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Upper Middle Class not well travelled AIBU?

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Tabbytiger122 · 23/08/2026 22:23

There are some very wealthy folk we know & some I'm acquaintances with on fb from college. All seem to run off similar schedule for holidays... Christmas skiing in France/Switzerland (same place every year) Midterm said place again, summer is always spent somewhere in France ,Italy or Greece (but always the same town)
That's it never different countries... it seems to me they are not well travelled & that familiarity is more important than going somewhere new for the heck of it! Aibu?

OP posts:
Hellohelga · 24/08/2026 10:20

Helenbelena · 23/08/2026 22:57

What on earth is ‚upper middle class‘?

What level of income or wealth is required?

It’s middle class people with lots of money.

IndestructibleRubberplants · 24/08/2026 10:18

Dragonscaledaisy · 24/08/2026 10:13

Stop tying yourself up in knots about class. What wealthy people choose to do is their business alone.

But apparently they are quite happy to share their business on this thread in a not so subtle way. Funny that!

Dragonscaledaisy · 24/08/2026 10:14

IndestructibleRubberplants · 24/08/2026 10:12

There's a lot of bitchy comments on this thread isn't there 😂.
We do things properly as opposed to the type who don't. We go for quality as opposed to the type who'll sleep in any old shack. We do a deep dive on the culture as opposed to those who like to do tick box touristing staying in a resort.

So insecure isn't it? You'd think if you were going on holiday it would be all about the things you like as opposed dismissing all the things other people ( the poor) like.

Class based posts are brilliant on MN - all the people trying to gently assert their social positions (without boastingmuch because that wouldn't be classy) - but they get the markers in - even on an anonymous forum - it's none of your business! Funny - thank you OP - very good! 😂

These type of posts demonstrate how little understanding of wealth and its subtle signifiers most people on MN have. They're very telling.

Dragonscaledaisy · 24/08/2026 10:13

Stop tying yourself up in knots about class. What wealthy people choose to do is their business alone.

PinkKimonos · 24/08/2026 10:13

Tabbytiger122 · 24/08/2026 10:08

Exactly! Mumsnet is wild! It's a discussion board & it is something I observed this summer & was wondering if others noticed similar. But in Mumsnet observation is always "judging" 👌

It’s because your OP was judgemental in itself, which you seem weirdly in denial about. You would have had different responses if you’d simply said ‘Is going on winter and summer holidays to the same few places a usual UMC thing?’

IndestructibleRubberplants · 24/08/2026 10:12

There's a lot of bitchy comments on this thread isn't there 😂.
We do things properly as opposed to the type who don't. We go for quality as opposed to the type who'll sleep in any old shack. We do a deep dive on the culture as opposed to those who like to do tick box touristing staying in a resort.

So insecure isn't it? You'd think if you were going on holiday it would be all about the things you like as opposed dismissing all the things other people ( the poor) like.

Class based posts are brilliant on MN - all the people trying to gently assert their social positions (without boastingmuch because that wouldn't be classy) - but they get the markers in - even on an anonymous forum - it's none of your business! Funny - thank you OP - very good! 😂

Calliopespa · 24/08/2026 10:12

Tabbytiger122 · 24/08/2026 10:08

Exactly! Mumsnet is wild! It's a discussion board & it is something I observed this summer & was wondering if others noticed similar. But in Mumsnet observation is always "judging" 👌

To be fair though OP, your original post used terms that were inherently judgmental, such as "not well-travelled" as opposed to a more objective statement that they like to go to the same places.

You were trying to needle in the way it was worded. It went beyond an innocent question.

5128gap · 24/08/2026 10:11

Some people use holidays for experience and learning, others use them for pleasure, some do both. These different attitudes are about personality, lifestyle and what people enjoy. I don't see a link to social class.

Tabbytiger122 · 24/08/2026 10:08

GarlicAnything · 24/08/2026 04:07

@Tabbytiger122, you're not allowed to find anything interesting or ask about other people's take on it 😂 If you're posting on a forum, you must be 'judging' and probably looking down on everyone who lives life differently to you. And this makes you wrong. So very, very wrong that numerous people have to comment on how wrong you are. Do you feel chastised? Repentant? Will you desist from writing anything online ever again, lest you be judged for judging even if you weren't?!

I increasingly feel that half the world's forgotten how to have a conversation, they can only manage snidey little battles. Thank god we don't have to go out for a drink with them!

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Exactly! Mumsnet is wild! It's a discussion board & it is something I observed this summer & was wondering if others noticed similar. But in Mumsnet observation is always "judging" 👌

OP posts:
Monty36 · 24/08/2026 10:07

Helenbelena · 23/08/2026 22:57

What on earth is ‚upper middle class‘?

What level of income or wealth is required?

For me it can be someone with a title, Sir, Lady. But not aristocrats. So upper middle. Sometimes the title comes with the job. Or inherited.
Pretty much at the top of their profession. Or old money.
Someone who has a professional job eg. KC barrister. Senior consultant.
That is upper middle class.
New money will not be upper middle class. But might marry someone who is and have a chance to elevate themselves in doing so. They might not always be successful though.

pinkspeakers · 24/08/2026 10:06

Calliopespa · 24/08/2026 09:27

What is also interesting is this terminology "done": we have "done this place."

It sounds like box-ticking more than really experiencing.

I really dislike the verb "done" when it comes to a country! Even "doing" a single city is annoying, but to say you have "done" a whole country really rubs me up the wrong way!

NewFrock · 24/08/2026 10:05

What is also interesting is this terminology "done": we have "done this place."

It jumped out at me, too.

whatsit84 · 24/08/2026 10:05

I am now middle class but grew up working class/lower middle. DH the same. We very rarely go back to the same place twice (I think one hotel in Thailand pre kids as we got a great deal on it to return and of course that middle class staple center parcs!) and I feel exactly the same as you 😂. People at work who earn loads of cash and could clearly go anywhere going back to the same places. I have wondered the same thing, is it familiarity? Saw some other posters had suggested language learning which is a point I hadn’t thought of but it’s not that in most of the cases I know. I get really excited about taking us and the kids to new places! Not that I care or judge what other people do, but I’m glad it is not just me that is curious about this.

PurplebudsWhitebuds · 24/08/2026 10:04

It's their life. They can do what they like.
If that's what they enjoy why does it matter?

I find the " one upmanship" about holidays extremely annoying. The idea of a holiday is to get a break from your normal routine. And if you achieve that what does it matter to other people where you go to or how much you spend?

A lot of people seem to make holidays their hobby. Fine if they want to do that. Their choice. But it's frankly quite boring when they bang on about their holidays ad nauseum.

SixtySomething · 24/08/2026 10:03

I think wealthier types travelled more from a younger age and had the chance to discover what really suited them. Then they stuck to it. I think lots of people are like that.

I've occasionally stayed in National Trust holiday cottages. When you read the guest book, so many people write "We come to this cottage every year", or'This is our sixth visit to the cottage". There's a lot to be said, when you have a young famiy, or when you are elderly, to stick to a place that suits your needs well.

Perhaps the time fortravel experimentation is when you're young and fancy free!

PinkyFlamingo · 24/08/2026 10:00

Tabbytiger122 · 23/08/2026 22:30

It's just a pattern I noticed. I hate returning to the same place twice..

You do realise other people can be different to you?

FudgeFudy · 24/08/2026 09:58

user85642879067 · 24/08/2026 09:24

We go to the same place every year - we like it there. We spend 10k-ish on the certainty that we’ll have a good time. To us, it’s a lot of money to waste/risk on somewhere new. I don’t particularly like travel - airports, the plane, queuing, all a bit overrated for me!
Went backpacking a bit when young but it was really pretty unpleasant. I have a rule that if it’s not nicer than where we live I’m not going!

I'm very much on the same wavelength. I don't think I'd ever pass as upper middle class (whatever that entails), but we do by now have a decent amount of money to throw at holidays. We tend to stay in really nice houses in the Lakes, the Scottish Highlands or the south of France - and we'll often go back to the same place twice or more - basically places that are driveable so we can take loads of gear and where we know we'll have a great time.

We have been further afield a few times but each time have come to the conclusion that it was more hassle and not actually any better as a holiday than our regular haunts. Plus even though we have been to the Highlands and the south of France many times there's loads of it we haven't seen - I guess we like filling in the detail of places (vs the type to spend a weekend in Paris, get a photo of the Eiffel Tower and pronounce they've thus 'done France').

I will say, though, that I am looking forward to being able to spend much longer chunks of time abroad once I've jacked in work, at which point I expect we will be heading off to much further-flung climes.

thisismeithinkorisit · 24/08/2026 09:58

Lexibletheflexible · 23/08/2026 22:30

We go to Spain a couple of times every year. We stay in the same place. As a result, our kids can all speak Spanish fairly well alongside learning it at school.

Our neighbours do the skiing thing and they go to France for Summers. Their kids can ski well and they speak French quite well.

I think this is the key. What are you looking for from your holiday?
If fancy foreign holidays are a luxury, and you dontk now you can go every year, it makes sense to maximise your experiences and go to different places.
If you know you'll be going on four holidays a year and moeny isn't a big deal and you've had a few years of trying different places, probably done the exotic stuff at a younger age anyway, then consistency has an advantage. You know the place, you can probably be more relaxed about the kids doing stuff (and my understanding of skiing is that yo can offload the kids as much as you like), you're paying for something you know you'll enjoy, the kids can learn to ski / speak a language etc. And if yo mu ever fancy a change, you can just book a couple of weeks in Mauritouor a cruise around the arctic circle and it won't affect the rest of your holidays.

We go to Wales every year because we're poor working class 😂 so if I had moeny for fancy holidays I'd want to go every where, but I can why you'd develop comfortable favourites if you knew you could always just book something.

tamade · 24/08/2026 09:57

Calliopespa · 24/08/2026 09:25

I think this post has hit on some interesting points, especially that cheaper travel and package deal travel has taken the exclusivity out of far flung places.

I think now dashing about all over is seen as not having found your niche/ a nice enough destination, or even as being driven by what you picked up cheaply when you looked online.

I do think the curious should continue to be curious, but if, on the other hand, you have found something you all love, why not repeat it? Devil's Advocate might just say you've never found an experience nice enough to want to keep returning op.

Also you don't stop getting exposure to new cultures just because you re-visit: you deepen your understanding. And maybe some see that as more valuable than a tourist view of dozens of places.

I agree with this, and add that the "professional social media travelers" give most people I know the ick

bluescarf · 24/08/2026 09:57

I think being upper middle class and wealthy gives you all the comfort of choices. Nothing to prove, go where they want to go, do what they want to do.

They probably want comfort and luxury guaranteed and there’s nothing wrong with that.

FamBae · 24/08/2026 09:56

I don't think it's a class thing, I've been on many holidays and seen families there that go every year without fail, know all the staff by name, have fancy dress costumes in their luggage etc. I think part of it is just not having the faff of aclimatising to a new environment. Not my cup of tea, but each to their own.

borntobequiet · 24/08/2026 09:51

Travelling widely is not an obligation. People have different preferences.

I have not noticed that extensive travel makes people more sensible or well informed, though it gives them plenty to bang on about.

bloominghell76 · 24/08/2026 09:42

We have family that go Disney World every year. We like to go back to a different country each time. Different boats for different folks. Neither are right or wrong

BlueDillieDillie · 24/08/2026 09:39

For us the advantage of going to the same place is that we get to know it better and get to know people there. We go to a small town in Normandy and it seems familiar. We are recognised there.

MyDeftDuck · 24/08/2026 09:37

Their holidays, their choice. No one has a right to implement their choices on other people!

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