huge rise of these balaclava clad idiots, tearing down roads on surron bikes and just generally being a menace to society. Apparently it's 'just them being kids' or 'there is nothing else for them to do'. Maybe if the parents were held accountable, they'd do more about they're little angels...

Starlightstargazer · 27/08/2026 20:32

Backedoffhackedoff · 27/08/2026 19:49

Would you really ask a bereaved mother - a total stranger- on Facebook why her recently dead son was such a criminal scroat?

really?!

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I wish they could! Just why do they think there community is the way it is? Why do their kids turn to a life of crime. Why was their parenting so bad? Unless they truly consider their part in it all, nothing will ever change.

NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 27/08/2026 20:12

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 27/08/2026 20:06

The fact a lot of their memorial photos are them doing gang hand gestures or in balaclavas says it all really...

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Reminded me of the Mad Max film.

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 27/08/2026 20:06

LakieLady · 27/08/2026 20:02

That tells you everything you need to know about them, really, doesn't it?

It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that it wouldn't have happened if their kids hadn't nicked the car in the first place.

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The fact a lot of their memorial photos are them doing gang hand gestures or in balaclavas says it all really...

LakieLady · 27/08/2026 20:02

Kopfkino · 26/08/2026 13:52

The family of one of the boys killed said they would still be alive if the police stopped their chase earlier. That the police have questions to answer 🤷

Or, you could’ve brought your boys up better and 7 people would still be alive.

That tells you everything you need to know about them, really, doesn't it?

It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that it wouldn't have happened if their kids hadn't nicked the car in the first place.

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 27/08/2026 19:58

Netcurtainnelly · 27/08/2026 19:42

They are having to get more police in to help it seems.
Thank god for the police. Can't let the gangs rule the streets. Stay safe.

It's been very refreshing to see how much praise and respect has been given to the police since the accident. They do such a challenging job, it's about time they get the recognition for it.

Backedoffhackedoff · 27/08/2026 19:49

Starlightstargazer · 27/08/2026 19:47

i can imagine 😞. So no one challenges as they can’t and therefore these people never reflect and understand how their kids have ended up as they have.

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Would you really ask a bereaved mother - a total stranger- on Facebook why her recently dead son was such a criminal scroat?

really?!

Starlightstargazer · 27/08/2026 19:47

NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 27/08/2026 19:12

You can bet these families and associates will be the scourge and blight on their own communities.

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i can imagine 😞. So no one challenges as they can’t and therefore these people never reflect and understand how their kids have ended up as they have.

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Netcurtainnelly · 27/08/2026 19:42

They are having to get more police in to help it seems.
Thank god for the police. Can't let the gangs rule the streets. Stay safe.

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NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 27/08/2026 19:12

Starlightstargazer · 27/08/2026 18:57

Does anyone reading the families comments on Facebook say anything? Ask them why these lads ended up the way they did? Ask them why they have extensive police records, steal cars etc? Or are people too scared to do so?

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You can bet these families and associates will be the scourge and blight on their own communities.

Starlightstargazer · 27/08/2026 18:57

IsAStart · 27/08/2026 18:33

I hate violence and criminal behaviour, but if this has happened it would be better to have taken place at the balloon release. Least that doesn't affect anyone else - and given that the youth’s mum was asking the people bring their ‘bikes, quads, cars, jeeps - to give him the send off he deserves’ - a fitting outcome. 😌

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Does anyone reading the families comments on Facebook say anything? Ask them why these lads ended up the way they did? Ask them why they have extensive police records, steal cars etc? Or are people too scared to do so?

IsAStart · 27/08/2026 18:33

Netcurtainnelly · 27/08/2026 18:27

It seems someone was stabbed today. 🤮

I hate violence and criminal behaviour, but if this has happened it would be better to have taken place at the balloon release. Least that doesn't affect anyone else - and given that the youth’s mum was asking the people bring their ‘bikes, quads, cars, jeeps - to give him the send off he deserves’ - a fitting outcome. 😌

IsAStart · 27/08/2026 18:28

Cleveland Police have requested more officers to be brought in from other forces.

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Netcurtainnelly · 27/08/2026 18:27

It seems someone was stabbed today. 🤮

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Backedoffhackedoff · 27/08/2026 18:19

Badbadbunny · 27/08/2026 16:11

IF they're going to carry on breaking laws if they were released, then yes, keep them locked up for public safety.

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And how would you know?

Pixiedust49 · 27/08/2026 18:04

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · 27/08/2026 14:03

which area of South Wales are you referring to please?

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I’d rather not say where I live for anonymity reasons but it’s an area very well known for anti social behaviour.

Badbadbunny · 27/08/2026 16:13

Netcurtainnelly · 27/08/2026 13:23

People who take drugs are part of the problem.
Nobody actually needs to take drugs like they are selling . It's a selfish and awful choice that affects others.
Wonder what they think when innocent people get killed like the policemen.

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Nail on the head. Especially for the "professional" types of people who take recreational drugs. They don't accept that THEY'RE part of the problem of money laundering shops, modern slavery, county lines, gang wars, etc. They seem to think a quick puff or sniff is somehow "victimless". I just don't know how people can justify themselves to the harm they cause to others.

Badbadbunny · 27/08/2026 16:11

Backedoffhackedoff · 27/08/2026 12:19

So would you keep people locked up after they’ve served their sentence? Under what circumstances would you do that?

they had a 3 strikes and you get life law in NYC. It was repealed and is now mainly considered barbaric by modern standards

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IF they're going to carry on breaking laws if they were released, then yes, keep them locked up for public safety.

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · 27/08/2026 14:03

Pixiedust49 · 27/08/2026 12:53

I live in South Wales and same story here. Where I live feels lawless sometimes, a total loss of control from the authorities.

which area of South Wales are you referring to please?

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Netcurtainnelly · 27/08/2026 13:23

Yetanotherone12 · 27/08/2026 13:16

There’s a lot of people on here should join the police and put their ideas of how we need to tackle drugs gangs in practice 🙄

do we really think mumsnetter in Milton Keynes with the vast experience of watching the news the last couple of days know better than the police on how to tackle drugs gangs?

come on. engage brains and think why they go after the bosses and not the street workers.

a quick google will show you mass drugs arrests are common and the arrests in this case are far from unusual. It may have been triggered by intel on the phones but everyone is jumping to two tier policing and the police do nothing.

join up. Take the risks and do the work. Take your wonderful ideas and put them into practice. Then you can lecture on how it could be done better.

People who take drugs are part of the problem.
Nobody actually needs to take drugs like they are selling . It's a selfish and awful choice that affects others.
Wonder what they think when innocent people get killed like the policemen.

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Netcurtainnelly · 27/08/2026 13:21

Vallies · 27/08/2026 11:44

Oh lovely idea. Do you know how many small businesses fail in their first year? How do you imagine a business employing disenfranchised youths would fare? Would you buy a coffee/insurance/double glazing from them? That's if they even turn up and don't have their hand in the till.

It woukd be lovely if there were more businesses employing young people but they're not going to be employing these young people.

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Set up your own, or be employable from the start.
What do you think other people do ? Anyone can set up a business today. Equal opportunities for all. Princes Trust springs to mind, some people just think of an idea and go for it themselves. Watch Dragons Den tonight on TV.

Sounds like your making excuses for them. I'm sure you wouldn't if they smashed into your car or burgled your house.

They are just scum and would have carried on being scum if they hadn't been killed. World dosent need their contribution to. Life.
The police officers were everything they weren't.

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