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How can reckless teenage driving be prevented?

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UncleColm · 24/08/2026 10:31

We had that terrible crash recently in the UK which resulted in 7 deaths - RIP to the two Police Officers who were on duty.

In Ireland we had a very similar crash the previous week where five boys died - aged 15 to 17. All were wearing balaclavas at the time of the crash and were 'well known' to Guards. The family they crashed into were three sisters and a seven year old son of one of the sisters (on the way to the airport go to a family wedding) - they are all still in hospital and are very seriously injured.

The previous week, in Ireland, a car carrying eight teenage boys aged from as young as 13 crashed into a car being driven in the correct direction by one young man who is now seriously injured.

The boys seem to be from a mix of poor areas and Travellers. In death they are being celebrated by their families but where were these families when they were alive? Who lets their teenage boy out all night? And let's them produce tiktoks of their 'exploits'? Parental supervision is clearly not in place.

How can this reckless driving behaviour be stopped?

In Ireland there is a huge shortage of jail spaces and places to detain a child under 18. These kids couldn't care less if the Guards catch them - sure what's another Juvenile Caution to them? One of the boys who died was supposed to stay in his own County but had ignored it. They have no fear of the Guards or the law.

I work in a school and there is a huge amount of help available to Traveller children in particular but they still tend to not engage with any after school activities, don't do homework, don't go on school trips, leave school early, high absence rate, etc.

I read recently that, in Ireland, 50% of Travellers don't live beyond 39. In 2026 this a shocking statistic. I don't know what the statistics are for the poor, disadvantaged areas but I do know that the taxpayers provide Social Housing, child benefit, medical cards, free education, free school books and hot lunches, back to school allowances and a whole other host of allowances. There are many initiatives available to help people to stay in education and gain independence.

What more can be done? Is there any way of reaching these young males?

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EasternStandard · 24/08/2026 11:48

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This is so limiting for law abiding young drivers. They will have similar requirements to older people.

On the Tik Tok mention below are the perpetrators as likely to do this stuff without the content part

Phonkk · 24/08/2026 11:47

SonaliS · 24/08/2026 11:42

Make it illegal to be the registered keeper (owner) of a car until you are 21.

It would be simple to require all cars to be fitted with a fingerprint unlock device before the ignition of a car could be completed. The fingerprint recognition could be on the Start button for example. You could connect this to an app, similar to how my iPhone is alerted when my dd16 wants to download an app and I have to give permission (or deny it). You might also be able to provide a blanket permission eg between 8.30am and 5.30pm weekdays, allow the young person to travel to work.

This would mean that cars could not be driven by young people who decided to borrow a parents’ car without express permission.

Then I think the icing on the cake is to make the car owner legally responsible for any crimes committed in the car by any person under the age of 21.

So then it’s up to the adult/owner to decide if a young person is allowed to drive the car.

99% of the population aren’t driving the wrong way down the road in a stolen car why go to all this effort to make life harder for everyone else? Some of us had kids of our own younger than that.
These boys would have been cunts before they did this and it went unpunished when they would of been put in borstals back in the day. Borstals definitely need bring back

MrsMurphyIWish · 24/08/2026 11:47

LillyPeaceFlowerSun · 24/08/2026 11:45

That may be so, but it means if the police see a young person in a car that doesn’t meet the legal requirements they can intervene before there is an issue.

I think you underestimate how many officers are in the streets at all times. Last week there was an active robbery in my area - someone posted the video to the local fb page because they had called 999 and were on hold.

Moros · 24/08/2026 11:47

SonaliS · 24/08/2026 11:42

Make it illegal to be the registered keeper (owner) of a car until you are 21.

It would be simple to require all cars to be fitted with a fingerprint unlock device before the ignition of a car could be completed. The fingerprint recognition could be on the Start button for example. You could connect this to an app, similar to how my iPhone is alerted when my dd16 wants to download an app and I have to give permission (or deny it). You might also be able to provide a blanket permission eg between 8.30am and 5.30pm weekdays, allow the young person to travel to work.

This would mean that cars could not be driven by young people who decided to borrow a parents’ car without express permission.

Then I think the icing on the cake is to make the car owner legally responsible for any crimes committed in the car by any person under the age of 21.

So then it’s up to the adult/owner to decide if a young person is allowed to drive the car.

These scrotes aren't borrowing their parents' cars. They're stealing them.

dustabsorber · 24/08/2026 11:47

Facial recognition technology. The car won't start if you aren't authorised or don't have a licence or isn't insured. Car starts to slow down if speed limit exceeded. Convicted drink drivers have to blow into a box once they get their licence back.

LillyPeaceFlowerSun · 24/08/2026 11:45

Shatenoeuf · 24/08/2026 11:41

I think this kind of legislation is the way forward.

The kind of people who do this stuff will break whatever rules you make anyway. If you are from a family or community who don't respect authority, you are going to be less likely generally to respect rules & abide by them.

That may be so, but it means if the police see a young person in a car that doesn’t meet the legal requirements they can intervene before there is an issue.

SonaliS · 24/08/2026 11:42

Make it illegal to be the registered keeper (owner) of a car until you are 21.

It would be simple to require all cars to be fitted with a fingerprint unlock device before the ignition of a car could be completed. The fingerprint recognition could be on the Start button for example. You could connect this to an app, similar to how my iPhone is alerted when my dd16 wants to download an app and I have to give permission (or deny it). You might also be able to provide a blanket permission eg between 8.30am and 5.30pm weekdays, allow the young person to travel to work.

This would mean that cars could not be driven by young people who decided to borrow a parents’ car without express permission.

Then I think the icing on the cake is to make the car owner legally responsible for any crimes committed in the car by any person under the age of 21.

So then it’s up to the adult/owner to decide if a young person is allowed to drive the car.

Shatenoeuf · 24/08/2026 11:41

I think this kind of legislation is the way forward.

The kind of people who do this stuff will break whatever rules you make anyway. If you are from a family or community who don't respect authority, you are going to be less likely generally to respect rules & abide by them.

RumNotRun · 24/08/2026 11:39

From what I have read about the UK case, the police did stop chasing them. The police car that was hit was going the correct way on the motorway looking for the car.

Edit: spelling

EasternStandard · 24/08/2026 11:39

dustabsorber · 24/08/2026 11:19

Lefty Green's latest idea, ban the police from having tazers

Concerning stuff.

LillyPeaceFlowerSun · 24/08/2026 11:38

LadyGAgain · 24/08/2026 10:43

Dash cams non negotiable
under 21 men cannot carry passengers after dark (or at all)
newly qualified drivers are not allowed cars over 1 litre for the first xx years.
as above, no modifications allowed on cars to engine etc until all drivers are over 25.

I think this kind of legislation is the way forward. Based on research (that in adolescence - before the frontal cortex is finished fully developing mid twenties) we are more likely to make risky decisions if we are with our peers, some states in the USA don’t allow you to carry passengers until a certain age. I don’t know the impact it’s had but it makes sense to put in legislation to scaffold safety until the risks are lower.

How to better support communities that are so resistant to outside help - I have no idea.

OhBotherSaidPoo · 24/08/2026 11:30

All new cars need to be fitted with speed limiters. The tech is there and there is absolutely no need for any modern car to be able to bomb it down 100mph on a dual carriageway.
Road policing needs to make a comeback. Thanks to austerity, whole units of road police were disbanded, and you can really tell. The standard of driving on today's roads are appalling.
Tougher sentences on driving offences, kill someone in a car and its a slap on the wrist.
Social media need to have a blanket ban on accounts that glorify or promote criminal behaviour.
Yes this will all cost money, money we do not have. So nothing will change.

iwishtoo · 24/08/2026 11:28

Shatenoeuf · 24/08/2026 11:19

Parental authority/respect for teachers & police/obedience with rules has to be ingrained ien people from an early age. By the time a child is old enough to stop wanting to please parents & has their own view on things, its too late.

Often the children & teens who break big rules (eg driving without license etc) see parents openly flout rules through their childhood - parking on double yellows, sneaking into places or without paying. The same parents often flout social rules so will tolerate homework being skipped, take term time holidays, let DC break school rules on uniform & hairstyles. All these things teach DC that if you dont like rules its ok to break them.

This. There are parents who are not parenting, instead they want to be their child's best friend. In the school I work in CCTV was installed last year. You can only imagine the amount of time it has saved. Being able to show parents what their child has done - all permissions are in place etc. - has saved hours of parent meetings where the parent repeatedly insists that their child would not do what multiple witnesses have seen them do. And yes, we offer lots of parenting support but parents who have unparented children do not want to engage in the support offered.

CuteOrangeElephant · 24/08/2026 11:25

Loulou4022 · 24/08/2026 11:21

What is that something???

Lock them up, crush their cars, I don't really care but I am so sick of the first response to a minority of people doing something wrong is to start restricting the rights of everyone else.

Assuming the driver of the car was one of the two 23 year olds, not being allowed to drive peers around means not being allowed to drive with a partner/girlfriend and children? I've seen people suggest nighttime restrictions so that means you can't be 23 years old and have a job with nighttime shifts or early/late starts? Surely that's not right.

Monty36 · 24/08/2026 11:24

The social media that they use to get clicks on and therefore make money out of should be held accountable.
They should not allow such videos on their sites.
They want to be self policing. But cannot police themselves. If they could this sort of trend for reckless driving would not prevail. They would not allow the video on their site. They are incapable of policing themselves.

There are groups in society that have no regard for the law. They do not get to be treated differently to everyone else. It is as simple as that really.
Be it not sending children to school, not paying taxes. Anything.

Loulou4022 · 24/08/2026 11:21

CuteOrangeElephant · 24/08/2026 11:20

Something that doesn't penalise people who behave responsibly by placing heavy restrictions on them that the minority that it is meant to affect will disregard anyway!

What is that something???

CuteOrangeElephant · 24/08/2026 11:20

Loulou4022 · 24/08/2026 11:12

Peers are very different to carrying your own child. What do you suggest then?? Because this current situation cannot be allowed to continue!

Something that doesn't penalise people who behave responsibly by placing heavy restrictions on them that the minority that it is meant to affect will disregard anyway!

Shatenoeuf · 24/08/2026 11:19

Parental authority/respect for teachers & police/obedience with rules has to be ingrained ien people from an early age. By the time a child is old enough to stop wanting to please parents & has their own view on things, its too late.

Often the children & teens who break big rules (eg driving without license etc) see parents openly flout rules through their childhood - parking on double yellows, sneaking into places or without paying. The same parents often flout social rules so will tolerate homework being skipped, take term time holidays, let DC break school rules on uniform & hairstyles. All these things teach DC that if you dont like rules its ok to break them.

dustabsorber · 24/08/2026 11:19

Lefty Green's latest idea, ban the police from having tazers

HoppingPavlova · 24/08/2026 11:16

dustabsorber · 24/08/2026 11:14

Establish a penal colony somewhere and dump them there for good. Might seem harsh, but 100 of them are not worth the life of a decent copper.

Hilariously, I write to you from Australia🤣🤣🤣

ETA we have the same issue here.

GreyCarpet · 24/08/2026 11:16

Gall10 · 24/08/2026 11:08

Sounds sensible…but surely saying ‘men’ should just say ‘people’

It's also impractical.

My daughter recently passed her test. She's 20. Her car has a 1 litre engine, she has insurance with a black box etc.

But she's going back to university 200 miles away in a few weeks and needs to take the car with her. I'll be going up with her as her passenger because she'd rather not do the journey alone for the first time.

Loulou4022 · 24/08/2026 11:15

ConflictofInterest · 24/08/2026 11:01

I think they should stop the police chases. A lot of these crashes involve the police chasing them. There needs to be a safer way of tracking their identity than chasing them at high speed. The punishment is usually very minor for driving crimes so it never justifies a high speed chase that risks lives. Maybe drones that follow them or better camera technology on the roads.

So every youth is able to just go haring around the county at 100mph and no intervention??

Dollymylove · 24/08/2026 11:15

I dont know how we can reverse the decline in respect for authority, its been slowly coming apart for the past 30+ years.
The breakdown of the traditional family.
Single motherhood. The lack of strong father figures. The acceptance of smoking weed/drugs. Generations of families on benefits.
Parents/teachers no longer permitted to discipline wayward children and put them back on the right track.
The lack of visible policing. Soft sentences meted out in courts.
The huge rise in ADHD. ( Never heard of it 20 years ago)
Add a generous splash of social media, give it a stir and this is the result

paomara · 24/08/2026 11:15

I have to laugh at the suggestions of limiting passengers and other rules. Does anyone think these boys would observe that or any rule really, if they are prepared to put lives in danger including their own?

Forget about softly softly, these guys are hardened criminals and don't give a shit about authority or anyone else for that matter. Drink and drug taking is a big part of it.

Lock them up. Who cares if the door is revolving, at least for the time they are inside they are not a danger to anyone.

Bleeding hearts can go that way >>>>

dustabsorber · 24/08/2026 11:14

HoppingPavlova · 24/08/2026 11:09

We need more prisons and youth institutions. Less slap on the wrist more locking up

That’s not really going to work either. You can’t keep them locked up indefinitely, and they will likely just cycle in and out of youth facilities and then prisons, and this is what they will get up to in the periods when they cycle out, and they won’t be too perturbed by getting caught and cycling back in.

Establish a penal colony somewhere and dump them there for good. Might seem harsh, but 100 of them are not worth the life of a decent copper.

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