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I wouldn't reverse

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whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 24/08/2026 02:30

driving home from work about midnight. meet another car on a country lane I know really well. Woman I meet has her brights on and will not turn them off, despite me flashing her (?). She's coming uphill towards me, meaning it's so bright that my eyes are watering and I can't make out the verges clearly or even my bonnet. I've never experienced this before so I'm a bit discombobulated.

I know that if she reverses a few feet she can go into the passing place and let me go. My nearest passing point is very far back and I can't reverse safely as I've been really badly dazzled. I stop 5m or so in front of her, turn off my lights entirely hoping that it will remind her to switch her brights off, and wait. she does not and starts revving her fucking car!!!!

She's not got her window down and is having a right proper go just shouting at me to drive and waving. just reply that I'm dazzled really badly and can't safely proceed unless she switches off her lights temporarily so I can see into my rear view and past her car (to see if I can squeeze past or reverse back). I also tell her that there's a passing place just to her left, could she go into it please? I just keep asking her to please lower the lights / turn them off so I can get my bearings! but she wouldn't. she's swearing at me at this point despite my calm tone. she screams "move" at me, so I just say "no". at this point I'm seeing splotches and can't see my gear shift anyway, and If I could see around me, I would happily reverse five miles back if only it meant to get away from her.

She eventually turns off her brights, slams on her accelerator, clipping me with her wing mirror, coming very close to hitting me properly, and possibly damaging her car against the verge. she's slamming on the horn and still raving. she's driving a nice car so no clue why the fuck she did that?

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AgnesMcDoo · 24/08/2026 17:24

What a maniac.

powercats · 24/08/2026 17:21

All sounds a bit dramatic. It was her right of way really.
In this situation I would have put the handbrake on, got out of the car and gone to speak to her. No yelling and flashing, just explain without room for misunderstanding.

However, she sounds aggressive and unpleasant so just move on and try to forget about her. She handled it worse than you did.

crackofdoom · 24/08/2026 17:21

The "give way to the uphill driver" should and does have a few caveats IME. If the uphill driver has a passing space just behind them and the downhill one has a passing space half a mile behind them, then nobody would reasonably expect the downhill driver to give way.

(I live in a village which is only reachable by single track lanes).

I would stick up a passive aggressive post on the village FB page OP. "To the lady in the white Mercedes who thought it was appropriate to dazzle me and scream at me the other night" etc. You will probably discover she's a repeat offender and enjoy a group bitchfest about her before the admin comes home from the pub 😆

Move22 · 24/08/2026 17:09

Ilovemyshed · 24/08/2026 03:38

According to the highway code, uphill has right of way, so you were in the wrong.

Oooh
thanks for this! 👍
country lane near me and now I know !

ErrolTheDragon · 24/08/2026 16:55

Traypaint · 24/08/2026 16:23

Sorry OP but if this is a road you use often, you really should know that the uphill driver has priority on a single lane hill. Highway Code Rule 155.

It avoids unnecessary clutch control and, in extreme circumstances, failure of the clutch in the uphill car.

Yes but at the point when one needs to reverse, the previously uphill car is now the downhill one. It’s easier to reverse down a hill than up it IME.

Traypaint · 24/08/2026 16:23

Sorry OP but if this is a road you use often, you really should know that the uphill driver has priority on a single lane hill. Highway Code Rule 155.

It avoids unnecessary clutch control and, in extreme circumstances, failure of the clutch in the uphill car.

ColdAsAWitches · 24/08/2026 16:16

If someone flashed their lights at me, and then turned them off, I wouldn't have a clue what they meant. I can't see how it would be a signal to turn down my own lights. In this case, I would probably see it as you being stubborn and making a point that you weren't going to move. I can see why she got shouty.

WonderingWanda · 24/08/2026 16:07

I don't understand how neither of you managed to spot the glow of oncoming headlights from a distance and therefore select an appropriate passing place to wait for the other vehicle.

Lifejigsaw · 24/08/2026 16:00

I wonder if she thought you were giving way because you flashed her on approach. I know you did it to signal lights, but she may have assumed you were giving the more typical ("you first") signal!

Sladuf1 · 24/08/2026 15:47

EdithStourton · 24/08/2026 06:00

Some people can't reverse properly, which makes them a nightmare on narrow lanes.

Even if I'm going uphill, if I'm close to a passing space I'll reverse back to it. It's common courtesy and can make it faster for me than waiting for someone to reverse 50 or 100 yards downhill.

Sorry that happened to you, OP.

Edited for typo.

Edited

Exactly. Anyone who drives on country roads fairly regularly knows it’s usually quicker for all concerned if you know you’re close to a passing space, to reverse back to it. The other driver is probably one of those who can’t reverse.

I was told that years ago one of the manoeuvres on a driving test was your ability to reverse down a lane. I think that should be re-introduced.

@whyyyyyisitmonddayy do you have a dash cam? They’re worth investing in. I would have done the same as you in the situation. Have found on a few occasions now that merely telling a driver like the one you encountered is on camera is enough to get them to back down.

LovingMoose · 24/08/2026 15:43

your fine, did nothing wrong

whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 24/08/2026 15:40

DragonsFurry · 24/08/2026 03:53

From what I've heard, there seems to be more of this on country roads lately. Is it younger drivers maybe?

Really odd behaviour as gossip also seems to be a thing in rural areas.

4I'm wondering if the woman was drunk.

I’m 22 and I’ve only been driving a year, she was easily mid 40s. Perhaps she was drunk? No clue

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whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 24/08/2026 15:39

BlueManakin · 24/08/2026 04:33

You were in the wrong and unreasonably obstinate. Rule 155 of the highway code includes “Give way to road users coming uphill whenever you can. If necessary, reverse until you reach a passing place to let the other vehicle pass.”

“wherever you can”. I couldn’t see due to be dazzled, and told her I’d give way if she’d lower her beams so I can see where I was going….

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whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 24/08/2026 15:34

Anxioustealady · 24/08/2026 03:35

Brights = full beams in Britain

It was midnight in the lanes and you turned all your lights off? You are very lucky no one came from behind and hit you because they couldn't see you

And you were talking this much from within your own cars? If you weren't shouting I'm surprised if she heard a word.

well she replied to what was saying so she must of heard me.

running lights were left on, and hazards, so I wasn’t invisible for the few seconds I turned my lights off to try to demonstrate that I was asking her to lower her beams.

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whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 24/08/2026 15:33

Anxioustealady · 24/08/2026 15:31

Probably even more likely because they'd be dazzled too! Turning your lights off in the lanes at night is dumb and dangerous to other road users.

I had hazards on, and running lights both front and back of my car. And I’d only switched them off for a few seconds to try to signal that she needed to alter her beams (after already flashing her).

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whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 24/08/2026 15:31

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/08/2026 12:21

So there was room for 2 cars after all? Sounds like you were both being dramatic.

No, there wasn’t room, which is why she had to drive into the hedge and clipped me with her wing mirror. I also couldn’t see if there was enough room on my side as I was dazzled.

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Anxioustealady · 24/08/2026 15:31

Sereine · 24/08/2026 07:51

How would someone coming up behind conceivably miss OP's car given that it must have been bathed in the bright light from the car in front?

Probably even more likely because they'd be dazzled too! Turning your lights off in the lanes at night is dumb and dangerous to other road users.

whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 24/08/2026 15:30

krustykittens · 24/08/2026 02:32

She's a twat and she drove very dangerously, I hope you have a dash cam? I wouldn't move my car either if I couldn't bloody see!

I do, but reg can’t be seen because of her bloody lights! I’m still quite upset this morning. Dreading driving home from work tonight.

id also just worked a 12 hour shift and I commute an hour each way so I was absolutely exhausted.

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Ablondiebutagoody · 24/08/2026 12:21

So there was room for 2 cars after all? Sounds like you were both being dramatic.

Sereine · 24/08/2026 07:51

Anxioustealady · 24/08/2026 03:35

Brights = full beams in Britain

It was midnight in the lanes and you turned all your lights off? You are very lucky no one came from behind and hit you because they couldn't see you

And you were talking this much from within your own cars? If you weren't shouting I'm surprised if she heard a word.

How would someone coming up behind conceivably miss OP's car given that it must have been bathed in the bright light from the car in front?

Liverpoolxxx · 24/08/2026 07:15

I had that twice yesterday. The first, at a wee single-track bridge where in had priority: the person on the other side was incredulous I carried on and didn’t wait. The other was more problematic for me as I was going downhill so knew they had priority but saw they had a passing place right behind them whereas my nearest was a way behind around a bend. Turns out where they stopped was at the
end of the passing place, and if they’d stopped when they saw me they would have been IN the huge passing place. Stopped worrying about priorities then.

whattheneighboursthink · 24/08/2026 06:36

I think you embarrassed her, OP. She can't reverse and you found her out.

EdithStourton · 24/08/2026 06:00

Some people can't reverse properly, which makes them a nightmare on narrow lanes.

Even if I'm going uphill, if I'm close to a passing space I'll reverse back to it. It's common courtesy and can make it faster for me than waiting for someone to reverse 50 or 100 yards downhill.

Sorry that happened to you, OP.

Edited for typo.

Hanksness · 24/08/2026 05:52

You were dead right.
Same thing happened to me, i was 3/4 down a narrow street and a guy in a tank turned on to the road, could clearly see me and kept coming towards me.

He started waving at me to back up.
I turned off the car and locked my doors, tapped my watch making it clear I had nowhere to be.

He was going mad.
I let him go rant and gesticulate, and then pointed to my dash capturing it all.
He calmed down and backed up.
I took my sweet time to drive up and smiled as I passed.
Arsehole.

olympicsrock · 24/08/2026 05:24

You were not in the wrong . You should not manoevre a vehicle if it is unsafe for you to do so.
This trumps the give way to the vehicle coming uphill rule.
She needed to reverse into the passing place and he behavior was road rage.