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AIBU to question Reform's plan to prioritise married couples for social housing?

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QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 14:01

Reform have proposed to prioritise social housing for various groups : 'Rules would be changed to reserve at least half of all social homes in England for British-born workers aged under 35, with prioritisation also given to married couples, veterans, victims of domestic violence and care leavers.'

I agree with DV victims, those with children, care leavers : veterans are also at high risk of homelessness. But why prioritise married couples over single people? I'm not convinced that's fair. I assume it's to encourage marriage which is a good aim but I'm not convinced if this is the right decision.

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Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:55

I haven’t insulted you. Only assumption I made was that you don’t privately rent or have a mortgage. And I think I’m right or you’d know what a bargain less than 100 a week rent is in the south east.

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:54

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:50

Of course you can't be bothered. Firstly your anecdote is clearly imaginary. Secondly you're on shaky ground. We know this because you're not arguing your point, you're unleashing a string of assumptions and insults in an attempt to get me to disclose my personal situation, therefore distracting attention from the fact that you're talking nonsense.

TL:DR? People who don't have a cogent argument are disproportionately likely to claim that they "can't be bothered" to prove their point.

I can’t be bothered to argue whether it’s subsidised or not when it obviously is. Just like arguing whether the man I knows house was given to him for “free” or not. It’s literally just semantics. Of course an unemployed man who’s 100 a week rent in the south east is paid by UC is living there for free

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:53

JHound · 25/08/2026 15:46

They are not remotely market rate though.

True, but social rents aren't subsidised. Market rents are inflated.

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:52

Backedoffhackedoff · 25/08/2026 15:34

Because social housing is providing your mother with a safe secure home! Don’t you value that? Don’t you want your mum safe and secure?!

I don’t have to base my worldview around my mother she’s almost retirement age and lived in social homes (swapped a few times) her whole adult life. If things were how I think they should be she’d probably just of brought a house all them years ago.

Backedoffhackedoff · 25/08/2026 15:52

JHound · 25/08/2026 15:46

They are not remotely market rate though.

Market rate is just a number. Why is market rent the “right” number?

Many people would argue that social rent is the “right” number and private landlords should be charging it (and many effectively do, in parts of the country where social rent = market rent, and sometimes market rent is lower than social rent)

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:50

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:28

A man with no job is given a home and pays less than a 100 a week for it out of his UC. Gets everything fixed for him. It’s obviously subsidised somewhere along the line despite council tenants insisting it’s not. Can’t really be bothered to argue this particular point tbh

Of course you can't be bothered. Firstly your anecdote is clearly imaginary. Secondly you're on shaky ground. We know this because you're not arguing your point, you're unleashing a string of assumptions and insults in an attempt to get me to disclose my personal situation, therefore distracting attention from the fact that you're talking nonsense.

TL:DR? People who don't have a cogent argument are disproportionately likely to claim that they "can't be bothered" to prove their point.

JHound · 25/08/2026 15:46

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:16

Social rents aren't subsidised.

They are not remotely market rate though.

Backedoffhackedoff · 25/08/2026 15:41

MaidsRoom · 25/08/2026 15:35

The government literally announced £16bn of new social housing subsidy this morning. They taxpayer is now subsidising it much more directly because S106 has stopped working so well, and because they want to see an acceleration of social housebuilding and direct subsidy is the only way to do that.

Yes but the national housing bank is new. That hasn’t subsidised anything yet. That doesn’t factor into the “social housing is subsidised” argummet

MaidsRoom · 25/08/2026 15:40

Backedoffhackedoff · 25/08/2026 15:35

There are experts on this thread explaining why it isn’t subsidised, just read those posts

Here is a link to today’s announcement of £16bn of new subsidy, as part of a £39bn subsidy programme.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-social-and-affordable-homes-programme-and-the-reinvigoration-of-council-housebuilding/the-social-and-affordable-homes-programme-and-the-reinvigoration-of-council-housebuilding

Backedoffhackedoff · 25/08/2026 15:35

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:28

A man with no job is given a home and pays less than a 100 a week for it out of his UC. Gets everything fixed for him. It’s obviously subsidised somewhere along the line despite council tenants insisting it’s not. Can’t really be bothered to argue this particular point tbh

There are experts on this thread explaining why it isn’t subsidised, just read those posts

MaidsRoom · 25/08/2026 15:35

Backedoffhackedoff · 25/08/2026 13:03

That entirely depends whether you’re building under s106, but granted that’s more common than using grant.

and yes, outright sale owners are subsiding the build of social housing which is the whole point (although obviously they pay market price and see no different)

Although I think we have now established the tax payer doesn’t subsidise new build social housing? Excluding the 50 odd built by councils anyway.

I’m well aware of cost pressures thanks. As you know, the significant cost of house building is the land, and barratt et al reducing their programmes does give some opportunity for HAs to win bids for land, something that was much harder 5-10 years ago.

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The government literally announced £16bn of new social housing subsidy this morning. They taxpayer is now subsidising it much more directly because S106 has stopped working so well, and because they want to see an acceleration of social housebuilding and direct subsidy is the only way to do that.

Backedoffhackedoff · 25/08/2026 15:34

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 14:31

How my mother chooses to live her life had no bearing on me being allowed an opinion. This is like saying a child of a murderer isn’t allowed to be opposed to murder. I should agree with something just because of my parents ?

Because social housing is providing your mother with a safe secure home! Don’t you value that? Don’t you want your mum safe and secure?!

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:29

StandFirm · 25/08/2026 15:28

Also you cannot have tiered citizenship. That's a feature of the worst regimes out there. Either you're a citizen and enjoy equal rights or you're not.

Then what was the point in this comment from you:

“A social housing flat in the south east Well if his flat gets up to the temps that mine does he will have paid for it in pure sweat this summer as well as the £100“

Ive been sweating all summer too while paying a lot more money for the pleasure

Tagged the wrong person meant for @JenniferBooth

Overthebow · 25/08/2026 15:29

JenniferBooth · 25/08/2026 14:00

and yet the child free were second on the list when they were discussing the possibility of conscription.

Well of course, why wouldn’t they be? Who would look after the children of their parents were sent to war? The childfree?

StandFirm · 25/08/2026 15:28

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 14:01

Reform have proposed to prioritise social housing for various groups : 'Rules would be changed to reserve at least half of all social homes in England for British-born workers aged under 35, with prioritisation also given to married couples, veterans, victims of domestic violence and care leavers.'

I agree with DV victims, those with children, care leavers : veterans are also at high risk of homelessness. But why prioritise married couples over single people? I'm not convinced that's fair. I assume it's to encourage marriage which is a good aim but I'm not convinced if this is the right decision.

Also you cannot have tiered citizenship. That's a feature of the worst regimes out there. Either you're a citizen and enjoy equal rights or you're not.

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:28

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:25

Nope. Social housing isn't subsidised.

A man with no job is given a home and pays less than a 100 a week for it out of his UC. Gets everything fixed for him. It’s obviously subsidised somewhere along the line despite council tenants insisting it’s not. Can’t really be bothered to argue this particular point tbh

JenniferBooth · 25/08/2026 15:26

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:19

There what is? Are you going to private rented then? Seeing as you have it so bad and are so hot and sweaty and convinced non council homes didn’t get hot this summer? Should be worth the 3-4x rent increase right

I didnt say non council homes didnt get hot Stop gaslighting

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:26

Dontcallmescarface · 25/08/2026 15:24

Ah I see this thread has gone the same way as every other thread regarding social housing. Honestly, aren't you all bored of spouting the same old arguments Every.Fucking.Time?

Never! Not when someone is wrong on the internet!

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:25

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:20

A man who dosent work living in a place he got after laying down no deposit and only paying less than a 100 a week in the south east.
Someone’s subsidising it 😂

Nope. Social housing isn't subsidised.

Dontcallmescarface · 25/08/2026 15:24

Ah I see this thread has gone the same way as every other thread regarding social housing. Honestly, aren't you all bored of spouting the same old arguments Every.Fucking.Time?

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:20

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:16

Social rents aren't subsidised.

A man who dosent work living in a place he got after laying down no deposit and only paying less than a 100 a week in the south east.
Someone’s subsidising it 😂

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:19

JenniferBooth · 25/08/2026 15:16

And THERE it is

There what is? Are you going to private rented then? Seeing as you have it so bad and are so hot and sweaty and convinced non council homes didn’t get hot this summer? Should be worth the 3-4x rent increase right

ClarkeandNewman · 25/08/2026 15:16

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:14

As they should, private renters typically have less disposable income than council dwellers because their rents higher. That means less money for sorting things out themselves little things like buying tumble dryers instead of hanging clothes everywhere which causes damp. Etc

I only ever see council people bitching they have it harder than everyone else and acting like all owners and private renters are rich. Instead of appreciating their cheap rent if it’s that bad come live privately without having us subsidise your rent

Social rents aren't subsidised.

JenniferBooth · 25/08/2026 15:16

Samanthapiggles · 25/08/2026 15:14

As they should, private renters typically have less disposable income than council dwellers because their rents higher. That means less money for sorting things out themselves little things like buying tumble dryers instead of hanging clothes everywhere which causes damp. Etc

I only ever see council people bitching they have it harder than everyone else and acting like all owners and private renters are rich. Instead of appreciating their cheap rent if it’s that bad come live privately without having us subsidise your rent

And THERE it is

JHound · 25/08/2026 15:16

oldwhyno · 24/08/2026 17:09

Devils advocate, but two people make better use of a one bedroom flat than a single person.

But single people need to live somewhere and are better suited to one beds than families of 2+ people.

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