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AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results

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Sidedoors · 23/08/2026 16:09

Private school GCSE decline.

What happened? Is this an example of what’s to come?

Fees are rising well beyond inflation annually yet, results are in decline.

State schools prioritising, ‘reserving seats’ in house for 6th Form. Risky investment?

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/gcse-results-day-2026-6-key-trends-from-this-years-data/

AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
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Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 10:34

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:03

I have a friend who tried to do this for her child. Hard to replace a teacher with an online course. Also finding an exam centre that takes on private candidates to sit exams is hard. And I think private candidates don't have the coursework option (not sure about this).

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 10:33

And by the way I am pissed that the State ordains from the top exactly what my kids should be learning and how they should think because they are subjected to a mandatory national curriculum. Like most people with a proper higher education I teach my kids to challenge both the national curriculum and the political dogma/brainwashing behind it. You can do that even if you can’t afford private school. I still fully support m my DC state schools as they don’t get a choice but to rigidly implement whatever nonsense the Patriarchal system of DFE and ofsted overlords them with.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:32

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 10:29

Socioeconomic background is 4 x more likely to determine educational outcome than any other factor! According to the IFS 2022 report. Let that sink in. It matters jot where and what school kids go to except when there is value added for learning needs.
All this Labour government have done is to try and create division. But it isn’t going to work because the true haves know what they have and they can double down. Trying to indoctrinate a few more middle class people and push them state doesn’t work, if anything they turn anti ideology and dogma.

And IGCSe by the way are far more woke and flexible encompassing more of world lit and world history! Not the uk centric dogma.

If you’re correct,

this will reflect in next years annual financial accounts.

One would hate to see the “fee assistance” increase from 1 in 3, 1/3, one THIRD to,

1 in 2, 1/2, one HALF…..

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 10:29

Socioeconomic background is 4 x more likely to determine educational outcome than any other factor! According to the IFS 2022 report. Let that sink in. It matters jot where and what school kids go to except when there is value added for learning needs.
All this Labour government have done is to try and create division. But it isn’t going to work because the true haves know what they have and they can double down. Trying to indoctrinate a few more middle class people and push them state doesn’t work, if anything they turn anti ideology and dogma.

And IGCSe by the way are far more woke and flexible encompassing more of world lit and world history! Not the uk centric dogma.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:29

Longtimelurker1980 · 28/08/2026 10:21

I would gently challenge this assumption. My children go to the local state which has better resourcing than many of the city privates because it is big and benefits from those economies of scale. It also attracts excellent teachers and excels in the arts and sport. Many of the children who go there come out with straight 9s (more than 10 per cent of kids got 10 grade 8s or above in GCSE this year) and are just as confident as their privately educated peers who live on the same street. Similarly, there are kids from both sides of the fence who struggle, don’t thrive in their chosen setting and can’t have a conversation with an adult by 16. so it’s a much more nuanced position than you suggest.

we chose not to privately educate on political (small p) grounds but appreciate that we have clever kids with thick skins and strong socials. They have thrived at state. My friends’ kids have been sent to private because of various reasons such as neurodiversity, failure to thrive, bullying etc and I completely understand why. If it were in my child’s next interests I would absolutely do it and stuff the politics.

one thing I particularly value about state school is that my kids are around the more ‘gritty’ life experiences that link back to my own childhood: poverty, crime, drug abuse, neglect, etc. They share classes with struggling kids and have learned to be empathetic to other people’s life experiences (which after all is what creates the ‘bad behaviour’ in class) whilst learning to concentrate amid minor chaos. That’s a very important life skill - none of us will have the opportunity to work only in complete silence.

however, they are also around friends who are advantaged and snobby and have what I would call ‘small world’ views and have learned to challenge that too. I feel they have seen a decent spread of what life throws at people, providing a very deep life-skills type enrichment outside of academics.

these discussions can become very rude as people try to justify their own positions. It’s always emotional because the system is unfair - those with money are perceived to get a better education. But for my part I would gently challenge what ‘better’ looks like.

Two different schooling choices can be perfectly reasonable at the same time. Let’s share views but appreciate that in denigrating someone else’s we weaken our own.

“…. Who live on the same street..”

This,

No matter the pretence, this is the reality. We’re all living it. We all see it. We all form our own experience led evaluations!

Longtimelurker1980 · 28/08/2026 10:21

Dooferer · 23/08/2026 16:32

Parents don’t aways send kids to private schools for grades. You know that don’t you? It’s a much more enriching experience. They come out of it much happier and more confident. That probably helps them more in future life than being a few grades higher in a few subjects.

I would gently challenge this assumption. My children go to the local state which has better resourcing than many of the city privates because it is big and benefits from those economies of scale. It also attracts excellent teachers and excels in the arts and sport. Many of the children who go there come out with straight 9s (more than 10 per cent of kids got 10 grade 8s or above in GCSE this year) and are just as confident as their privately educated peers who live on the same street. Similarly, there are kids from both sides of the fence who struggle, don’t thrive in their chosen setting and can’t have a conversation with an adult by 16. so it’s a much more nuanced position than you suggest.

we chose not to privately educate on political (small p) grounds but appreciate that we have clever kids with thick skins and strong socials. They have thrived at state. My friends’ kids have been sent to private because of various reasons such as neurodiversity, failure to thrive, bullying etc and I completely understand why. If it were in my child’s next interests I would absolutely do it and stuff the politics.

one thing I particularly value about state school is that my kids are around the more ‘gritty’ life experiences that link back to my own childhood: poverty, crime, drug abuse, neglect, etc. They share classes with struggling kids and have learned to be empathetic to other people’s life experiences (which after all is what creates the ‘bad behaviour’ in class) whilst learning to concentrate amid minor chaos. That’s a very important life skill - none of us will have the opportunity to work only in complete silence.

however, they are also around friends who are advantaged and snobby and have what I would call ‘small world’ views and have learned to challenge that too. I feel they have seen a decent spread of what life throws at people, providing a very deep life-skills type enrichment outside of academics.

these discussions can become very rude as people try to justify their own positions. It’s always emotional because the system is unfair - those with money are perceived to get a better education. But for my part I would gently challenge what ‘better’ looks like.

Two different schooling choices can be perfectly reasonable at the same time. Let’s share views but appreciate that in denigrating someone else’s we weaken our own.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:03

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

£375 bargain 😂

https://www.ool.co.uk/igcse/english-literature/

IGCSE English Literature | Distance Learning | Oxford Open Learning

English Literature IGCSE Distance Learning Course from Oxford Open Learning. Study with Qualified Tutors & Monthly Payments. Register Online to Start Learning.

https://www.ool.co.uk/igcse/english-literature/

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:02

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

https://www.leadingtuition.co.uk/blog/igcse-vs-gcse-english-literature

IGCSE vs GCSE English Literature 2026 | Leading Tuition

IGCSE and GCSE English Literature compared for 2026: set texts, closed vs open-book rules, coursework options and paper weighting, board by board.

https://www.leadingtuition.co.uk/blog/igcse-vs-gcse-english-literature

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:01

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

So it is true?

I would love to see Labour level up.

All children deserve opportunities.

Its so important those gifted in society are spotted from an early age.

There is a vast difference between gifted children and those of pushy-parents just seeking uniform and status.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:50

Apparently some also exclude Shakespeare.

A mum who achieved 3 A A levels at state school complained to the private her dc is at as she was told they won’t cover certain topics?

When she found out about “IGCSE” she met the head.

Seems very unfair.

Edited

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:53

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 09:48

Elite schools are going anti tech and Meta had to pay out billions. Heavy heavy regulations is coming for AI and the tech bros and your bot OP.

I’m sure Elon Musk is preparing for the downturn….

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:50

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:47

Also, to get a 9 in IGCSE English is much easier than in GCSE. Depending on the exam board. AQA is generally regarded as the hardest for English.

Yes, coursework helps. Cuts down the variable performance in exams.

Apparently some also exclude Shakespeare.

A mum who achieved 3 A A levels at state school complained to the private her dc is at as she was told they won’t cover certain topics?

When she found out about “IGCSE” she met the head.

Seems very unfair.

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 09:48

Elite schools are going anti tech and Meta had to pay out billions. Heavy heavy regulations is coming for AI and the tech bros and your bot OP.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:47

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:22

What is the difference between IGCSE and GCSE someone suggested private use IGCSE as it’s more “coursework” therefore they can have a greater hand in outcome.

Also, to get a 9 in IGCSE English is much easier than in GCSE. Depending on the exam board. AQA is generally regarded as the hardest for English.

Yes, coursework helps. Cuts down the variable performance in exams.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:45

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 09:40

There you go, @Labraradabrador - you need to chase unsuspecting well-dressed children round the playground with a UV flashlight to see if they’ve stolen your child’s clothes.

Transparency is always available (when there’s nothing to hide) Independent schools will have to get used to this, it’s their new normal.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:42

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 09:40

There you go, @Labraradabrador - you need to chase unsuspecting well-dressed children round the playground with a UV flashlight to see if they’ve stolen your child’s clothes.

Or if there’s any suspicion a private word with reception and examination of blazer/item will speak volumes!…..

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 09:40

There you go, @Labraradabrador - you need to chase unsuspecting well-dressed children round the playground with a UV flashlight to see if they’ve stolen your child’s clothes.

Tunnocks34 · 28/08/2026 09:40

My friend sent her son to a private school to avoid her son falling in with the wrong crowd.

He promptly made friends, and then became best friends with the son of a gangster/drug dealer.

Private schools do produce miles better results, and I say this as someone who works in a state school. Not due to teachers. But resources, class sizes, they use easier exam boards which state schools are not allowed to use, parents are often more conscientious (able and willing to get tutors), most private schools have entry exams so they are already selective about who they let in.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:39

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 09:31

Are you a private school parent @bedtimeaudible ? You could move your child to state if you’re not happy and their needs can be met in your local provision.

Many taking their children international monitoring the financial situation in UK.

If they remove the benefits culture and the tiered system they will bring them back. We’re all watching the financial accounts….

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:37

Labraradabrador · 28/08/2026 09:33

hwre I was thinking my dc were just careless. Turns out there is a Fagin like mastermind behind my missing uniform?

The mums in local circles have used UV permanent markers for items this year. So it’s going to be interesting.

Labraradabrador · 28/08/2026 09:33

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:12

I’m talking about the attire of many children outside of the school gates. The wealth divide is becoming obvious WITHIN independent schools. Many things are “going missing” as children going-without are forced to sit in environments where many others have abundance. Things are going “missing” on a daily basis. Parents are talking and complaining!

hwre I was thinking my dc were just careless. Turns out there is a Fagin like mastermind behind my missing uniform?

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 09:31

Are you a private school parent @bedtimeaudible ? You could move your child to state if you’re not happy and their needs can be met in your local provision.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:30

Labraradabrador · 28/08/2026 09:28

There isn’t really a consensus on more tech = better when it comes to education - there is a trend amongst the most tech savvy execs to place the greatest limits of tech/screen time for their own children, and many look for schools that strictly limit or even ban screen learning in the classroom.

if you look at the AI debate and impact it has on getting kids to think there has been a lot of handwringing about how private schools are better able to force more traditional learning experiences (writing essays in class for example) due to smaller class sizes, meaning they are able to offer a deeper learning experience. I think fully AI education is most likely to be foisted on the poor, not the rich - it sounds totally depressing.

i will also say there are many things I prioritise about my dc education, but ‘efficiency’ isn’t really top of the list, at least not in the way you describe. If some bits become more efficient the expectation will be that the extra time is used to do more - more extracurriculars, more hands on learning experiences, deeper exploration of topics, etc. Those are all things private school parents pay for today as part of the private package and don’t see it becoming less important

I’m quite exhausted of all the “talk”

Talk is cheap

I will be monitoring school financial records.

Labraradabrador · 28/08/2026 09:28

There isn’t really a consensus on more tech = better when it comes to education - there is a trend amongst the most tech savvy execs to place the greatest limits of tech/screen time for their own children, and many look for schools that strictly limit or even ban screen learning in the classroom.

if you look at the AI debate and impact it has on getting kids to think there has been a lot of handwringing about how private schools are better able to force more traditional learning experiences (writing essays in class for example) due to smaller class sizes, meaning they are able to offer a deeper learning experience. I think fully AI education is most likely to be foisted on the poor, not the rich - it sounds totally depressing.

i will also say there are many things I prioritise about my dc education, but ‘efficiency’ isn’t really top of the list, at least not in the way you describe. If some bits become more efficient the expectation will be that the extra time is used to do more - more extracurriculars, more hands on learning experiences, deeper exploration of topics, etc. Those are all things private school parents pay for today as part of the private package and don’t see it becoming less important