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To think my friend is trying to make me feel bad?

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ByLoftyUmberOtter · 24/08/2026 14:52

I have a friend who I’ve been friends with for close to 20 years. The last several years were very hard for me. She knows this. Well, the last year things have been looking up for me, not perfect, and I don’t say, “Oh my life is so great now,” but I’ve noticed she tends to bring up the past like very painful topics for me and not offer any support or kindness.

Like she brings up my painful family estrangement every few weeks unprompted and asks the same questions (they haven’t contacted you, how terrible!) knowing I’ve moved, changed my phone number, etc.

She knows the answers, it’s like she’s trying to provoke a reaction. I feel so terrible after talking to her. I’ve told her before I wanted to move on from this. She will also make random jabs about embarrassing moments from my past consistently out of the blue.

Shes going through a hard time now since she’s in her 50s with a young child and she’s never really worked. I stay positive and offer to help her find a job.

Her ex husband can’t hold a job and she was fully reliant on her mom’s income. Her mother passed away earlier this year, and my friend has always had extreme spending issues. I sent her some money for her mom’s funeral. She also stays up all night and will maybe get 3-4 hours of sleep.

I have to say she didn’t use to treat me like this before she was in such a vulnerable position, and I was doing horribly but it’s like since she’s stressed she lashes out at me. Life before she might say something randomly hurtful but now she really digs in salting my wounds. She had a history of being verbally abusive with her exes and her mom.

She also forgot my birthday this year which is no big deal but our birthdays are less than two weeks apart, and a text would’ve been nice considering she always remembers her other childhood friends birthdays.

AIBU?

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ByLoftyUmberOtter · 26/08/2026 16:14

That’s what it really feels like, it just hurts so badly considering how bad off I was over the past few years, however I didn’t try to make her feel like I did. I went to therapy for 3 years during this time working on myself.

I think she does have untreated bipolar disorder (she told me years ago she was diagnosed but seemed to dismiss the diagnosis) which may make her lashing out at others worse.

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Greenseacat · 25/08/2026 12:11

You sound like a decent person OP who wants to help others.

But frankly your 'friend' sounds like she only wants you around if she can make you feel bad so she can feel better about herself.

Basically when you were struggling she probably felt a sense of satisfaction that she was not in your position...now that she is struggling too she is trying to bring you down so she can feel superior again.

I would dump her and focus on making new friendships with people who bring positivity to your life.

ByLoftyUmberOtter · 25/08/2026 11:33

It’s especially odd to me that she brings it up so often when I’ve never expressed wanting to reconcile with my family.

Whenever I mentioned to her (this was over a year ago) my mom contacting me by sending me a card this friend would barely even respond. Just crickets 🦗

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Firefly100 · 25/08/2026 10:26

This is a person unhappy with their life who finds pleasure in trying to make you as miserable as them. Personally I would end this ‘friendship’ but I would not just ghost them, I’d call them on their behaviour so that they would stop it or choose to drop me - that’s just my style.
When they brought up the estrangement again, I would say something like ‘I’ve asked you to drop the matter so why do you continue to ask me?’ Accusations of sensitive - ‘yes perhaps, and you know this so why do you keep asking. Is your intention to upset me?’. “mothers love is unconditional” - ‘again, you keep referencing matters you know will hurt me - why?’.
If there is anything that would result in a similar response for her, I would use it ‘How would you feel if we spent this call discussing your x instead if you wish to raise hurtful topics?’ A final one if she was persistent would be ‘you seem to be using this call just to bring up matters I’ve asked you not to so I’m going to end it now as I’ve made my position clear’ then hang up. Then I would not contact her again. If she contacts me, OK, I’ll talk but when she raises this again I would go through the same routine. She will get the message that access to me relies on accepting my boundaries. If she is as sensitive as you say, she will probably not contact you after you call her out on her behaviour.

TFImBackIn · 25/08/2026 10:09

I'm so sorry, but this woman is not your friend. She's part of your toxic past and what's more, she's happiest when you're upset. She doesn't sound like a nice person at all - she sounds greedy and entitled, tbh.

Given she lives so far away then I'd either block her or I'd get another phone number altogether so that she can't get hold of you. I'd ask your husband to monitor any messages that arrive through the post because she will certainly try to drag you back into her life, especially as she's lost her other friends (wonder why?) and you give her money.

Bananacrepewithnuts · 25/08/2026 10:02

I have some years of my life that I am really trying to put behind me and I get really anxious/(pissed off) when anyone mentions this.

I shut it down and say that's a time in my life that I've moved on from. I really can't talk about that any more.

Eventually the message gets through but I get you must be really disappointed in your friend who continues to bring up triggering subjects.

You might decide that you need to distance yourself from the friendship.

X

Maray1967 · 25/08/2026 09:14

ByLoftyUmberOtter · 25/08/2026 02:49

Yes she use to be wonderful I thought although in hindsight I can think of random nasty comments she would say, it’s like when it happens in the moment I’m stunned and speechless

But this has happened so many times you have no excuse now for not preparing a good response.

Just practise a couple and deliver them - clearly and firmly.

I’ve asked you not to keep bringing that up. I expect you to respect that.

If you can’t respect that, I think it would be best if we stopped talking. (end call.)

Shes walking all over you and you’re letting her. Call her out on it and protect yourself.

Error404FucksNotFound · 25/08/2026 09:07

A friend would not.

ByLoftyUmberOtter · 25/08/2026 03:02

Thank you. I felt so bad after speaking to her I felt physically ill, and just all these painful emotions welled up. Not just the subjects she brought up, but the fact that I’m on the phone with this woman and she’s trying to hurt me.

its hard to fathom a friend would want to hurt me knowing I’ve had an abusive family, estrangement, horrible workplace trauma(I finally left the job after 5 years) chronic illness and struggle with depression and she would still try to bring me down.

In fact I don’t even tell her much positive going on in my life (like kind things my husband does for me)because I don’t want to make her feel a certain way

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ByLoftyUmberOtter · 25/08/2026 02:54

I’m not a big birthday celebratory person but our birthdays are two weeks apart and both are parents birthdays are in late July through August so I have a hard time thinking her not even sending a text wasn’t intentional.

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ByLoftyUmberOtter · 25/08/2026 02:52

Needling is the perfect term for what she’s doing. It’s just bizarre to me that she can say hurtful things too (directly) as well as then bringing up painful topics but she is extremely hyper sensitive to benign things people say to her, and now thinking about it she can be quite competitive especially when it comes to her child getting awards at school, having the best clothes etc

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ByLoftyUmberOtter · 25/08/2026 02:49

Yes she use to be wonderful I thought although in hindsight I can think of random nasty comments she would say, it’s like when it happens in the moment I’m stunned and speechless

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ByLoftyUmberOtter · 25/08/2026 02:46

Yes definitely, my family was abusive. I met her when I was young and didn’t know how to spot toxic behavior. It’s just now in middle 30s I’ve gotten better at spotting toxic behavior but I still question myself sometimes.

It’s just very hurtful to feel like someone you care about would want to make you feel bad it’s hard for me to accept that.

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OriginalUsername2 · 25/08/2026 01:01

I’m guessing your family are very toxic or you wouldn’t be no contact. It seems you have a toxic friendship too. When we grow up around toxic people we attract them as adults because it’s what we’re used to, until (if we’re lucky) we start having a sort of awakening and making changes.

I’d say leave her in the past and move forward. She’s dragging you back.

OneNewEagle · 25/08/2026 00:23

Try to get some boundaries in place OP.

I have a similar dynamic with a friend nowadays. She’s going through a rough patch. I’ve tried to help. I’m also going through a terrible patch, but she doesn’t even know about any of it. The reason she doesn’t know is she will call and tell me every negative thing in her life for two hours then go. Or I’ll text something nice and get a list of awful things going on in her life. In reality she has nice things happening too but I’m not told about them.

the part that resonates with me is I’m estranged. My friend also knows this and I get the nasty comments about it. Even when i say I don’t want to talk about it or its the same. It’s like my family estrangement has to be a topic of conversation always.

we haven’t spoken on the phone now for 6 months which is sad but at least I don’t have salt rubbed in my wounds.

Cleanlines · 25/08/2026 00:19

This person is not a positive force in your life. You have shared history which makes it hard to cut her out but she seems so toxic. She is needling you, it’s nasty and a problem with her. We all have things in our past that we don’t want to discuss/revisit. Speaking from experience of a similar person, I would avoid. Hope you’re ok.

YourAquaLion · 24/08/2026 22:31

OP this is no friend!!! Fade fade fade her out of your life. She sounds horrible!

AcquadiP · 24/08/2026 21:58

She doesn't sound much of a friend, Op. Perhaps she was in the past but not now?

She's deliberately talking about a subject which is deeply painful to you and which you don't want to discuss with her. This isn't you being 'sensitive', it's self-preservation and she is being very insensitive. I'd be asking myself what is she getting out of doing this when she knows it upsets you so much?

I had a very similar situation with a cousin of mine. I rarely heard from her but whenever I did she would bring up a very painful situation from my childhood which had affected me but not her. Like you, I expressed my boundaries to her and she would ignore them. I believe she was getting some sort of warped pleasure out of stirring things up. The last time she did it, I very calmly told her I wasn't going to discuss the subject, she tried to change my mind, I told her 'no' a second time and ended the call. Then I blocked her. Some people don't deserve our friendship. Only you can decide whether this friendship is worth having any longer.

whippersnapper55 · 24/08/2026 21:55

Stop answering her calls and replying to her texts. You're under no obligation to continue a relationship with someone who is unkind to you and upsets you. Friendships should bring joy into your life - if they're not, then they are not a good friend.

Alwayschillyatnight · 24/08/2026 20:43

Voted YABU for staying friends.
When your friends drag you down, walk away.

BrownFlower2 · 24/08/2026 20:38

Nah, get rid OP. As a previous poster says the friendship has run its course.
I've had this dynamic and after losing my shit didn't change anything, I phased them out. With hindsight they liked me being in a negative space and when I did something about it and changed things for the better the jabs started and they were nothing as bad as what she's saying to you. It's an appalling way to treat a friend of 20 years.

LejlaKapovic · 24/08/2026 20:12

ByLoftyUmberOtter · 24/08/2026 14:52

I have a friend who I’ve been friends with for close to 20 years. The last several years were very hard for me. She knows this. Well, the last year things have been looking up for me, not perfect, and I don’t say, “Oh my life is so great now,” but I’ve noticed she tends to bring up the past like very painful topics for me and not offer any support or kindness.

Like she brings up my painful family estrangement every few weeks unprompted and asks the same questions (they haven’t contacted you, how terrible!) knowing I’ve moved, changed my phone number, etc.

She knows the answers, it’s like she’s trying to provoke a reaction. I feel so terrible after talking to her. I’ve told her before I wanted to move on from this. She will also make random jabs about embarrassing moments from my past consistently out of the blue.

Shes going through a hard time now since she’s in her 50s with a young child and she’s never really worked. I stay positive and offer to help her find a job.

Her ex husband can’t hold a job and she was fully reliant on her mom’s income. Her mother passed away earlier this year, and my friend has always had extreme spending issues. I sent her some money for her mom’s funeral. She also stays up all night and will maybe get 3-4 hours of sleep.

I have to say she didn’t use to treat me like this before she was in such a vulnerable position, and I was doing horribly but it’s like since she’s stressed she lashes out at me. Life before she might say something randomly hurtful but now she really digs in salting my wounds. She had a history of being verbally abusive with her exes and her mom.

She also forgot my birthday this year which is no big deal but our birthdays are less than two weeks apart, and a text would’ve been nice considering she always remembers her other childhood friends birthdays.

AIBU?

She's bringing up your past issues to feel better about her own problems. And she doesn't respect your boundaries when you tell her that you don't want to dig the past back up, which suggests that she doesn't give a shit about you or your feelings. The forgotten birthday further reenforces my conviction that she's not your friend. I'd be done with her. But if you're not ready for that, at least stop giving her money, supprt or offers of help. Just be cordial and polite, and keep it at that.

DaysIllRememberAllMyLife · 24/08/2026 18:30

She's just horrible and she's not your friend.

ThatWaryOchreJoker · 24/08/2026 16:05

There's a difference between a request, ("Please don't bring up X", where she's got the power, either to respect or ignore) and a boundary ("I don't want you to bring up X ever again, and if you do, I'll hang up"/ "I asked you not to bring up X, you have, so I'm hanging up now" where you have the power.
You need to have boundaries and protect them.
This woman is not your friend. She may have problems but her putting you down to make herself feel better doesn't help either of you.
Unfortunately there are "friends" who are happier when you're down and she's one of them.
Long-term, you're doing her a favour by enforcing boundaries, because she'll have to find better ways of making herself feel good.
I'm glad you're in a better place now and hope things continue to get better and that you make some really good friends, who enhance your life and who make you feel buoyed up after seeing them. You deserve better than someone who causes you repeated pain.💐

itsalltoplayfor · 24/08/2026 15:57

in the moment it’s like I’m stunned and frozen

So have some stock answers written down and refer to them if she phones and starts saying this stuff. Maybe you could write/e-mail and lay out your concerns if that is easier than the immediacy of a voice on the phone. Give her some time to consider and change her ways. Mainly, I'd say she isn't much of a friend and you should distance yourself from her. You are not at her beck and call.

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