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Feel like I'm walking on egg shells in my own home

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CuddlyBears · 23/08/2026 19:49

Some context

When my DD was 13 she got pregnant, she didn't really show at all and she was they thought 28/29 weeks gone. I still wonder how no one knew, not me, not her school, not anyone. DD’s behaviour had changed from the beginning of year 8, she was more snappy and moodier and honestly off the rails. I begged for help from school but nothing happened, she was excluded from school and we didn't have mum and daughter days anymore or anything

I wasn't even angry I was more shocked than anything. She was too far gone for an abortion. Prior to this nothing changed in her life to cause this she just fell into a trap after meeting her bf. He was the year above but only months older so nothing was done as they were both underage having sex and dd made it clear she wasn't coerced

She gave birth about 8 weeks after she found out and he was tiny but healthy and I've raised him since then, I got a guardianship order (i think that’s the name forgive me if not im exhausted).

I don’t want to make this thread long and unreadable so will reply to questions but his behaviour is awful tbh, he vapes and smokes weed often, steals alcohol, selfharms, is rude and disrespectful to me, he spends almost all of his time gaming on his PC and doesnt really go out. His room is disgusting the one time he did go out (the other week) I went in his room and found 2 bottles of his wee and when i confronted him later on and told him how disgusting it was he was just like “oh well you shouldn’t have gone in my room then”.

He got his gcse results this week and he already was in a terrible mood because i had woken him up to go get them. He came back and threw them at me unopened and went back to bed. He’s failed everything. He mostly got 1s and 2s but he also got a U it says he got 3 marks across 3 papers on that one.

He doesnt care, hes applied to a college but i dont know if he wants to do it or if he did it to shut me up. its also a level 2 which is going to be an issue. I tried calling school Friday and Thursday but nothing. Would college help? I feel at a loss.

He's been mostly ignoring me since but he asked me to help him tidy his room which I did but he had loads of clothes and I told him I'm not washing them all today (it was ALOT of clothes he hasn't brought down for weeks so I have left them as he didn't put them in his basket either and I wasn't picking them up off his floor) he shouted at me over it and said it's my job so I said I wasn’t helping him tidy up and he then threw a book at me (he says it wasn’t at me) because he’d taken everything off of his shelf and he was annoyed. He went for a “walk” and while he was out I did help him by finishing tidying putting everything back but it’s probably not organised how he would but I hoovered for him and changed his bedding etc. I found another bottle of his wee and when he got back he didn’t care at all he said he couldn’t bothered to go to the toilet when he was playing his game.

He stinks of weed but he swears blind he’s not smoked anything which he has.

  • yes this is a repost and i’ve added extra my previous thread got hidden from active and MNHQ aren’t answering my emails

on my other thread people suggested asking social services for help but he’s 17 in a week i don’t know if they’ll do much. he’s not violent but i feel like im walking on egg shells around him sometimes

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GottaBeStrong · 24/08/2026 12:57

CuddlyBears · 23/08/2026 23:36

He's not been diagnosed with anything but sometimes I do wonder if he could be autistic but I don't know and I have mentioned it to him but he just gets defensive

Developmental trauma presents much like neurodivergence, such as ADHD and autism. I would hazard a guess that your grandson is struggling with something like this and attachment issues. You can find resources here: beaconhouse.org.uk/resources/

Your grandchild should have been in therapy from school age. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to get long-term help of this type.

I've tried - CAMHS - and cannot get the consistency my child needs. They only offer repeated short-term interventions, which doesn't work for my child as she cannot trust the therapist in such a short time. So I have ended up having to pay for it myself. My daughter has been in play therapy on and off since age 4. I'm trying to avoid her having massive issues when she's a teenager.

I'd recommend listening to or reading the book "What Happened to You?" By Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey. It explains the impact that trauma, such as being born to a child mother and then ultimately separated from her, and having inconsistent bio parental involvement, has on the developing brain.

Another book I'd highly recommend is: Caroline Archer and Christine Gordon -
Reparenting the Child Who Hurts: A Guide to Healing Developmental Trauma and Attachments

This book is literally life changing and will help you understand what is going on with your grandson. I would urge you to read it.

These issues don't go away when they become adults. It is very common for children who are trauma-victims to become addicts either in teenage years or as adults. They are trying to cope in a world that does not feel stable or safe and to dampen the impact of what has happened to them. Even gaming/internet addiction can be a form of numbing and self-soothing creating a state that is similar to dissociation. He doesn't have to deal with reality when he is zoned out playing games.

Facing up to what happened to him - being abandoned, being rejected, having later siblings essentially picked over him, and having parents who were not able to be what he needed, is an emotionally painful and vulnerable thing to choose to do. For many people it is too scary. It may be that his reluctance to engage with the idea of therapy stems from this fear. A GP would be a good start as they may be able to help him get onto some medication that would deal with those fears and subsequently allow him to consider the possibility of therapy.

I would assume the same issues are part of his reluctance to confront his education. His self-esteem may be low (for example due to shame about not being picked to also be cared for by his muma - so not feeling 'good enough') and he may feel scared of the future - so it is easier to bury his head in the sand and zone out in his room rather than face reality.

Feel free to PM me if you want to chat.

CuddlyBears · 24/08/2026 10:38

allgoodhere783 · 24/08/2026 09:51

Sounds awful OP. You're doing your best. It sounds like he needs a stable adult male in his life.

My son has tried with him and still does when he visits but grandson isn't interested because they have nothing in common and his (grandson) opinion Is just because theyre family they don't have to talk for the sake of it
He was the same in school too he moved schools and made no new friends

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YourJoyousDenimExpert · 24/08/2026 10:27

So sorry OP - this sounds really hard and it is disappointing to read some of the unhelpful comments.
My first thought was CAMHS - and I can see you have possibly been referred. See if you can find their website and call one of the numbers - even if it is the wrong one for what you need - you need to be able to explain all this to someone as I do think he should be regarded as a priority. These kinds of MH struggles can often be seen in children in care - and they get a lot of support. Unfortunately children under an SGO can slip through the net as they may have equivalent trauma ( which is what this sounds like and is definitely not your fault) but the assumption is that as they are in the care of family, everything is fine - which it is clearly not for you.
You have done an amazing job and are clearly well
intentioned - and are unsurprisingly struggling with what to do next.
CAMHs is up to 18 in most areas.

Pester CAMHS until they provide help or specific advice about who can support your GSon - he needs support and so do you.
I also agree that you should make social services aware that you are struggling and ask what support they can offer.

Fiftyandme · 24/08/2026 10:00

hattie43 · 23/08/2026 21:38

Well one sentence she says the baby is tiny but heathy the next she’s talking about someone smoking weed so yes it’s confusing .

Key sentence after “he was tiny but healthy” (notice the simple past tense?)

’Ove raised him since then’ - key sentence.

it’s obvious the surly teen and the previously tiny and healthy baby are the same person. HTH

allgoodhere783 · 24/08/2026 09:51

Sounds awful OP. You're doing your best. It sounds like he needs a stable adult male in his life.

Whorulestheroost1 · 24/08/2026 09:33

ChickenBananaBanana · 23/08/2026 23:25

I commented on this on the last post and got my arse handed to me. But surely the time for getting him help and intervention was YEARS ago, not just because he failed his exams.

Good you deserved it.

You and the other poster would do well to show some compassion instead of your sneering judgment which does not help the OP, but I guess you don't care as long as you can kick the OP whilst she is down.

CuddlyBears · 24/08/2026 09:21

I raised my ds and he isn't like this and never has been. Yes he had some typical moodiness as a teen but he was generally great and now has his own business and is living abroad in his gfs home country so it's not every child I raise.

I have tired to get him help in the past but there's nothing. He was referred to camhs probably a year ago maybe longer but we haven't had an appointment yet and the gp aren't very helpful I phoned today and they asked if I think he's a danger to himself right now and do take him to a&e if he is and said someone will phone me back but I don't feel too hopeful tbh.

When he was younger he was mostly well behaved but he did have consequences and I tried everything, giving him plenty of love, tough love, talking to him, turning the wifi is an issue as I wfh but I did at night and it just caused more issues and he was even more argumentative because he acted as if I did it to make him unhappy and not because I care about his sleep and he just talked to me even less

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Zebracat · 24/08/2026 09:16

Hi @CuddlyBears I have raised a child in similar circumstances. The Local Authority have a duty of care towards this child, they would have to supply housing and support if you were not able.. Also, it’s little known( my local authority didn’t know), but children raised by Special Guardians are eligible for help from the Adoption Support Fund, specifically if the family relationships may break down. His behaviour is out of control and frightening. You do not have to put up with it. Please seek help.

CarbootJunction · 24/08/2026 09:04

There is at least two children in this sorry tale who should have been taken into care a long time ago.

Holidaymodeon · 24/08/2026 08:58

CuddlyBears · 23/08/2026 22:32

After he was born dd did bits, she named him and when he got older (as in not a newborn and able to sit) she would play with him and feed him in his highchair, take him to the Park just them I did the most the day to day stuff because she went back to school eventually and she did calm down a bit until grandson was 2, and just after she turned 16 she got pregnant again (by his dad) she had an abortion but a few months later got pregnant again and moved out and i’ve pretty much raise grandson since. She doesn’t see him much and she’s said to me in the past she doesn’t see him as her child but she doesn’t try and get to know him in any way but I do think it’s too late because if she tried he wouldn’t be interested just how he is towards people now

His siblings are his full siblings which I know doesn’t help how he feels because i know he just resent them and feel more abandoned but he won’t talk to anyone how he feels. He was offered counselling at school but didnt really engage. i’m going to try the GP tomorrowbecause I am concerned about the self harm, when I was tidying his room I found tissues with blood on them and he said that he hadnt self harmed for ages but I don’t know how true it is because he’s always getting defensive

I have no idea what he’s going to be doing education wise in september either

This is such a tragic story. In my experience things don’t just magically improve when they go to college either. He needs professional intervention, it’s not too late but you will have to push

Holidaymodeon · 24/08/2026 08:48

This is so sad. For all of you. Is he 16? I would ask social services for an assessment of his needs or of you as a family , see gp, find out if you can get him any counselling or any kind of support before he hits 18, this is too much but he clearly has issues. Maybe because of his estranged mum, maybe he’s inherited something she has, who knows, but you need professional support

Phineyj · 24/08/2026 07:59

mdinbc · 23/08/2026 21:02

Gosh, I feel for you, but I think you have created a trap for yourself. You are under no obligation to house this underage youth. You have enough on your plate with your dd and new baby. I would talk to social services about him getting in a group home or similar.

???

Namenamchange · 24/08/2026 00:22

Hi, I was on your earlier thread. I feel for both of you, you’ve both been through such a traumatic time.

I think you should self refer to social services tomorrow. Don’t allow them to fob you off with early help. Try to get him on a Child protection plan or child in need at minimum. You’re going to have to be super pushy, explain about the self harming. Labour the point. He needs help. The first stage is getting the right help quickly, the 2nd is getting he to take it.
There could be some negotiation between pc time and engagement.

if social service cant help with counselling then I’d start looking at private.

Can you get him involved with a gym or similar?

Nearly50omg · 24/08/2026 00:05

Poor boy needs counselling. Urgently

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 23/08/2026 23:54

CuddlyBears · 23/08/2026 23:36

He's not been diagnosed with anything but sometimes I do wonder if he could be autistic but I don't know and I have mentioned it to him but he just gets defensive

he’s got significant abandonment issues. That’s bound to cause behaviour issues. What kind of behaviour and consequences did he have as a younger child? I feel like you’ve skipped 17 years of information here. How has it reached this point

Heretohelp1111 · 23/08/2026 23:51

Children’s services have a responsibility to support him, and by extension you, until he is 18 if there’s a safeguarding risk. Definitely make the call and while it’s unlikely he will remain open to them from a safeguarding point of view, they can give you advice and guidance and signpost you to support that is going to help him. If you think there’s a risk you might ask him to leave you can also tell them that and it might increase support for you. Ultimately though even with support, the change needs to come from you. What boundaries and consequences does he have now to motivate him to behave more respectfully?

CuddlyBears · 23/08/2026 23:36

deedeemegadoodoo · 23/08/2026 22:33

Sounds like you have an SGO. Did you have any support from school eg Early Help. What about SEND? He’s got low grades so any diagnosis or access arrangements? Finding bottle of urine isn’t unusual, and if he’s playing games and doing that could indicate some gaming addiction issues or even ADHD / neurodivergence.

He's not been diagnosed with anything but sometimes I do wonder if he could be autistic but I don't know and I have mentioned it to him but he just gets defensive

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ChickenBananaBanana · 23/08/2026 23:25

LejlaKapovic · 23/08/2026 23:02

Why are all kids in your life, that you're responsible for, ending up struggling so much? A 13 year old daughter getting pregnant and nobody notices, and a grandson who smokes weed, is disrespectful, unhygienic, fails school and is aggressive. What's going on in their life that they turn out like this? Where are their fathers?

It's a bit too late to try disciplining a 17 year old, but you do need to set firm boundaries. Maybe it's time for him to go stay with his actual parents?

I commented on this on the last post and got my arse handed to me. But surely the time for getting him help and intervention was YEARS ago, not just because he failed his exams.

LejlaKapovic · 23/08/2026 23:02

CuddlyBears · 23/08/2026 19:49

Some context

When my DD was 13 she got pregnant, she didn't really show at all and she was they thought 28/29 weeks gone. I still wonder how no one knew, not me, not her school, not anyone. DD’s behaviour had changed from the beginning of year 8, she was more snappy and moodier and honestly off the rails. I begged for help from school but nothing happened, she was excluded from school and we didn't have mum and daughter days anymore or anything

I wasn't even angry I was more shocked than anything. She was too far gone for an abortion. Prior to this nothing changed in her life to cause this she just fell into a trap after meeting her bf. He was the year above but only months older so nothing was done as they were both underage having sex and dd made it clear she wasn't coerced

She gave birth about 8 weeks after she found out and he was tiny but healthy and I've raised him since then, I got a guardianship order (i think that’s the name forgive me if not im exhausted).

I don’t want to make this thread long and unreadable so will reply to questions but his behaviour is awful tbh, he vapes and smokes weed often, steals alcohol, selfharms, is rude and disrespectful to me, he spends almost all of his time gaming on his PC and doesnt really go out. His room is disgusting the one time he did go out (the other week) I went in his room and found 2 bottles of his wee and when i confronted him later on and told him how disgusting it was he was just like “oh well you shouldn’t have gone in my room then”.

He got his gcse results this week and he already was in a terrible mood because i had woken him up to go get them. He came back and threw them at me unopened and went back to bed. He’s failed everything. He mostly got 1s and 2s but he also got a U it says he got 3 marks across 3 papers on that one.

He doesnt care, hes applied to a college but i dont know if he wants to do it or if he did it to shut me up. its also a level 2 which is going to be an issue. I tried calling school Friday and Thursday but nothing. Would college help? I feel at a loss.

He's been mostly ignoring me since but he asked me to help him tidy his room which I did but he had loads of clothes and I told him I'm not washing them all today (it was ALOT of clothes he hasn't brought down for weeks so I have left them as he didn't put them in his basket either and I wasn't picking them up off his floor) he shouted at me over it and said it's my job so I said I wasn’t helping him tidy up and he then threw a book at me (he says it wasn’t at me) because he’d taken everything off of his shelf and he was annoyed. He went for a “walk” and while he was out I did help him by finishing tidying putting everything back but it’s probably not organised how he would but I hoovered for him and changed his bedding etc. I found another bottle of his wee and when he got back he didn’t care at all he said he couldn’t bothered to go to the toilet when he was playing his game.

He stinks of weed but he swears blind he’s not smoked anything which he has.

  • yes this is a repost and i’ve added extra my previous thread got hidden from active and MNHQ aren’t answering my emails

on my other thread people suggested asking social services for help but he’s 17 in a week i don’t know if they’ll do much. he’s not violent but i feel like im walking on egg shells around him sometimes

Why are all kids in your life, that you're responsible for, ending up struggling so much? A 13 year old daughter getting pregnant and nobody notices, and a grandson who smokes weed, is disrespectful, unhygienic, fails school and is aggressive. What's going on in their life that they turn out like this? Where are their fathers?

It's a bit too late to try disciplining a 17 year old, but you do need to set firm boundaries. Maybe it's time for him to go stay with his actual parents?

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 23/08/2026 22:42

Poor kid. No wonder he feels abandoned with his mum not seeing him as her own child. I understand she was so young when she had him but it’ll feel like such abandonment to him, especially when she kept his siblings. Like a pp has said you are his safe space and so he is taking it out on you. It sounds very hard. He sounds very traumatised by his mum and dad’s actions. He needs a lot of support and therapy really. The self harm is not good- you’re doing the right thing taking him to the GP. Would he be better getting a job instead of education in September? Maybe education is not for him.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 23/08/2026 22:35

Dollymylove · 23/08/2026 22:03

Sorry its not clear who is who. Can you clarify please OP?

DD got pregnant at 13 yo by her same age boyfriend.
OP takes the baby boy by way of a guardian ship into her life to raise.
Boy (Grandson)is now 17 yo and having many issues .
He seems to have sporadic contact with his mother, lived with his father when he was 13 but came back.
Mother has the grandsons younger siblings and an on/off relationship with the father.

deedeemegadoodoo · 23/08/2026 22:33

Sounds like you have an SGO. Did you have any support from school eg Early Help. What about SEND? He’s got low grades so any diagnosis or access arrangements? Finding bottle of urine isn’t unusual, and if he’s playing games and doing that could indicate some gaming addiction issues or even ADHD / neurodivergence.

AgentPidge · 23/08/2026 22:32

Dollymylove · 23/08/2026 22:03

Sorry its not clear who is who. Can you clarify please OP?

The 17 yr old who is smoking weed etc is the OP's grandson, who her DD gave birth to 17 years ago and who the OP has raised. I think.

CuddlyBears · 23/08/2026 22:32

After he was born dd did bits, she named him and when he got older (as in not a newborn and able to sit) she would play with him and feed him in his highchair, take him to the Park just them I did the most the day to day stuff because she went back to school eventually and she did calm down a bit until grandson was 2, and just after she turned 16 she got pregnant again (by his dad) she had an abortion but a few months later got pregnant again and moved out and i’ve pretty much raise grandson since. She doesn’t see him much and she’s said to me in the past she doesn’t see him as her child but she doesn’t try and get to know him in any way but I do think it’s too late because if she tried he wouldn’t be interested just how he is towards people now

His siblings are his full siblings which I know doesn’t help how he feels because i know he just resent them and feel more abandoned but he won’t talk to anyone how he feels. He was offered counselling at school but didnt really engage. i’m going to try the GP tomorrowbecause I am concerned about the self harm, when I was tidying his room I found tissues with blood on them and he said that he hadnt self harmed for ages but I don’t know how true it is because he’s always getting defensive

I have no idea what he’s going to be doing education wise in september either

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ThatRatBastard · 23/08/2026 22:24

There are Kinship Care and Special Guardian groups on Facebook which may be of help to you. 💐

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