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Sisters children and step child and our holiday

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FallingDream · 23/08/2026 17:50

My parents moved back to my dad’s home country in March. We plan to visit them in October in the school holidays.

My sister has asked us if we will take her children and step child with us so that they get to see our parents but mainly to help with childcare as she and her partner have to work. Her partner is away with work that week and the week after.

My parents are ok with us bringing them all but I know it would end up with us looking after the youngest. Our children are 16 and 14 so we are at the stage where we can relax on holidays. My sisters kids are 15 and 13, step child is 7 so she still need looking after and more supervising.

Are we unreasonable not to take them with us or only take the older 2? We haven’t had a summer holiday this year so we were looking forward to relaxing holiday. We suggested just taking our nieces but got the usual stuff about treating them all the same. She’s not the same because she is 7 and needs looking after, and yes, also, she isn’t our niece so it is different.

DS can’t take the week off as she is too busy at work with a project at that time apparently. My husband says we may as well stay home if we aren’t going to be able to relax properly and it’s gone from something we were all looking forward to, to something that we don’t want to do. We are all reasonable happy to take our nieces as they don’t need looking after as such and they won’t change the vibe of the holiday.

My sister insists step child is ‘easy’ so we will be able to relax. That won’t be the case as I will feel very responsible for her and obviously she may miss her dad, my sister and her mum. She lives 50/50 between her mum and dad. Her mum is on holiday and this is her dad’s time. He’s away with work which annoys me more. I also find it strange that the little girls mum is fine with her coming away with us when we have only met her mum twice. I feel sorry for the little girl quite honestly, but we really want a break.

Sorry if it’s all a bit jumbled but hope I’ve explained it all. What do you think?

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FallingDream · 24/08/2026 15:08

soupbucket · 24/08/2026 14:52

I don’t get this, you want to take your older nieces but not the youngest, regardless of ‘biology’ if my sister said she wanted to take my two eldest away and not the youngest I would say no too all as I know my youngest would then be upset she couldn’t go so it wouldn’t be fair.

In my view, as much as your parents and nieces want to see each other this is for your sister to sort out and her responsibility, you either take them all or none.

Please remember this wasn’t our idea. We were planning to go and see my parents as a family of 4. My sister asked us to take the children. We suggested taking the older ones only after we had been asked.

I don’t believe in all or none though. Sometimes different children get to do different things due to age or even the fact that they are step children. In this case there are valid reasons not to take the younger child due to age and the fact we are not related to her.

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Bluedenimdoglover · 24/08/2026 15:05

Treat them all the same - as your sister would prefer. Don't take any of her children. Simple.

the7Vabo · 24/08/2026 15:05

Bookwormlass · 24/08/2026 15:03

I feel really sorry for the poor 7 year old. It's like nobody wants her. What sort of dad goes away with work when he supposed to have his daughter? What sort of mother allows her child to go on holiday, with someone she has only met twice? What sort of step mother tries to palm her step daughter off onto someone else, so that she can work? And to top that off, she's not even classed as family? Just wow!
That said, it's a massive ask to ask you to take all 3 of them with you, just so they can work. It's the responsibility of parents to look after their own children, or make sure they have adequate childcare arrangements.
Personally ,I'd be telling your sister no to all 3. It's a bit cheeky to even ask.
Let your BIL and his ex sort it out.

I think OP and grandparents want the older two there.

The younger one none of them want to mind. To be fair even teenagers are entitled to a holiday, not here’s a rota of who is minding the 7 year old while the Op has to worry if she’s safe, near water, sun cream, put her to bed on time etc

Bookwormlass · 24/08/2026 15:03

I feel really sorry for the poor 7 year old. It's like nobody wants her. What sort of dad goes away with work when he supposed to have his daughter? What sort of mother allows her child to go on holiday, with someone she has only met twice? What sort of step mother tries to palm her step daughter off onto someone else, so that she can work? And to top that off, she's not even classed as family? Just wow!
That said, it's a massive ask to ask you to take all 3 of them with you, just so they can work. It's the responsibility of parents to look after their own children, or make sure they have adequate childcare arrangements.
Personally ,I'd be telling your sister no to all 3. It's a bit cheeky to even ask.
Let your BIL and his ex sort it out.

the7Vabo · 24/08/2026 15:02

soupbucket · 24/08/2026 14:52

I don’t get this, you want to take your older nieces but not the youngest, regardless of ‘biology’ if my sister said she wanted to take my two eldest away and not the youngest I would say no too all as I know my youngest would then be upset she couldn’t go so it wouldn’t be fair.

In my view, as much as your parents and nieces want to see each other this is for your sister to sort out and her responsibility, you either take them all or none.

Don’t agree when 1) there’s a very big age gap, 2) the 3 girls aren’t actually sisters.

It’s very unfair to say to two teenagers you can’t go to see your same age cousins and grandparents because the younger one would be upset.

Children don’t have go get everything they want all the time. A 7 year old can easily be told this trips is for teens. We’ll do X with you as a treat.

SD 7 has her own mums family, an entire family to hang out with that the other two don’t have.

The actual parents are the only people who should be sorting this between them. Letting your 7 year old go on holdiays with a couple you’ve met twice is insane of the mother.

waterrat · 24/08/2026 15:00

I genuinely think you have been very reasonable in your whole approach here OP - and I definitely read some unkind Step parenting/ step family stuff here - this is not a case of that.

Lying reading while teens who are close organise their own days has no relation to holiday in charge of a 7 year old! Especially as you say - one who is not your own! YOu would worry about every minute of their day - I totally agree its harder than taking your own.#

I took my kids friends with us on holiday last summer and it's a huge mental burden ! worrying about whether they are okay etc - I do it for selfish reasons as my kids enjoy it - I wouldn't do it for any other reason.

Yetone · 24/08/2026 14:58

soupbucket · 24/08/2026 14:52

I don’t get this, you want to take your older nieces but not the youngest, regardless of ‘biology’ if my sister said she wanted to take my two eldest away and not the youngest I would say no too all as I know my youngest would then be upset she couldn’t go so it wouldn’t be fair.

In my view, as much as your parents and nieces want to see each other this is for your sister to sort out and her responsibility, you either take them all or none.

Even if they were not step sisters, when there are huge gaps between siblings, they very often do different things. If not, the older children would constantly have to do activities that are far too young for them.

WonderingAndOverthinking · 24/08/2026 14:54

soupbucket · 24/08/2026 14:52

I don’t get this, you want to take your older nieces but not the youngest, regardless of ‘biology’ if my sister said she wanted to take my two eldest away and not the youngest I would say no too all as I know my youngest would then be upset she couldn’t go so it wouldn’t be fair.

In my view, as much as your parents and nieces want to see each other this is for your sister to sort out and her responsibility, you either take them all or none.

No, it’s actually the child’s father’s problem to sort out.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/08/2026 14:53

krusovice · 24/08/2026 10:54

She was clear in previous posts she's not met her twice, of she had of course I wouldn't be expecting her to consider/treat her as a family member in the same way! And her needs being met by only taking her own dc away is one thing, but singling out a younger family member as she's doing (not solely relating to her age, but rather her position - unasked for by her - in the family as the non biological niece/grandchild) to be clear she's uninvited and asking teenage siblings to reinforce this, is not kind imo

The whole point is that OP was looking forward to a relaxing holiday with her parents. Her children are self-sufficient so won't need looking after. If she takes her sister's step-daughter, her relaxing holiday is out of the window.

A seven year old does need looking after and, from my experience of being a child-minder when my own children were young and now looking after my grand-daughter who is 7, there is a much greater sense of responsibility when the child isn't your own and I couldn't/can't relax for a minute.

OP's objection isn't because her sister's step-child isn't a blood relation, it's because she is so much younger than her step-sisters and OP's children and she will need to be actively 'parented' by OP. Holidays with small children are completely different from holidays with older teens who can entertain themselves.

soupbucket · 24/08/2026 14:52

I don’t get this, you want to take your older nieces but not the youngest, regardless of ‘biology’ if my sister said she wanted to take my two eldest away and not the youngest I would say no too all as I know my youngest would then be upset she couldn’t go so it wouldn’t be fair.

In my view, as much as your parents and nieces want to see each other this is for your sister to sort out and her responsibility, you either take them all or none.

ZenNudist · 24/08/2026 14:48

That would be a "hell no"! From me . Your sister is taking the piss.

ABoldStatement · 24/08/2026 14:45

FallingDream · 24/08/2026 13:56

My parents have spent more time with her than that. It is the 7 year olds mum that has only met me and my husband twice. I was surprised she would let her daughter go away with us due to that.

Do you know for a fact that the 7yo's mother has definitely agreed to it?

Or has your sister said the mother would be fine with it but hasn't specifically told the mother all the details yet?

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 24/08/2026 14:45

Have you messaged/called your sister yet OP to nip this bat shittery in the bud? X

LIZS · 24/08/2026 14:39

Does the step niece have grandparents of their own to spend time with? Well done on sending the message, hopefully dsis will explain tactfully.

Happyher · 24/08/2026 14:30

This is your sisters problem and she’s skilfully making it yours

DraigCymraeg · 24/08/2026 14:30

Bedroomdilemmas113 · 23/08/2026 18:00

But the easier solution to this is to say no to taking any? Just re read the ages - 13 and 15 do not need a parent to look after them in school holidays.
So really, your sister doesn’t actually need childcare for the older 2 but is framing it as such so she can guilt you into also taking the younger stepchild, who is actually the only one requiring the childcare. This isn’t your problem, it’s not even your sister’s problem. The child has 2 parents who simply both cannot choose to be away at the same time.

Say no to all.

The grandchildren will want to see their grandparents.
And I would NOT leave a 15 and 13 year old at home alone. Ridiculous idea.

Happyher · 24/08/2026 14:27

So they get a nice child free week(s) and you get to look after 5 kids?? I’d say ‘no, not this time. Let’s all go together when we’re all free’. Then go enjoy your holiday with your husband and your kids

ForBusyDuck · 24/08/2026 14:07

FallingDream · 24/08/2026 13:56

My parents have spent more time with her than that. It is the 7 year olds mum that has only met me and my husband twice. I was surprised she would let her daughter go away with us due to that.

My apologies, I completely agree with you.

FallingDream · 24/08/2026 13:56

ForBusyDuck · 24/08/2026 13:50

Op is going to visit her parents who have only met the little girl twice, presumably due to living abroad, op has more of a relationship with her than that.
(I still don't think op should have to take her on holiday, just pointing this out.)

My parents have spent more time with her than that. It is the 7 year olds mum that has only met me and my husband twice. I was surprised she would let her daughter go away with us due to that.

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InterIgnis · 24/08/2026 13:52

krusovice · 24/08/2026 11:53

The op has been clear she has met her more than twice :"We have met the 7 year old more than twice. It’s her mum that has only met us twice."
And I believe your views are ridiculous, blended families aren't easy but where adults are welcoming, loving and inclusive, children and families can thrive. Severing family relationships because marriages have ended is traumatic for everyone and entirely unnecessary.

Ah, the classic “If only everyone thought and acted exactly as I think they should, life would be so much more pleasant for everyone”. Except of course people are individuals, not automatons acting out roles.

The reality is that blended families are different to nuclear ones, and you cannot expect people to consider step family indistinguishable to biological family. Some families may naturally fall into the ‘all in’ pattern of a nuclear one, but those families are far from representative. Trying to force relationships, rather than respecting and accepting them for what they are to the actual parties that make up that relationship, arguably causes far more problems than it could ever hope to solve. There was another thread recently where two kids have pulled almost completely away from their father due to his insistence of forcing his stepchildren onto them as siblings.

OP’s sister has already tried and failed to have her daughters babysit her stepchild, and now she’s trying to force the child into their family holiday. All she’s managed to do is make the child a nuisance to them, and likely cemented their opposition to ever viewing her differently.

It’s ridiculous that the only people that want her going on the holiday are two people that aren’t even going themselves.

ForBusyDuck · 24/08/2026 13:50

PatchworkCow · 24/08/2026 11:17

Well it is different! The OP has met the step-child twice in 7yrs. She and her nuclear family have no relationship with the girl. She does have a relationship with her own nieces who are her sister's kids. The 7yr old is her sister's husband's kid and only lives there 50% of the time. Why on earth should OP act like the step-child she barely knows is her niece?! It's ridiculous to expect that.

I actually think 50/50 access should be banned. I don't believe it's in the DC best interest at all. It would be better if they're assimilated into one family after a breakup with the adults in that family adopting parental responsibility and see the other parent once a month during the day and possibly one overnight at that time too, if the child wanted it, with the absent parent largely relinquishing parental responsibility. That way kids aren't pulled from pillar to post with two part-time homes and no full-time one. It's even worse for them if they live with other children who are there in the home full time. Better for them to have one full-time home with parent figures living in it and a life built around that and not to feel lesser-than than any step- or half-siblings. None of that has anything to do with OP or this thread though.

Op is going to visit her parents who have only met the little girl twice, presumably due to living abroad, op has more of a relationship with her than that.
(I still don't think op should have to take her on holiday, just pointing this out.)

Hanksness · 24/08/2026 13:34

Well done OP.
Your sister has some cheek on her.

Futurehappiness · 24/08/2026 13:32

'I also find it strange that the little girls mum is fine with her coming away with us when we have only met her mum twice.'

It's always possible that the mum doesn't know about her ex's plan to send the child away with the OP. Unless it is known as a fact that she is aware, she may be under the presumption that her little girl will be with her 'D'F during his designated time, and have no idea that he is planning to send her abroad with OP's family. I wouldn't entertain doing this.

What kinds of big important jobs do all these people have btw, that they can't get even a few days off in October with 2 months notice so they could swap childcare with each other?

Another 'blended' family where the child has the nightmare of 50-50 parental care and has no place to truly call home, with parents who regard her as an inconvenience to be shunted onto the nearest available random female. I feel desperately sorry for the poor child with one, possibly 2 feckless parents, but that isn't something that the OP can solve. And no the child is not her niece; there is nothing cruel about stating this as a plain fact.

ZesmonKola · 24/08/2026 13:27

FallingDream · 24/08/2026 13:20

I spoke to my parents this morning and they’ve admitted that although they are ok with the 7 year old coming if necessary, they would rather it just be just us and our children and would love our nieces to come if we are ok with that. They are going to speak to my sister.

I have sent my sister a message saying we are only willing to take our nieces and basically said take it or leave it.

I think she’ll decide to let our nieces come with us because it will make things easier for her and she knows her daughters will be annoyed if they miss out, and our parents.

This is what I would have done, no way would I take the 7 year old.

She not biologically family and a lot younger then the rest, she will require more looking after too regardless of what your sister says.

FallingDream · 24/08/2026 13:20

I spoke to my parents this morning and they’ve admitted that although they are ok with the 7 year old coming if necessary, they would rather it just be just us and our children and would love our nieces to come if we are ok with that. They are going to speak to my sister.

I have sent my sister a message saying we are only willing to take our nieces and basically said take it or leave it.

I think she’ll decide to let our nieces come with us because it will make things easier for her and she knows her daughters will be annoyed if they miss out, and our parents.

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