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At the end of my tether with under eye issues, not sure what else to use or can be done

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Redruby2020 · 24/08/2026 10:57

So I have posted on here before about this but it was more to do with appearance of eyes. I know that age and lots of stress etc has had an impact.
But since this year, I am not sure if it even started before this year.
Over time this under eye issue has developed/got worse, I have been to the GP, and they then asked me to go to the minor eye clinic, checked all fine, they said it was a skin issue and the GP needed to look in to it further. Went to see a GO again, useless, just basically in a round about way saying you just have to live with it.

So it’s basically the left side, gets swollen on the outer side of under eyelid, red, dry, itchy. Looks almost red/purple ish at times. You can see quite a difference. Almost like you could think I got hit in the face.
Previously I thought it was from possibly getting hairspray in my eye/it falling on that area.
And then different eye creams etc. Which some of the ingredients in these creams will have probably irritated things.

I use the same mascara I have used for years, and the pink Garnier Miceller to remove it.

I have gone back to more basic eye creams. But now only using Epimax eye ointment as it was recommended by a pharmacist. I am now not sure if even that has made it redder.
I now see a bit of it on the right eye, and eyelids just above are getting red and dry.

I think some of this is due to stress if I’m honest. Which has been unavoidable to an extent. Hoping some things will improve now, but still not near the end of the added stressors.

I wonder if my pillow is also worsening things, I changed it this year, not very good. Hoping there is nothing in that causing any allergy, also I do find it uncomfortable, and it may be causing some swelling around the eyes, although I guess this can happen anyway when you wake up in the morning, especially in 40’s, and I’m thinking depending on diet etc too.

I did return to the GP recently and was booked in with a Paramedic of all people, they do this now, instead of booking you with a doctor. They actually seem to be better and do more as I found out before.
And they booked me on the service pathway with Dermatology, which is quicker as you get a video/telephone call so you are not having to wait to be seen, and I guess from there they will assess whether I need to be seen further.

But any advice or similar experiences will be gladly accepted.

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EvelynBeatrice · 27/08/2026 12:55

I had something similar last year! Think I had developed an allergy to my best selling brand cheapie eye make up remover. I switched to Bioderma micellar water which seemed to solve the problem. But it was horrible while it lasted. I do wonder about the brands where the lid is not sealed or tamper proofed.

mrsmalcolmreynolds · 27/08/2026 12:51

I have upper lid blepharitis and it is generally under control with cleaning twice daily using blephasol solution (I find the gels too fiddly) and a blepharitis eye foam from Boots that I use in the shower so the heat hopefully also helps the oil glands work a bit better.

Zuve · 27/08/2026 12:40

This form of blepharitis is called interior blepharitis and causes depend on your age. There is no quick answers. Cleaning is a must and best done with natural soaps etc. I use olive oil soap. Firstly, go to amazon and get Optase Cleanse and protect. Amazon is artificially intelligent and can guide you. The Cleanse and protect lasts for a week. This will reduce bacteria in the eye lid area. Then soap your hands and wash face and closed eyelids twice a day. Heat can help but is fiddly. I you have a bath then you can droop a hot face flannel over the eyes daily. Use optase wipes afterwards. Use comfort eye drops four times a day and gradually it should get better xxx

autumncrumbling · 27/08/2026 12:21

Do you have any menopause specialist gps or centres in your area? Ask to see someone who is the hrt expert in the practice. We have one GP that specialises in it near me who is good.

Redruby2020 · 27/08/2026 12:17

autumncrumbling · 26/08/2026 13:34

I’ve got an eye mask from boots I heat in the microwave that the optician recommended. itchy skin can be due to declining levels of oestrogen affecting collagen - it’s been really noticeable for me. Think HRT patches would stabilised and top up the levels that’s what I meant.

i tend to think with skin you’ve got topical treatments and then the underlying cause - hormone imbalance etc. I have no medical qualifications whatsoever it’s only my experience of this. Of course the pmt swings etc of peri can also lead me to over consume sugar too.

Yes I agree re the Oestrogen. I would like more help with this, it’s getting further with the GP I am struggling with, but will keep trying.

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Redruby2020 · 27/08/2026 12:16

Millytante · 25/08/2026 17:26

You need to get on top of the skincare ingredients issue, above all.
(I flinched when you said you used that Rose Micellar Water to remove eye makeup, for example)
Every product you buy has the ingredients listed on it, and once you identify the main offenders re reactive skin, you’ll be an adept in no time.

The information is easily found online, in varying degrees of detail, but as a matter of urgency, strike out any product containing sodium laurel sulphate/SLS, perfume and essential oils, and urea. Loads of other things can set a person off but these are main offenders.
(Watch out too for alcohol: if the word appears alone, as merely ‘alcohol’, then it’ll be drying at the very least and is never used in the most beneficial skincare ranges. Alcohol will appear in other forms though, often as a neutral wax, and non-irritating. These will have a prefix such as ‘butyl alcohol’, and they are fine)
Parafin/mineral oil: it wasn’t til I abandoned this in skincare many decades ago that my skin really healed for good from hyper-reactivity. In itself, it’s harmless stuff but it also prevents any good bring transmitted or absorbed, as it just sits atop the skin.
Silicones: dimethicone is in many moisturisers and it too just sits there as a film, serving only to feel silky to the touch. I see it as a (harmless) total waste of space, and prefer ingredients which can actually do some good! These are plants. Botanical is best, in my experience.)

But here and now you want to halt irritation, introduce calming, and generally treat your skin extremely gently.
I’d try brilliant Balmond’s products (Boots has them), or the Trilogy Gentle range, and the HyloForte range of moisturising eyedrops is terrific.
You can buy eyelid wipes for blepharitis which will soothe a lot, or just swipe with original Optrex on cotton wool.

The important thing is to stop using stuff you haven't scrutinised for potential irritants, given this bad reactivity, and wait while things return to normal. (Wont be long) Skin likes calm and gentle, and repairs itself well. keep everything perfectly clean of course, and never use biological washing powder on your bedlinen, as its ferociously irritating. (Does sound like a bit of irritation was allowed to pick up a little infection via a mascara brush, or a pillowcase for example)

Steroid cream, the low dose OTC type, is useful but not near the eyes, and only ever very rarely. Soothing drops will help your eyes (and you can also use eyebright tincture on your tongue)

Hi, thankyou for your reply which has lots of useful information and things to consider, and what to look at excluding.
I use the Garnier pink top miceller water, so the original one, fragrance free it’s supposed to be for sensitive/dry skin. Not the rose one, no j wouldn’t use that one on the eye area. Even though I think all of the many miceller waters that Garnier sells, says suitable to use on eyes.

Didn’t think about using things like Optrex that’s a great idea, I have used drops but own brand you know you get ones for various ones, tired eyes, dry eyes etc.
So when would this be used, where you mentioned putting on a cotton odd and wiping over. Would this be a daily thing and when.

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autumncrumbling · 26/08/2026 13:34

I’ve got an eye mask from boots I heat in the microwave that the optician recommended. itchy skin can be due to declining levels of oestrogen affecting collagen - it’s been really noticeable for me. Think HRT patches would stabilised and top up the levels that’s what I meant.

i tend to think with skin you’ve got topical treatments and then the underlying cause - hormone imbalance etc. I have no medical qualifications whatsoever it’s only my experience of this. Of course the pmt swings etc of peri can also lead me to over consume sugar too.

Millytante · 25/08/2026 17:26

You need to get on top of the skincare ingredients issue, above all.
(I flinched when you said you used that Rose Micellar Water to remove eye makeup, for example)
Every product you buy has the ingredients listed on it, and once you identify the main offenders re reactive skin, you’ll be an adept in no time.

The information is easily found online, in varying degrees of detail, but as a matter of urgency, strike out any product containing sodium laurel sulphate/SLS, perfume and essential oils, and urea. Loads of other things can set a person off but these are main offenders.
(Watch out too for alcohol: if the word appears alone, as merely ‘alcohol’, then it’ll be drying at the very least and is never used in the most beneficial skincare ranges. Alcohol will appear in other forms though, often as a neutral wax, and non-irritating. These will have a prefix such as ‘butyl alcohol’, and they are fine)
Parafin/mineral oil: it wasn’t til I abandoned this in skincare many decades ago that my skin really healed for good from hyper-reactivity. In itself, it’s harmless stuff but it also prevents any good bring transmitted or absorbed, as it just sits atop the skin.
Silicones: dimethicone is in many moisturisers and it too just sits there as a film, serving only to feel silky to the touch. I see it as a (harmless) total waste of space, and prefer ingredients which can actually do some good! These are plants. Botanical is best, in my experience.)

But here and now you want to halt irritation, introduce calming, and generally treat your skin extremely gently.
I’d try brilliant Balmond’s products (Boots has them), or the Trilogy Gentle range, and the HyloForte range of moisturising eyedrops is terrific.
You can buy eyelid wipes for blepharitis which will soothe a lot, or just swipe with original Optrex on cotton wool.

The important thing is to stop using stuff you haven't scrutinised for potential irritants, given this bad reactivity, and wait while things return to normal. (Wont be long) Skin likes calm and gentle, and repairs itself well. keep everything perfectly clean of course, and never use biological washing powder on your bedlinen, as its ferociously irritating. (Does sound like a bit of irritation was allowed to pick up a little infection via a mascara brush, or a pillowcase for example)

Steroid cream, the low dose OTC type, is useful but not near the eyes, and only ever very rarely. Soothing drops will help your eyes (and you can also use eyebright tincture on your tongue)

Comtesse · 25/08/2026 14:38

Yes sounds like blepharitis to me (but am not a dr). My eyes get sore, can’t tolerate contacts any more, eyelashes have thinned and can get styes more often. There are treatments that can improve this.

Redruby2020 · 25/08/2026 14:34

YourLilacLurker · 24/08/2026 13:54

Do you have gel nails? It took me 8 months and 5 different doctors to figure out I had an allergy to BIAB which caused my eyes to flare.

Unfortunately, it didn’t clear up completely overnight once I had the polish removed, I was so fed up I paid to see a private dermatologist because the NHS pathway would take at least a year. They prescribed Protopic which is non-steroid, which has helped a lot but basically, once the allergy surfaces you can become sensitive to other things you may have previously had a tolerance to. It will cost ££££ to do a complete allergy panel so at the moment I’m slowly reintroducing products.

Also keep an eye out for products containing phenoxyethanol, it can make eczema worse and it’s in a lot of make up.

I feel for you, it is awful

Thankyou 🙏 no i don’t have gel nails. I also agree that once it starts it can just escalate and everything upsets it. This is what is happening with me too I think.

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Breadcat24 · 25/08/2026 14:33

@Redruby2020 Had something similar, saw an eye specialist and had operations for dry eye to correct no effect. only thing that worked was taking a daily tablet of doxycycline and washing eyelids and lashes morning and evening with baby shampoo.

Redruby2020 · 25/08/2026 14:32

smallglassbottle · 24/08/2026 13:31

I can't hardly use anything on my face as it affects my eyes. I wash with a facial bar soap and apply a moisturiser and that's it, no makeup at all. I take 120mg of Fexofenadine each day and eye drops for a flare up.

It might be worth putting some antihistamine eye drops in and checking that your eyelashes aren't growing inwards. They can do this for you at Specsavers. Some eyelashes are so small that you can't actually see them growing inwards.

Make sure you clean your eyelids every day using a blepharitis gel, a warm flannel and then rinsing the gel off. Stop using if it irritates and just use the flannel and water if it does.

Is this for top and bottom lids? I don’t think I would be able to use the gel, perhaps if it does not sting it will be okay, where do you get yours from. Also which facial bar are you using.

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Redruby2020 · 25/08/2026 14:30

Millytante · 24/08/2026 14:04

‘Ruby was a pretty girl, but Ruby is no more
For what she thought was H2O was H2SO4’

I think (hope) you meant hyaluronic acid……🙏🏻

🤣

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Redruby2020 · 25/08/2026 14:29

blackcatlove · 24/08/2026 13:40

‘Paramedic of all people’ wow!! Just wow!! That’s how you speak about the health care professional that’s got you on the dermatology pathway.

Text does not help how you want to say things. I meant it as in of all the people, meaning a GP could not do this, and that the Paramedic did a better job! Yes and very greatful!

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Redruby2020 · 25/08/2026 14:25

MrsMaudeLebowski · 24/08/2026 13:29

I've had blepharitis - swollen sore upper eyelids for a few years that would come and go. I now have to keep my eye area really clean- I use a saline solution to wipe my eyes every night and when I feel it flaring up I'll use a cotton bud dipped in saline to clean my waterline. I also feel that eating too much sugar brings it on. Hope this might be of some help.

Sugar could certainly be making a difference as that is my downfall. I’m not sure about using the saline doesn’t that have salt in? I’m having to be careful because things are stinging and burning that I put around my eyes.

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Redruby2020 · 25/08/2026 14:23

autumncrumbling · 24/08/2026 13:28

also optician last time I went in said to use a heated mask on eyes to dissovle stuck glands for something called blepharitis - assume it’s not that?
does heat help?

I don’t think it is, when I have had it checked no one thought it was. I will be having my routine eye test soon, so I will mention everything then.
I’m not sure if heat helps to be honest. I haven’t really tried anything. What kind of mask did you use.

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Redruby2020 · 25/08/2026 14:20

autumncrumbling · 24/08/2026 13:24

Agree with all advice re spf, tubing mascara etc - wanted to add, mid 40s on I’ve found peri has really dried out and itched my skin, I’ve had random rashes, eczema like it’s much more reactive than before, it drinks oil, moisturiser etc after a lifetime of being combi. Have you checked the HRT side of things?

Hi, thankyou for your comment, yes I am wondering what part of it is to with 40’s and anything peri menopausal wise.
When you ask that though, in what particular way do you mean. I am still waiting for help with this from the GP, they just fobbed me off.

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Millytante · 24/08/2026 14:04

newrubylane · 24/08/2026 14:00

It does sound like blepharitis. Look along the lash line for little white spots that show clogged follicles. With me it's my top lashes and I get a gritty sensation in my eyes, and then the skin around it gets sorted of crinkly and makes me look years older. Keeping you eye area clean is the best bet. No make up or product at all when you're flaring. Ive had good result from hydrochloric acid spray for eye irritation generally (hayfever symptoms as well as dry eyes etc ) . I've heard some recommendations for cleaning the lash line regularly with baby shampooo. Have you tried stopping with the eye cream altogether?

‘Ruby was a pretty girl, but Ruby is no more
For what she thought was H2O was H2SO4’

I think (hope) you meant hyaluronic acid……🙏🏻

newrubylane · 24/08/2026 14:00

It does sound like blepharitis. Look along the lash line for little white spots that show clogged follicles. With me it's my top lashes and I get a gritty sensation in my eyes, and then the skin around it gets sorted of crinkly and makes me look years older. Keeping you eye area clean is the best bet. No make up or product at all when you're flaring. Ive had good result from hydrochloric acid spray for eye irritation generally (hayfever symptoms as well as dry eyes etc ) . I've heard some recommendations for cleaning the lash line regularly with baby shampooo. Have you tried stopping with the eye cream altogether?

YourLilacLurker · 24/08/2026 13:54

Do you have gel nails? It took me 8 months and 5 different doctors to figure out I had an allergy to BIAB which caused my eyes to flare.

Unfortunately, it didn’t clear up completely overnight once I had the polish removed, I was so fed up I paid to see a private dermatologist because the NHS pathway would take at least a year. They prescribed Protopic which is non-steroid, which has helped a lot but basically, once the allergy surfaces you can become sensitive to other things you may have previously had a tolerance to. It will cost ££££ to do a complete allergy panel so at the moment I’m slowly reintroducing products.

Also keep an eye out for products containing phenoxyethanol, it can make eczema worse and it’s in a lot of make up.

I feel for you, it is awful

GreenFootstool · 24/08/2026 13:50

blackcatlove · 24/08/2026 13:40

‘Paramedic of all people’ wow!! Just wow!! That’s how you speak about the health care professional that’s got you on the dermatology pathway.

Tbh I agree with OP - paramedics are not the right people to be dealing with a LOT of the issues taking people to a GP surgery.

The surgery-based physiotherapist made a referral to a orthopaedic consultant for my hip problems without me ever seeing a doctor for it in a year.

I'm not grateful, because it should have been done months before that because I was fobbed off with exercise for what turns out to be hip dysplasia, arthritis and trochanteric bursitis, none of which was suspected by the physio and the referral only submitted because I wanted to see a doctor.

Loulou4022 · 24/08/2026 13:48

GreenFootstool · 24/08/2026 13:47

Do you have anything on your nails?

Acrylate allergies frequently show up on the eyes because of cross contamination after having nails done whether with gel polish or acrylics etc.

How old is all your make up? Might be time to chuck it all and start afresh. Including brushes.

Washing your hair over the bath could result in suds on your face for longer than in a shower.

The Cerave SA wash is deliberately made with lots of acids - that's extremely harsh to use on profoundly damaged skin. Switch to a less aggressive option for your face.

Ooo yes nail varnish is another thing I react to 🙄 Have to use ones that are 5 free.

Loulou4022 · 24/08/2026 13:48

Redruby2020 · 24/08/2026 13:27

Yes I have heard good things about those mascara’s. Where do you get that eye makeup remover from.
Yes I think going forward I will have to be careful with eye creams. Which is annoying as i can’t then use some of the ones I would like to, and for anti aging, darkness etc.
Yes the Avene water is good used to get that from time to time, many years ago now, when it was cheaper.

Glad to hear things have not flared up for a long time, it’s horrible, and affecting my confidence and anxiety etc. As I am conscious people can see it of course.

I’m sure I got the eye make up remover from Boots in the eye care section with the eye drops and eye washes but Amazon do it too. Optase is an eye product company they do drops and eye lid wipes so I trust them more than cosmetic companies.
I find while the eye creams aren’t I use aren’t anti aging I do find they help with dark circles and lines as they’re helping my eyelids and under eye stay hydrated and not irritated. I’ve got to the point now if I have to scroll to read ingredients I don’t buy. A lot of the anti aging creams have lots of ingredients so it’s hard to know what causing the reaction. Fragrance is another ingredient I avoid as that seems to irritate!

GreenFootstool · 24/08/2026 13:47

Do you have anything on your nails?

Acrylate allergies frequently show up on the eyes because of cross contamination after having nails done whether with gel polish or acrylics etc.

How old is all your make up? Might be time to chuck it all and start afresh. Including brushes.

Washing your hair over the bath could result in suds on your face for longer than in a shower.

The Cerave SA wash is deliberately made with lots of acids - that's extremely harsh to use on profoundly damaged skin. Switch to a less aggressive option for your face.

blackcatlove · 24/08/2026 13:40

‘Paramedic of all people’ wow!! Just wow!! That’s how you speak about the health care professional that’s got you on the dermatology pathway.

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