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Do female leaders and managers make better managers ?

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MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 26/08/2026 00:54

theres often talk about females being better than men and that if women had control of the world etc the world would be better and since they have not achieved that yet, part of the question can be answered by me asking do females / women make better managers than males and why ?

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MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 28/08/2026 01:02

EBearhug · 26/08/2026 23:37

Yes, there are bad women managers, but there are many, many bad men managers, too.

true

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 26/08/2026 23:53

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 26/08/2026 23:42

Do you ever aspire to be a manager yourself?

Not really. I owned a business for a decade and was much better just working alone and pulling 12 hour days. I did subcontract but I ended up doing most of the work myself and paying too well, so it didn’t work out.

I suppose I’ve had to step into a managerial role a couple of times and did a moderately good job. My problem is I can’t really deal with the scatty and idle. I get frustrated. I just expect everyone to crack on with stuff like i do and when they meander and prevaricate I just think I’ll do it myself, I see myself as more of a worker than a delegator. I always say that in every past life I’ve been in i would have been a peasant and a wench, a farm hand and a labourer.

EBearhug · 26/08/2026 23:44

Tomas Chamorto-Premuzic wrote Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders? He says we value the wrong traits looking for leaders. The argument would hold true for women as much as men. It is not a question of someone's sex, but their abilities to plan, organise, communicate, listen, etc. Men and women can both do this well, or badly, but we tend to prefer charismatic personality more than proven ability in the areas which really matter in leadership.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 26/08/2026 23:42

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 26/08/2026 23:38

Not in my experience no. I would have a male boss over a female boss all day long.

Do you ever aspire to be a manager yourself?

Titaniasdream · 26/08/2026 23:42

I have had more male managers than female, but both my best and very worst managers were female. The men have all been sort of middlingly fine. The really good manager was phenomenal, she was so inspiring and a genuinely great leader, the worst almost caused me to have a nervous breakdown and disappointingly lived up to every tired stereotype I've ever heard about female leadership.

Some people are good and natural leaders, or at least are self aware enough to be conscious of, and work on, areas of weakness. Some people are rubbish and have no self awareness. I don't think sex or gender come into it at all, really.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 26/08/2026 23:38

Not in my experience no. I would have a male boss over a female boss all day long.

EBearhug · 26/08/2026 23:37

Yes, there are bad women managers, but there are many, many bad men managers, too.

Nugg · 26/08/2026 23:32

no. HTH

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 26/08/2026 23:31

GaIadriel · 26/08/2026 23:27

Well....

Liz Truss - tanked economy in a few days

Rachel Thieves - not exactly winning the hearts and minds of the country

Maggie Thatcher - undermined the power of the unions to grievous effect

Angela Rayner - fraudster

Elizabeth Bathory - most prolific serial killer known to mankind

Bloody Mary - burned hundreds of protestants at the stake

Catherine de' Medici - instrumental in the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre.

Ranavalona I - burned/boiled people alive. Killed much of the population through forced hard labour etc.

Wu Zetian - poisoned family members - had political rivals tortured etc.

Queen Fredegund - many assassinations

Probs many more.

so we then put all women in charge sit back with popcorn and think bloody jesus christ

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GaIadriel · 26/08/2026 23:27

Well....

Liz Truss - tanked economy in a few days

Rachel Thieves - not exactly winning the hearts and minds of the country

Maggie Thatcher - undermined the power of the unions to grievous effect

Angela Rayner - fraudster

Elizabeth Bathory - most prolific serial killer known to mankind

Bloody Mary - burned hundreds of protestants at the stake

Catherine de' Medici - instrumental in the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre.

Ranavalona I - burned/boiled people alive. Killed much of the population through forced hard labour etc.

Wu Zetian - poisoned family members - had political rivals tortured etc.

Queen Fredegund - many assassinations

Probs many more.

Gengha · 26/08/2026 23:01

Unfortunately all the women I’ve had as managers have been complete fucking cows

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 26/08/2026 23:00

GaIadriel · 26/08/2026 22:59

I mean, most female politicians can't define what a woman is. And it was a woman who supported putting male sex offenders in women's prisons.

Jesus help us

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GaIadriel · 26/08/2026 22:59

I mean, most female politicians can't define what a woman is. And it was a woman who supported putting male sex offenders in women's prisons.

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 26/08/2026 22:59

GaIadriel · 26/08/2026 22:57

Queens are statistically more likely to start a war than kings apparently. I do wonder if it's because they dont have to actually fight in them.

so why do some people think if women ruled the world then there would be world peace ?

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GaIadriel · 26/08/2026 22:57

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 26/08/2026 22:53

so overall if women were in charge of all the countries there would still be wars etc

Queens are statistically more likely to start a war than kings apparently. I do wonder if it's because they dont have to actually fight in them.

GaIadriel · 26/08/2026 22:55

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 26/08/2026 00:58

thats the thing it does kinda prove that if females ruled the world overall in all management positons they could still cause various mixed effects across the globe

Women consistently vote in favour of male bosses. They feel even more strongly than men.

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · 26/08/2026 22:53

so overall if women were in charge of all the countries there would still be wars etc

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bittertwisted · 26/08/2026 21:08

CalmFairy · 26/08/2026 10:13

Lol you must be working with my past boss.

Im my experience men managers are better.
My past jobs with women managers were awful, some of them picked who they wanted to like and the rest got treated like crap.

One bullied me and other staff so much, she got removed from the role.
Another one said she had to let me go along with 2 others, just to find out she wanted to have her daughter and her friends to work there, the whole place went bust in a few months.

Another one i felt like slapping, poor woman near me use to faint due to cramps and migraines lose sight in one eye, she was told to stop making a fuss take some pain killers and get on with it or get out.
That was the very job i walked out from 8 year ago i got up got my bag and walked out never went back told her to go fuck herself.
Above lady is lovely very sweet woman we still talk she works in the job center now, said boss got the sack in the end.

My manager now is a man and he`s great.

im not saying it’s because she’s a woman, she’s just vile 😩
i will never ever understand the ability to inflict such damaging behaviour on others

I am very naive, believe success flourishes by treating people as you would want to be treated, encouraging success, nurturing a trusting environment

Clearly why I’m not a high flyer 😂
would rather have my soul any day

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 26/08/2026 20:00

I have had some bloody awful female managers - absolute bitches who will walk over everyone to reach the top. They have no understanding of work life balance for others but are out of the door asap themselves

Violet76 · 26/08/2026 19:39

Two great managers stick out on my career, one female and the other male. My worst ever manager was a woman - she was a vindictive bully.

Pistachiocake · 26/08/2026 16:01

Just like skin colour/age etc, it's irrelevant. Had good and bad of both sexes.

Some say women are more sympathetic about childcare, but I've seen women managers who are rich/have lots of family help scoffing at underlings who aren't so lucky.

Just like some say that they've been treated less gently by female gynaecologists, as if because they're women and don't find something painful, no other woman should have the right to!

Deadringer · 26/08/2026 15:41

In my admittedly small sample of experience my female bosses have been better. The males tended to be lazier and less on the ball than the females. In general I think women are more focused on people rather than projects, are more empathetic, and pay better attenion to detail all of which are good management skills. I worked in retail for a long time and saw a lot of my male colleagues promoted to manager over the females, they were definitely promoted because they were male and wouldn't be having babies, that was years ago tbf and I hope that has changed for the better.

ByLoftyUmberOtter · 26/08/2026 13:50

Sometimes the worst people (men & women) are drawn to management positions for power & salary increase not necessarily them being cut out to be great at it unfortunately

BeMellowAquaSquid · 26/08/2026 12:21

I’m a female people manager I’ve been a manager around 15 odd years and I like to think I’m a good manager because I’ve learned from some really great and really poor managers both male and female. The worst manager I had happened to be female, my favourite manager was a male although not necessarily the best. The best manager I have ever had was female.

CorporalJohn · 26/08/2026 12:19

The best boss I ever had was a lady solicitor. I was her deputy. She said she found managing men a great deal easier than managing women.

Make of that what you will.