Stopping the boats is easy...

Immigration and asylum status of violent criminals and sex offenders is blocked. Self reported ethnicity and nationality are readily available in many public government and think tank sources.

Sky News published an analysis by the Office of National Statistics debunking the claim by Reform that Afghans are 22 times more likely to be convicted of rape (or to rape, I forget which) than British. The ONS figure is 3 times. Still a difference (though poverty is part of it) but being off by a factor of more than 7 is grossly irresponsible to say the least.

@BasildonBonds I am not sure barracks are the right answer, but we have to house asylum seekers somewhere. There was outrage at them being in hotels. There is outrage at them being in HMOs so what exactly do people want?

We don't want them here in the bloody first place !

I live in a small town (pop 27,000) and some areas with terrace houses are being converted to HMOs. What ticks off the local tradespeople is that the work is being done by out-of-town tradespeople so our own people lose out.
We've already had one incident where a migrant got up into their own roof-space via the hatch and walked along the row of terraces, then came down into the home of a young single mother who was terrified.

They are now being seen wandering around the town and causing a nuisance at the foodbank because they don't like the food on offer. They are so rude and entitled that the foodbank has lost volunteers, and they have had to cut their hours of opening. This doesn't help our own people who may have fallen on hard times and deserve help..

Thought you would be. Yes as said you can try again without digs and you’d probably get further with what you want answers to.

From this post though you’ve said mass accommodation for asylum seekers isn’t good for communities, why do you feel the men would be different in any way?

Plus restrictions on movement In your pp why would you want that?

All I've read from two posters is hot air and plenty of contradictions.

@BasildonBonds You said you were more worried about the locals. It's a well established distraction tactic. Nobody expects you to hate male Muslim asylum seekers. You are just doing all you can to deny the huge risk they pose. @poetryandwine you still haven't answered have you whether you would want asylum seekers housed by you. You said it was a generic question. @BasildonBonds was quick to say she would be happy, so if you're telling the rest of us we are wrong, we can conclude you would feel safe living by them. As safe as you would living next door to an open prison, I presume. Reform voters approach crime far more with their eyes open than you do. BTW.

I thought the government were blocking the release of figures on ethnicity and asylum status of violence and crime. So how does this poster know the public are wrong. And the police haven't said anything on crime being "miniscule" what are you on about?

I am with @BasildonBonds

@EasternStandard has failed to answer loads of questions from me, so I am fine applying her own standards.

I don’t think housing asylum seekers en masse is good for them. It probably isn’t good for communities, but this in no way excuses the vigilantism and persecution that has been practised against some of them.

As long as mass housing is going to exist, wrong as it is, it should be allocated equitably. If that includes @EasternStandard ‘s local authority, Rishi Sunak’s, Andy Burnham’s or my own, so be it. Our feelings on the matter are not relevant. It is wrong that it doesn’t work this way.

But the experts favour dispersal housing. My leafy village is generally inclusive and politically moderate and I think we would do fine with it. The local council is already housing a proportional number of asylum seekers. According to the Oxford Migration Observatory, when counting earlier this year 41 if the 361 local councils were housing zero asylum seekers.

The juvenile twisting of @BasildonBonds ’s words on risk is absurd. The police themselves emphasise that the risk of being harmed by an asylum seeker is minuscule. Meanwhile, between 80% and 90% of women harmed by men know their assailant. Then there are all the other random assaults that don’t get publicised. To say nothing of illegal immigrants who have not claimed asylum.

On 17 Aug (11 days ago) the Independent newspaper published the results of a survey about the British population’s perception of crime. People believe that the foreign born are responsible for twice as many sex crimes (30%) as they truly are (15%). People believe that crime is going up when actually it is going down.

Those who say they support Reform have the most negative and false views of crime of any group in the survey.

Yeh it’s not working. Up until recently these threads would be majority e-bike / other excuse and the usual attack line posts. At least that’s waning somewhat.

I don't understand. Local boys are driving recklessly.... So asylum seekers don't pose a risk

Yes why would e-bikes be a reason to keep asylum as it is?

If performing mental gymnastics were an Olympic sport that poster would get a 🥇

You could laugh if it weren’t so fucking frightening and upsetting.

So because local boys are driving bikes recklessly the asylum issue isn't a thing? This doesn't follow. Just because there's already a domestic issue doesn't mean we import a foreign issue in.

Well it would be ridiculous to say e-bikes are more dangerous than rape and murder. Good job nobody said that.

It is obvious that you will just pile on anyone who doesn't uniformly hate all male Muslim asylum seekers, so I will leave you to it. Twist my words and call me all the names you wish in my absence.😚

She'll probably say she's more scared for her DDs of local white British men then foreign migrants

I’m not writing your posts. Just reading what you’ve put. Women and girls have been raped and murdered. And the gov gloss over it to the extent some believe their inaction is ok.

I don’t agree with that. The system should be changed.

Oh how entertaining this thread is. Bikes are now more dangerous than rape and murder. I've seen it all now. The apologists then feign shock at being called out.

It wasn't flippant. It was true. I am more at risk from those boys than I am from the asylum seekers who live locally. A couple of pedestrians have been hurt by those bikes and there have been some RTAs in my town due to them, including deaths. They are a menace.

You seem utterly determined to paint me as uncaring about the victims of criminal asylum seekers and the VAWG that some asylum seekers have committed. Do carry on if you get a kick out of it.

Apologies if this has already been posted but did anyone see the recent news that the National Crime agency has intercepted a small boat and engine consignment that was coming in from China and heading to France through Felixstowe? Sounds like there has been things going on behind the scenes and they are starting to unravel the networks.

What haven’t I answered from you?

I wasn’t going to post as you said, it’s up to you how you feel about risk. But I did find your ‘yoof’ post with rapes and murder included as flippant given some of the horrendous crimes women and girls have suffered due to dismissal of risk and inaction by the government.

I am reluctant to answer personal questions from you as you always evade answering any questions asked of you, including one I asked earlier.

I also don't think you are asking in good faith. If I answer "yes", you will probably say you feel sorry for my DDs or accuse me of not caring about their safety (which would be v untrue). If I answer "no" you will say I would think differently if I did.

The make up of my household shall thus remain a mystery to you.

Do you have dds (at home) out of interest

Absolutely. Fine by me!

Good stuff. As said Labour should use your and similar areas first. It makes sense to target where there’d be lower backlash.

I am honestly more in danger from the local yoof who ride around balaclavad up on electric bikes.

I bet statistically I am more likely to be run over by one of them than I am of being murdered or raped by an asylum seeker.

So to reiterate, yes if the existing barracks in my town were used to house 1000 male asylum seekers I would not protest.

Well you either do or don’t want over 1000 men nearby. And if it’s a no thanks as it was for the other welcoming poster you’ll need a way to show that.

You might even want the press to notice. You could take tips from Piddington.

As for where that’s for Labour, I’m sure the smash the gangs pledge will deliver for them instead.