To leave holiday early even if it will upset my dd?

This is about the most sensible post I have read

The ward should have the ability to take a phone/tablet to your son if his father can't take him his mobile and charger. Unless he's too unwell to use a mobile phone this should be the first step. Or there might be a bedside entertainment system that includes a direct phone line you could call him on.

So if your son wants to speak to you it should be possible to arrange that.

I don't know what you can usefully do by travelling home now that you can't do by phone / email/ video call from where you are.

If you read the treatment guidelines for DKA it's meant to improve quickly with the right treatment so by the time you travel home he should be much better anyway.

A levels can be re-sat. Alternative Further Education courses are available. The hospital diabetes team should be able to support his mental health/ help streamline his diabetes management.

There are support organisations for men experiencing domestic abuse - a woman claiming to be pregnant when she's not is pretty abusive. They may be able to help him escape her.

My experience is that they will make an exception for a vulnerable young adult.

So basically to help feed patients if necessary

Sils inlaw is in hospital now and the visiting is only 12-1 and 6-7pm. No exceptions on that ward apparently.

Well when I was in for 5 weeks no one was allowed in before 2pm. And only 2 at a bed

In reality there's a lot more flexibility then you would suggest. My fil has just been in gor a week and we've had someone with him each morning to catch the ward round, despite visiting hours not starting til 2pm.

When I was in hospital a few years back, the elderly Somali lady next to me had a daughter with her 24/7 to comfort her and translate.

From early afternoon yeah. Not like paeds ward where parents can stay 24/7.

Hence the comment about him being an adult

In my experience most hospitals have open visiting from early afternoon until evening. The only restriction is the numbers of visitors to a bed. My own DH was in ICU for a time and even there apart from a quiet hour in the afternoons, visiting wasn’t restricted. And OP is his mother. DKA is life threatening and can deteriorate rapidly and unexpectedly during treatment, so telling her not to come home because he’s safe in hospital isn’t necessarily the best advice.

I’m shocked at the number of posters who don’t seem to understand how serious DKA is, despite the explanations from those of us with experience. And the cause often determines the outcome - underlying infections can be deadly - simple UTI’s, chest infections, stomach bugs and even the flu can all release cortisol/adrenaline which can block insulin and cause DKA.

It’s treated with rapid infusion of insulin and other fluids to clear the ketones, and then dextrose is added to ensure blood glucose doesn’t plummet while the insulin does it’s job, and during treatment the condition is unstable and can deteriorate rapidly if complications arise, and even due to elements of the treatment itself. So those posters telling OP her DS is safe in hospital and there’s no need for her to cut the holiday short really don’t know what they’re talking about.

The main point is that OP has jumped to the conclusion that he has deliberately put himself into DKA, yet nothing else she has said supports the assertion that that was his intent. (Though even if it was, that still isn't quite the same as suicidal intent).

But it wasent just too much sugar a lot of Diabetics find it dificult to stay in range for many reasons but this can be corrected with insulin if too high or glucose if too low
If hes deliberatley put himself into DKA i would be very concerned about his mental state

How are you doing today @ChiefArk , and how is your son?

Yes I understand that his life was at risk. But no, having too much sugar, even deliberately, is not necessarily a suicide attempt. There are all sorts of reasons why diabetics do not always adhere to the restrictive diets they need to for their health and safety. And all sorts of mental states that contribute to that that are not suicidal.

It's legality that counts in adult spaces though. He will have same visiting rules as every other adult on his ward Can you imagine the chaos if everyone wanted exceptions

Which can be a world away from an adult emotionally, especially when you’re struggling to cope with a health condition which, going by some of the responses here, is still poorly understood and attracting of a fair amount of ignorant judgement.

Well first of your.making out he only had a few to many sweets
Do you understand that DKA which he was in is a life threatening condtion ?
If hes done it deleberatley thsn yes its a suicide attempt he will know it can lead to death

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. I specifically said I wasn't down playing the physical risk. I was pointing out that suicide is about intent and asking why her thoughts went to it being suicide.

OP, every T1D thread I've read on Mumsnet has been piled on by people with no clue about the disease - they post the most hurtful, inaccurate and cruel responses.

There is some really kind and considered advice from those who understand T1D on this thread - just read those posts, and please, please ignore the nasty comments.

We can only hope that those posters never have to experience a disease like T1D themselves. Their ignorance and cruelty is staggering.

They have not asked you to leave, the crisis is being managed so you can stay. He will have lapses , for all sorts of reasons, and needs to be aware and learn to accept help.

I had a poorly sibling growing up, who took up a lot of attention from my parents. I would never have reacted the way your DD has. I understood how difficult it was for them to keep her safe.

I feel for you OP.

I knew a 25 yo T1D staff nurse, ICU trained, who went on one alcoholic binge too many. He was unable to be resuscitated this last time. RIP xxxxx. All the ignorant posters on this thread dismissing this as attention-seeking need to wise up, as does OP's sister

Stay. He’s 18. Has a parent and safe at hospital

he needs to understand more about his D and how to manage it and at 18 needs to be able to do this

but def call /facetime him daily

also suprised the boys didn’t want to away abroad at 15/18

I get the 15 staying with dad but why did the 18 need to

This lad is 18 so a legal adult

He wss in DKA its life threatening wether he intended to put himself in DKA or not its more thsn just having a few sweets and is blood sugars shooting up!