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Upper Middle Class not well travelled AIBU?

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Tabbytiger122 · 23/08/2026 22:23

There are some very wealthy folk we know & some I'm acquaintances with on fb from college. All seem to run off similar schedule for holidays... Christmas skiing in France/Switzerland (same place every year) Midterm said place again, summer is always spent somewhere in France ,Italy or Greece (but always the same town)
That's it never different countries... it seems to me they are not well travelled & that familiarity is more important than going somewhere new for the heck of it! Aibu?

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Tabbytiger122 · 28/08/2026 20:47

Helenbelena · 28/08/2026 17:04

What are these ‘social class signifiers’ other than wealth and income?

Yes I agree, the op should elaborate further!

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Helenbelena · 28/08/2026 17:04

PinkKimonos · 28/08/2026 09:56

It’s not to do with wealth, though, but social class signifiers. They’re not that mysterious — people discuss them on here all the time.

What are these ‘social class signifiers’ other than wealth and income?

RuinartRuination · 28/08/2026 11:35

Tabbytiger122 · 28/08/2026 10:27

As in "we Summer in..." & "we Winter in" 😉

Or my favourite “Where are you summering? We are summering in Cap Ferrat”.
Mind you, this is common among the school mums who are all wonderful but many of whom would not have been out of place in a modern day “Rivals” so I’m speaking with affection really.

Tabbytiger122 · 28/08/2026 10:27

RuinartRuination · 28/08/2026 10:20

Do they use the word summer as a verb? 😀

As in "we Summer in..." & "we Winter in" 😉

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RuinartRuination · 28/08/2026 10:20

Tabbytiger122 · 23/08/2026 22:30

It's just a pattern I noticed. I hate returning to the same place twice..

Do they use the word summer as a verb? 😀

PinkKimonos · 28/08/2026 09:56

SixtySomething · 24/08/2026 12:19

Please tell us more about the "subtle signifiers of wealth," I genuinely would like to know. Do you mean they are used by people deliberately to show how wealthy they are, or they are unconscious things to watch for in others?

It’s not to do with wealth, though, but social class signifiers. They’re not that mysterious — people discuss them on here all the time.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 28/08/2026 09:28

LumpkinPumpkin · 24/08/2026 10:36

I think it sounds lovely to enjoy somewhere so much that you keep returning.

I agree but you can only truly judge it if you've been to multiple places.

I have a friend whose family went to a resort when she was a teen. Same apartment block every year. When she started going on holiday with her BF that's where she went with him, different apartment in the same block. He had never been anywhere so was just happy to have a holiday. They have been together over 20 years now and bar a city break that's the only place they have been. Their honeymoon? Back to the same apartment. We decided to go on a mini break a few years ago and thew around lots of ideas but they kept pushing that we go to this resort and the rest of us refused, the plan was cancelled for covid anyhow and never happened again. I appreciate they enjoy it but the fear of new experiences or the blindness that other places could be equally nice makes them seem very narrow minded and I find it hard to respect to be honest.

Calliopespa · 24/08/2026 15:42

PixellatedPixie · 24/08/2026 14:00

Well for me those aren’t box ticking, despite the language I used, as I have family in both the US and SA so I won’t ever have “finished” or “ticked off” visiting there.

Some people like spending their holiday money on high end hotels but I would rather spend it to travel further and have more experiences of different places.

I think this is about an attempt to shoot down a family you have envy towards OP.
Maybe you were not using it to mean "ticked the box" but a lot of people do use it that way - as if getting the insta shot there plus a T-shirt is somehow rounding them out as a person.

NewFrock · 24/08/2026 15:21

I have significantly reduced travelling by plane to reduce my carbon footprint. Therefore most holidays now are in Europe

Same. I've just absolutely had enough of airports. Love a train journey though.

PixellatedPixie · 24/08/2026 14:00

Calliopespa · 24/08/2026 09:27

What is also interesting is this terminology "done": we have "done this place."

It sounds like box-ticking more than really experiencing.

Well for me those aren’t box ticking, despite the language I used, as I have family in both the US and SA so I won’t ever have “finished” or “ticked off” visiting there.

Some people like spending their holiday money on high end hotels but I would rather spend it to travel further and have more experiences of different places.

Tabbytiger122 · 24/08/2026 12:28

SixtySomething · 24/08/2026 12:19

Please tell us more about the "subtle signifiers of wealth," I genuinely would like to know. Do you mean they are used by people deliberately to show how wealthy they are, or they are unconscious things to watch for in others?

Would love for the OP to elaborate but I think they mean silent markers the wealthy recognise in each other

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Gettingmadderallthetime · 24/08/2026 12:26

Tabbytiger122 · 23/08/2026 22:23

There are some very wealthy folk we know & some I'm acquaintances with on fb from college. All seem to run off similar schedule for holidays... Christmas skiing in France/Switzerland (same place every year) Midterm said place again, summer is always spent somewhere in France ,Italy or Greece (but always the same town)
That's it never different countries... it seems to me they are not well travelled & that familiarity is more important than going somewhere new for the heck of it! Aibu?

Not read the whole thread but lots of people may travel for work and not want long haul travel for holidays with children.

SixtySomething · 24/08/2026 12:19

Dragonscaledaisy · 24/08/2026 10:14

These type of posts demonstrate how little understanding of wealth and its subtle signifiers most people on MN have. They're very telling.

Please tell us more about the "subtle signifiers of wealth," I genuinely would like to know. Do you mean they are used by people deliberately to show how wealthy they are, or they are unconscious things to watch for in others?

itsalltoplayfor · 24/08/2026 11:48

There may be an element of 'class' in that certain places have an appeal for certain types of people (birds of a feather and all that) and some resorts can get a reputation (if that's the word) because of that. Isn't Rock in Cornwall nicknamed 'Chelsea on Sea'?! It would be true to say there's sometimes a dominant demographic in a holiday location. However, the reasons why people return time after time to the same place are varied and perfectly reasonable IMO.

Redpaisley · 24/08/2026 11:43

Tabbytiger122 · 23/08/2026 22:30

It's just a pattern I noticed. I hate returning to the same place twice..

What age group you are? Why do you hate going to a place twice? Is it because you didn’t like the place that much to return to it or that you are a passport stamp collector?

I consider myself fairly well travelled. Also lived in 4 different countries so far but now in my 40s , there are some places I love to return. Because I really like going to those places, it’s relaxing.

Tabbytiger122 · 24/08/2026 11:38

Boredofprivateschoolbashing · 24/08/2026 11:22

And I know lots of 'working class people' who go to Ibiza or Felixstowe every year. Not sure what the point of this thread is, envy probably.

Ibiza can be very upper class too depending on the part & accommodation type. Just thought I'd make a thread interesting replies but if I ever come into money I'll personally be diversifying my holidays!

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/08/2026 11:31

I doubt it’s a class thing! Some people just like going to the same place, which they really like, and where they know the ropes so don’t have to waste time finding out where to go, what to do.

For quite a few years when dds were at home we went every summer to the same beach resort, where there were excellent watersports run by responsible people (not always the case!) who we’d come to know well. They were fantastic holidays,

Later dh and I have returned several times to the same place in the Pelopponese, since we always thoroughly enjoyed it, and the particular hotel was amazing value with wonderful sea views.

We have visited plenty of other places, but these two were always ‘return’ favourites.

PinkKimonos · 24/08/2026 11:25

Boredofprivateschoolbashing · 24/08/2026 11:22

And I know lots of 'working class people' who go to Ibiza or Felixstowe every year. Not sure what the point of this thread is, envy probably.

Absolutely. My SILs and their families go to the same Spanish resort annually.

Boredofprivateschoolbashing · 24/08/2026 11:22

And I know lots of 'working class people' who go to Ibiza or Felixstowe every year. Not sure what the point of this thread is, envy probably.

2026letsgo · 24/08/2026 11:21

AnonyMumAuDHD · 24/08/2026 11:12

O.M.G. I just ate a bowl of Fruit n Fibre at 10am… have I betrayed my class? 😱 They were Kelloggs. though, not some own brand equivalent.

Christ woman, traditional brands are very naff.
It’s either Aldi own brand, some ultra organic Waitrose variant or you make your own
Kellogg indeed. You’ll be telling us Hienz baked beans and Gold Blend are nice next.

Booboobagins · 24/08/2026 11:19

Each to their own, @Tabbytiger122 . You want to explore more places, they may like the comfort of knowing what standards to expect and where to find what they need etc. As others have said it's helpful if you want to learn another language.

AIBUfamilydrama · 24/08/2026 11:19

I’m quite well travelled but honestly I’d take Spain or Switzerland or France over Barbados or Mauritius. Most of these “fancy” long haul holiday places are just resorts and beaches and you can’t leave the resort much. Also, why is it only the upper classes that do that? Lots of people from all classes are creatures of habit, and holiday in the same place. My parents took their caravan to the same campsite in Scarborough every year of our childhood 😁

Yetanothername3 · 24/08/2026 11:14

I must confess that I seem to have fallen into that category in the past few years.
I like to ski in Austria and always go to the same place and hotel. It is family run and it is great to catch up with the family and with other guests from different places, who all ski at the same times of year.
My other destination is more exotic and I have been going there regularly since 1998, although I tend to visit different locations each time. I do always try to spend the final 2 or 3 days at the same place as it is convenient for the flight home and good to catch up with people I have met over the years.
When my husband was still alive and we travelled en famille, we went to a lot of different places, mostly based on last-minute offerings as we were both freelance, so could not plan too far in advance. We were reasonably open-minded about our destinations, though, but they were always outside Europe as we lived within fairly easy driving distance of most European destinations.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 24/08/2026 11:12

Megifer · 23/08/2026 22:44

Whats with all these "I saw someone eat Cornflakes at 11.30am AIBU to think this is unusual?" type fart arse threads on here recently?

O.M.G. I just ate a bowl of Fruit n Fibre at 10am… have I betrayed my class? 😱 They were Kelloggs. though, not some own brand equivalent.

user85642879067 · 24/08/2026 11:07

FudgeFudy · 24/08/2026 09:58

I'm very much on the same wavelength. I don't think I'd ever pass as upper middle class (whatever that entails), but we do by now have a decent amount of money to throw at holidays. We tend to stay in really nice houses in the Lakes, the Scottish Highlands or the south of France - and we'll often go back to the same place twice or more - basically places that are driveable so we can take loads of gear and where we know we'll have a great time.

We have been further afield a few times but each time have come to the conclusion that it was more hassle and not actually any better as a holiday than our regular haunts. Plus even though we have been to the Highlands and the south of France many times there's loads of it we haven't seen - I guess we like filling in the detail of places (vs the type to spend a weekend in Paris, get a photo of the Eiffel Tower and pronounce they've thus 'done France').

I will say, though, that I am looking forward to being able to spend much longer chunks of time abroad once I've jacked in work, at which point I expect we will be heading off to much further-flung climes.

Agreed! I think we’d probably be categorised as wealthy working class😂
A cruise popped up on my SM the other day, round the world, 4mths, 50KPP before excursions, drinks package etc. it does look a good way of seeing the sights, but I’m not sure I could stick it out for that length of time…Southampton to Southampton with no flights though, so at least there’d be no ghastly airports to negotiate. Maybe when/if we retire!