AIBU to be angry that my husband is unconcerned about women’s safety?

How many men in Afghanistan would not know that rape isn’t ok?

Because some of your posts agree there’s an information gap which needs to be rectified and in others you say they do know already.

Ditto for the other things explained in the leaflet

The laws of the land? Because the law varies from one country to another, eg female genital mutilaton is still widely practiced in a few countries and in some countries women do not have equal rights.

Why would those basic issues in the leaflet not be known? In your view

Import the Third World, become the Third World.

It’ll cost less than two or three years accommodation in a hotel, before moving to a HMO with a life long benefits system if they decide they can’t be bothered working, maternity costs when they bring the wife over, school costs, it costs a lot more using the current system.

One man was interviewed in Ireland. He lives in Co. Clare in a fabulous hotel going on 3 years, the hotel rooms cost between 200 up to 500 per night. It was popular with American tourists. The towns have lost their hotels and the tourism industry.

Yes, they said something like they were simply informing people of our laws because how else would they know. It is not the same as saying that migrants are more likely to break tbe law. Indeed, Migration Observatory (based at University of Oxford - provides impartial analysis and evidence on migration) published a report on migrant crime a few days ago. They say:

“Research on how migration affects crime rates in the UK is limited. Studies based on data from the 2000s and 2010s suggested that migration did not affect violent crime or property crime rates on average, but that a larger number of asylum seekers was associated with an increase in rates of property crime.”

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-and-crime-in-the-uk/

Labour obviously see an information gap otherwise the leaflet would not be needed.

I was replying to you Dizzy and your claims, not OP, but nicely dodged - I wouldn't call forcing a child to "marry" an adult man, and real marriage personally. Also, its fine to rape none Muslim women isn't it? No problem with that at all in Islam, or maybe you can explain how owning sex slaves, isn't rape? https://www.brandeis.edu/projects/fse/muslim/slavery.html

Would you be happy anywhere as a woman? Afghanistan, Sudan, Iran, all similar to the UK?

Ok, seems reasonable. How much do you think all that evaluation will cost, and how long will it take?

On balance people want as much as a background check on these men as possible.

Not only from Afghanistan as things aren’t much better in Sudan or the Congo, Somalia and many Nigerian people are now been raped, murdered on beheaded.

There needs to be a full psychological evaluation carried out, root deep into the background, men from these cultural groups who have been through trauma are being let settle amongst communities, they should be detained until they are processed.

The religious warfare in Nigeria, now 50/50 Christian’s and Muslims is beyond our worst nightmare. There certainly won’t be 50% Christian in the next 5 years at the rate they’re being murdered.

Love that neighbour.

Inviting cultures that are very much against the norm in the host country is asking for trouble.

So on balance it seems like quite a lot of pp would support a ban on men entering from
Afghanistan. What would you do with arrivals, immediately deport to Afghanistan?

The Taliban are brutal thugs who oppress women. Afghanistan is also a poor country. Most afghans do not support the Taliban. Before the Taliban came
back into power, the situation for women was
still bad but substantially better - for example there were female doctors.

The men who claim not to support the Taliban sell their eldest daughter to feed the younger children once she hits puberty, sometimes to her uncle.

I find it crazy that millions is required to spend on baby boxes for humanitarian aid to displaced refugees, if there is ever a time to refrain from having sex this is the time. Women giving birth without properly medical staff, pain relief, there is zero respect for women.

I saw a TikTok video today, a young lady in the England, she was being harassed by a man.

she said don’t come near me. Leave me alone. Go away. He reached his hand out, she said don’t touch me… drumrolls 🥁 he said why ? Are you my sister.

You couldn’t make it up. Is the only women he is discouraged from touching without consent is his sister. It is hopeless.

the government has not said though that migrants are likely to rape women (Reform has said that). Maybe they simply want to be seen to be addressing concerns? Although I think it has backfired.

Labour just published a leaflet aimed at men who don’t know it.

The OP was worried about her safety due to migrants, so rape in marriage is irrelevant here. No need to be so combative-as I’m sure you realise, I think you would struggle to find any adults in the UK who think rape, whether within marriage or not, is acceptable.

As I understand it, rape is illegal in Aghanistan but the Taliban do not enforce the law so rape goes unpunished. But ordinary Afghans do not generally support the Taliban and the majority of them are Muslims and rape goes against Islam. So, yes, loosely speaking, it is fair to say that the Taliban encourage rape, but I’m pretty sure it is very unfair to say that Afghans in general think rape is Ok.

Tell that to the Taliban, I'm sure they'll thank you. Why does child marriage and therefore legal child rape, exist in so many Muslim countries? Does that not count as rape in your eyes for some reason?

Undocumented men from countries like Afghanistan will be more likely to gravitate towards their own communities, bringing their awful attitudes to women into communities that have left it all behind and are enjoying more freedom ( mainly the women). Some of them have come here to escape persecution, yet the criminal elements they left behind are now turning up here. Are they being protected by unknown men being dumped on them? There was a little girl who drowned a couple of years ago in the Channel. Their parents were escaping their own family, who were trying to kill them for marrying outside their clan. They had had to move from country to country across Europe because the people who were trying to kill them were also able to follow them across Europe illegally. There are established Asian communities in the Midlands who are shocked that they have sectarian violence amongst Hindus and Muslims being dragged into their communities when they have been minding their own business for 40 years. It's all very well making a moral equivalence between a country that stones women to death for adultery if they are raped and a country where rape is illegal from a White leafy suburb by virtue signalling 'white men are more of a risk' (obviously they are 90% of the male population)-when it is Black and Asian women who are most at risk from these attitudes, and poor communities with limited resources who are the ones which suffer the most. We don't know who these people are. Boko Haram have just killed a load of Muslims in Nigeria for not being Islamic enough. If any of them turned up here on a boat, they would just be a ' poor oppressed misunderstood young man' to some. How do you think Moderate Muslim communities would feel having a person like that next door?

There are countries that actively promote rape? That sounds unlikely Which ones? I agree that some countries suppress women. Rape is totally against the teachings of Islam just as in Christianity.

What a racist comment. Are you actually suggesting that black and brown British women have no independent thought or agency? Do you really think that they cannot possibly have the same concerns or questions about unknown, undocumented men as white women?

How does letting in men from deeply misogynistic countries, help stop rape then? Does it make the situation better or worse for women?

@Peedoffdoesntcutit

I'm really sorry this thread has attracted so many vawg apologists. Supporting men from cultures where women are subjugated is now seen as progressive it seems. Perhaps they're shouting louder because they know they've lost the argument.
You're not alone in your views.