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AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results

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Sidedoors · 23/08/2026 16:09

Private school GCSE decline.

What happened? Is this an example of what’s to come?

Fees are rising well beyond inflation annually yet, results are in decline.

State schools prioritising, ‘reserving seats’ in house for 6th Form. Risky investment?

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/gcse-results-day-2026-6-key-trends-from-this-years-data/

AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
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Araminta1004 · 25/08/2026 12:46

https://waldorfschule-frankfurt.de/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/2026_FWS_Beitrags-und-Gebuehrenordnung-.pdf
Frankfurt - the more kids you have, the cheaper per child.

Araminta1004 · 25/08/2026 12:41

https://www.steinerschule-basel.ch/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Skala_Schule_2026_27.pdf

Here you go, as an example. This is a large one for Switzerland and a successful one. I think taxes in Switzerland are filed for each family in detail per year so it is not like people could lie or fake their official income. It seems contribution is per family. It talks about solidarity amongst teachers and parents. Perhaps the school is also funded by the Steiner endowments and donations fund to top up.

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 12:30

In fact, in places like Germany/Switzerland there are Steiner schools where families pay fees based on income on a sliding scale and dependent on how many children they have.

I know of a Waldorf school that used to do that in the UK. They closed because they went bust. (Many years ago - pre VAT etc)

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 12:23

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 25/08/2026 12:13

You ARE the poster who kept bleating on about staff discounts. For goodness sake, take your children out and put them in State schools. You will feel better. Just accept others will not remove their children though - that’s what you are struggling to deal with.

I have no idea what you’re talking about!

40,000 have already left.

The truth and official communications circulating like wild fires across what’s app groups provide all the evidence.

Yes there are elevated begging letters, yes 1/3 and growing are being subsided, yes there are cuts to provision and service standards.

The ONLY people who get infuriated with the suggestion of such or the nudge that families should delve deep into school finance are…..…….

The ONE in THREE + in receipt of the subsidies!!!

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Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 12:23

38thparallel · 25/08/2026 09:14

That is hardly new. Eton had to start admitting the middle classes in the middle of last century. Up to then their results didn’t matter because their students wouldn’t have been looking for jobs

Really? Up until 1950s no Etonian would have needed a job? My father went there in the 1930s and he and all his friends from there had jobs.

I didn’t say they didn’t have jobs. I said they didn’t have to look for them. They had jobs waiting for them.

TallSturdyGirls · 25/08/2026 12:17

Dooferer · 23/08/2026 16:32

Parents don’t aways send kids to private schools for grades. You know that don’t you? It’s a much more enriching experience. They come out of it much happier and more confident. That probably helps them more in future life than being a few grades higher in a few subjects.

Or too confident looking at some of my family members who went to one 😬

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 25/08/2026 12:13

You ARE the poster who kept bleating on about staff discounts. For goodness sake, take your children out and put them in State schools. You will feel better. Just accept others will not remove their children though - that’s what you are struggling to deal with.

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 11:33

Unsustainable

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/08/parents-haggle-private-school-fees/

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Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 11:32

FourSevenFive · 25/08/2026 11:04

But I don't talk about that third.

Those who are paying the whole fees - but can't afford holidays, gifts and hobbies - those are the stupid ones here, who are paying for status which they can't really afford.

Unsustainable

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/08/parents-haggle-private-school-fees/

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Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 11:31

FourSevenFive · 25/08/2026 11:04

But I don't talk about that third.

Those who are paying the whole fees - but can't afford holidays, gifts and hobbies - those are the stupid ones here, who are paying for status which they can't really afford.

You misunderstand,

Since VAT independent schools launched their “hardship support funds” where those with the broad shoulders were told they should carry the weight of those who are struggling.

Many families who were once full fee payers are no longer. Seeking hardship criteria being no new cars, holidays, etc For those already on fee remission I imagine they’ll have some access to double dip support. Independents are not monitored they are free to move or assign funds as they see fit!

So what we’re left with is an unbelievably tiered “Fee” structure.

Families talk. The Chinese whispers or the truth of stories of negotiated fees, hardship support are well documented and circulating.

How naive or ridiculous would you have to be to know this is happening yet, continuing paying your full fee!

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FourSevenFive · 25/08/2026 11:04

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 10:30

It’s not “someone”

it is ONE THIRD of the families at Independent Schools!!!!

But I don't talk about that third.

Those who are paying the whole fees - but can't afford holidays, gifts and hobbies - those are the stupid ones here, who are paying for status which they can't really afford.

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 10:47

Araminta1004 · 25/08/2026 10:45

@Sidedoors - your argument does not stack up. A Labour Government probably would want the model you outline where the richer pay more for private education and those with less pay less. In fact, in places like Germany/Switzerland there are Steiner schools where families pay fees based on income on a sliding scale and dependent on how many children they have. They still have richer families sign up who believe in the philosophy.
The whole of society is predicated on the richer paying more into the pot. DH and I pay far more in than most and we are therefore contributing far more to the NHS and Education pot than most. In fact, a lot of Brits do not cover the cost of themselves via taxation. Just because NHS/Education is free for all at the point of delivery does not equate to it being free! A lot of us contribute shed loads towards it.
Anyone choosing private education knows what they are getting into. Namely headline fees plus a typical 4-5% annual rise plus extras. The rationale person who used to do 4-18 is simply now doing 11-16 or 11-18 instead. It is not as black and white as you make out. And plenty of people have grandparents paying and contributing to minimise inheritance tax as well. A lot of families believe in the private education philosophy and whole child education and are willing to put their money towards it, as opposed to expensive cars/luxury holidays/a second home etc. Some people only have 1 child and want to give them a nice experience etc etc. Grown ups are able to make the choice for their children.

That’s where everyone’s fleeing to!

The wealthy have left UK.

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Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 10:46

Labraradabrador · 25/08/2026 10:33

Do you get this excited about all of your purchases? Like, do you picket M&S because of their use of vouchers / discounts - ‘1/3 are not paying their fair share for Collin cake!!’

yes, I pay list price for dc education and i am aware that some of their classmates pay less. I have made a decision about what their education is worth to me, and while I would love a discount it really isn’t worth my life energy raging about others perceived advantages.

So long as everything is transparent.

Its not acceptable to be offering discount at one end while hiking fees beyond inflation at the other.

These are businesses, a service people have the right to choose. Everyone inside and outside of private schools are sharing the communication so ultimately they can make up their own minds.

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Araminta1004 · 25/08/2026 10:45

@Sidedoors - your argument does not stack up. A Labour Government probably would want the model you outline where the richer pay more for private education and those with less pay less. In fact, in places like Germany/Switzerland there are Steiner schools where families pay fees based on income on a sliding scale and dependent on how many children they have. They still have richer families sign up who believe in the philosophy.
The whole of society is predicated on the richer paying more into the pot. DH and I pay far more in than most and we are therefore contributing far more to the NHS and Education pot than most. In fact, a lot of Brits do not cover the cost of themselves via taxation. Just because NHS/Education is free for all at the point of delivery does not equate to it being free! A lot of us contribute shed loads towards it.
Anyone choosing private education knows what they are getting into. Namely headline fees plus a typical 4-5% annual rise plus extras. The rationale person who used to do 4-18 is simply now doing 11-16 or 11-18 instead. It is not as black and white as you make out. And plenty of people have grandparents paying and contributing to minimise inheritance tax as well. A lot of families believe in the private education philosophy and whole child education and are willing to put their money towards it, as opposed to expensive cars/luxury holidays/a second home etc. Some people only have 1 child and want to give them a nice experience etc etc. Grown ups are able to make the choice for their children.

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 10:43

Labraradabrador · 25/08/2026 10:37

And come to think of it, I might very well be part of the dastardly one third - we get a sibling discount on one child which gets us a 5% reduction in fees for the second child!

I think you have contributed more than your fair share.

Private schools must be transparent then people can make informed decisions. “Discounts” must be broken down and specific.

Like I said families are circulating all communication so people will begin to make up their own minds on Value for money.

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Labraradabrador · 25/08/2026 10:37

And come to think of it, I might very well be part of the dastardly one third - we get a sibling discount on one child which gets us a 5% reduction in fees for the second child!

Labraradabrador · 25/08/2026 10:33

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 09:21

But the difference is the government are the financier! Not the individual family.

Families are furious, struggling to meet fees and notifications that those monies will be used to “hardship” at school discretion.

Fee money and the annual hikes!

1/3 are not paying their way.

Do you get this excited about all of your purchases? Like, do you picket M&S because of their use of vouchers / discounts - ‘1/3 are not paying their fair share for Collin cake!!’

yes, I pay list price for dc education and i am aware that some of their classmates pay less. I have made a decision about what their education is worth to me, and while I would love a discount it really isn’t worth my life energy raging about others perceived advantages.

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 10:30

FourSevenFive · 25/08/2026 10:23

If someone is that stupid that they prioritise perceived status over a normal family life with holidays, hobbies and christmas gifts, it is their problem.
Noone is forcing them.
The fact that a part of families pays less is not the issue here (especially with staff discounts - those are part of school's overall economic strategy), the issue is that people prioritize status and fall for marketing when they can't really afford it.

(SEN families doing everything they can to help a child which would struggle otherwise are a different topic)

It’s not “someone”

it is ONE THIRD of the families at Independent Schools!!!!

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Labraradabrador · 25/08/2026 10:23

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 25/08/2026 07:12

@Labraradabrador Most independent schools have a fund for something or another. Bursaries, a sponsored brick for a new building, or they just charge you for every extra going! The price you see is rarely what you pay!

Our school has a fund, but you only know about it by visiting the website - I have never been asked for contributions beyond fees / opt in extracurriculars like music lessons, all of which is very clearly outlined.

they may be targeting alumni rather than current parents, though. Doesn’t really bother me but then I graduated from a US university that has an annual fundraising cycle despite a VERY large endowment and nominal fees about 3x our uk private school fees.

FourSevenFive · 25/08/2026 10:23

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 08:16

Oh no the letters in our mums group private kids/ state kids/ no kids expressly state due “due to the unprecedented times and VAT on fees it is critical we pull together and those with the broadest shoulders should help our community X-school “support fund” applicants will be monitored no news cars, holidays, lifestyles etc for this additional support! (Taken from Fee money others pay in!) Entire “support” glossy documents and PDF where you can ‘donate’ monies specifically mentioning going to school repairs, projects, hardships, bursary basic school upkeep and maintenance.

Non “private” families offering to buy a coffee or lunch for those tied into independent schools as they have no money everything going to the school fees!

The Wealthy within the group complaining of the reduced quality of food and constant emails explaining why things are being pulled or cancelled. From experience it is the wealthy who are the most price conscious, they must see return of investment.

Regular Fee paying families at these schools are having an awful time. Sacrificing a lot. No summer holidays barely affording a coffee with friends. Constant dread with annual Fee increase.

Children within the same friendship circles of the same age groups thriving, no difference in education attainment. One family no financial burden and plenty disposable income the other drowning in school fees.

If someone is that stupid that they prioritise perceived status over a normal family life with holidays, hobbies and christmas gifts, it is their problem.
Noone is forcing them.
The fact that a part of families pays less is not the issue here (especially with staff discounts - those are part of school's overall economic strategy), the issue is that people prioritize status and fall for marketing when they can't really afford it.

(SEN families doing everything they can to help a child which would struggle otherwise are a different topic)

MsSquiz · 25/08/2026 09:39

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 09:21

But the difference is the government are the financier! Not the individual family.

Families are furious, struggling to meet fees and notifications that those monies will be used to “hardship” at school discretion.

Fee money and the annual hikes!

1/3 are not paying their way.

So what is it that you want to happen?

Sidedoors · 25/08/2026 09:21

Araminta1004 · 25/08/2026 09:07

It is all relative. Struggling families on FSM in state schools receiving begging letters and donate to this that and the other and X Y Z for school trips must feel exactly the same! DS state grammar decided to take FSM kids as priority places and then had to cancel an annual trip because they obviously cannot afford it. Next year they want to raise money for FSM school trips. I am sure some people who could afford to donate will complain about this because they feel they pay a lot of tax already. You get all the same issues in the state sector.

But the difference is the government are the financier! Not the individual family.

Families are furious, struggling to meet fees and notifications that those monies will be used to “hardship” at school discretion.

Fee money and the annual hikes!

1/3 are not paying their way.

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38thparallel · 25/08/2026 09:14

That is hardly new. Eton had to start admitting the middle classes in the middle of last century. Up to then their results didn’t matter because their students wouldn’t have been looking for jobs

Really? Up until 1950s no Etonian would have needed a job? My father went there in the 1930s and he and all his friends from there had jobs.

Araminta1004 · 25/08/2026 09:07

It is all relative. Struggling families on FSM in state schools receiving begging letters and donate to this that and the other and X Y Z for school trips must feel exactly the same! DS state grammar decided to take FSM kids as priority places and then had to cancel an annual trip because they obviously cannot afford it. Next year they want to raise money for FSM school trips. I am sure some people who could afford to donate will complain about this because they feel they pay a lot of tax already. You get all the same issues in the state sector.

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 08:47

As much as private schools would love to maintain the elitist “image” they simply can’t afford to.

That is hardly new. Eton had to start admitting the middle classes in the middle of last century. Up to then their results didn’t matter because their students wouldn’t have been looking for jobs.

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