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AIBU to be angry that my husband is unconcerned about women’s safety?

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Peedoffdoesntcutit · 21/08/2026 19:59

To be pissed off with my husband. I said how upset I am that the child abuse and rape leaflet from the government is judged as necessary and we are continuing to let these men into our country who pose a threat to women. He just shrugged - I said doesn’t it bother you these men are coming into our society. We have daughters , I am a woman. I absolutely do not feel safe anymore where we live and would not walk on my own anymore. He said no not really. Absolutely furious with him. Does he not have to care as he’s a big tall man? I’m so pissed off, I’ve walked off and he’s given me the ick.

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Switchnow · 22/08/2026 11:23

@Peedoffdoesntcutit What country did you come from, and do you feel safer here or there? On the whole it is safe for you to go to the park and walk around by yourself and it’s sad to hear you feel unable to do that where you live, especially having come here from another country, presumably in the hope that life would be better here. As a higher rate tax payer I’d imagine you can move to a better part of town.

Not unreasonable to expect your husband to take your concerns seriously but is it possible that he’s seeing you become scared without needing to? As women we always need to be cautious but scared is extreme. He probably just wants you to be happy.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 11:10

EstherGreenwood63 · 22/08/2026 11:01

Ah, the 'race to the bottom' argument...the 'whataboutery'. 🥱

That's rich!!!

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 11:05

EstherGreenwood63 · 22/08/2026 11:01

Ah, the 'race to the bottom' argument...the 'whataboutery'. 🥱

So the treatment of women by men in Afghanistan bores you. How progressive you are.
Its not whataboutery. Who do you think is abusing women in Afghanistan? The same men who are coming here.

EasternStandard · 22/08/2026 11:01

Error404FucksNotFound · 22/08/2026 10:52

"Happily say I’m culturist- we have a safe culture for women and women are seen as equal. Women here are respected."

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like fuck we are.

Where would you say is better for women and girls? Here or Afghanistan

EstherGreenwood63 · 22/08/2026 11:01

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:58

Are we respected more than women in Afghanistan? Are we safer?
Don't know about you, but I don't need to be covered head to toe, stay away from windows and refrain from singing. My dds will be going out without a chaperone today, wearing shorts if they wish, and won't be getting married until they are adults and consent. They're also allowed to go to school - shock horror.

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Ah, the 'race to the bottom' argument...the 'whataboutery'. 🥱

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:58

Error404FucksNotFound · 22/08/2026 10:52

"Happily say I’m culturist- we have a safe culture for women and women are seen as equal. Women here are respected."

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like fuck we are.

Are we respected more than women in Afghanistan? Are we safer?
Don't know about you, but I don't need to be covered head to toe, stay away from windows and refrain from singing. My dds will be going out without a chaperone today, wearing shorts if they wish, and won't be getting married until they are adults and consent. They're also allowed to go to school - shock horror.

Cheese55 · 22/08/2026 10:54

MaturingCheeseball · 22/08/2026 10:23

Eh? Why did they produce it, then? Why are they giving it to a particular group of men?

Are you one of the posters saying it is a needless waste of paper (and multiple translations) because it is quite unnecessary; these men present no danger.

There is a lot of other information in the booklet about UK and is used in an attempt to 'assimilate'.

Error404FucksNotFound · 22/08/2026 10:52

"Happily say I’m culturist- we have a safe culture for women and women are seen as equal. Women here are respected."

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like fuck we are.

Cheese55 · 22/08/2026 10:49

JLou08 · 22/08/2026 09:14

Most of it's funded by the local authority so I wouldn't have any faith in the wages increasing, they'd sit back and watch it crumble and be glad of the savings they make whilst people are waiting longer to find care. I work for a Reform council and they already pull out all the stops to delay and reduce the care people receive so they can make savings.

Local authorities pay the private companies to deliver care but don't have any say how much of that hourly rate goes to the carer.If the care companies couldn't recruit any carers and couldn't go abroad, they would have to pay the staff more to recruit them.

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:48

MaturingCheeseball · 22/08/2026 09:38

I am dismayed at this thread. Insulting the OP, minimising the issue, shutting down.

Yes, women must SHUT UP and PUT UP because thousands of undocumented largely uneducated men from countries with poor attitudes towards women present no threat at all . Just give them a leaflet (not that they need it, posters hasten to add) and any “cultural misunderstandings” are instantly cleared up! Let us welcome hundreds of thousands more men, you racist bigots!

Yep, it's depressing to read. Even worse coming from women.

YANBU OP.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 10:41

Confrontayshunme · 22/08/2026 09:06

Do we live in the same country? I work with DV survivors and child abuse survivors regularly and the vast majority of their perpetrators are British. Reckon they could do with that leaflet being sent to all British people as well.

Do you live in the same country as the rest of us? If you did you would know a little calculation called per capita exists. How many more times.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 10:38

EstherGreenwood63 · 22/08/2026 09:34

Lots more fellaz knocking around here is one answer. Internalized misogyny is another.

💯 you can tell when you're talking to a bloke on here.

MaturingCheeseball · 22/08/2026 10:23

dizzydizzydizzy · 22/08/2026 10:07

While I have some sympathy with you - men often do not understand the risks that we as women routinely face - I also I think you are making a lot of assumptions. The government producing the leaflet doesn’t automatically mean that they think these men are a particular risk.

Eh? Why did they produce it, then? Why are they giving it to a particular group of men?

Are you one of the posters saying it is a needless waste of paper (and multiple translations) because it is quite unnecessary; these men present no danger.

dizzydizzydizzy · 22/08/2026 10:07

While I have some sympathy with you - men often do not understand the risks that we as women routinely face - I also I think you are making a lot of assumptions. The government producing the leaflet doesn’t automatically mean that they think these men are a particular risk.

Boomer55 · 22/08/2026 09:47

Bogliasco · 21/08/2026 20:51

No. The Pakistani grooming gangs were convicted so no one was let off.

Also, in the olden days they were called paedophile rings and they were made up of white men.

These guys look pretty white to me. And they raped 2 year olds. So yes. White men clearly need to hear this message too.

BBC News - Paedophile ring jailed for 'terrifying depravity' - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235

They haven’t all been convicted by any means.🤷‍♀️

There was a three part documentary on last week - Groomed/Channel 4, telling the story of what happened when children/young girls in Barrow in Furness tried to report what was going on.

One young girl was actually jailed, and is still forbidden from speaking to media. 🙄

DarkchocolateAndtea · 22/08/2026 09:46

angelos02 · 22/08/2026 08:47

If there is no evidence that people from certain cultures are more of a risk, then just release the data. Pretty simple wouldn't you think!

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Is it not incase vigilantes attack everyone from that background if the data came out? Could it not cause a lot of other issues?

EasternStandard · 22/08/2026 09:46

MaturingCheeseball · 22/08/2026 09:38

I am dismayed at this thread. Insulting the OP, minimising the issue, shutting down.

Yes, women must SHUT UP and PUT UP because thousands of undocumented largely uneducated men from countries with poor attitudes towards women present no threat at all . Just give them a leaflet (not that they need it, posters hasten to add) and any “cultural misunderstandings” are instantly cleared up! Let us welcome hundreds of thousands more men, you racist bigots!

Depressing to see

PrincessofWills · 22/08/2026 09:43

WorkHardPlay · 22/08/2026 01:05

But no one suggested that. They did suggest that the UK has a culture where women are legally protected (whether or not people choose to follow those laws) - and it is clear in comparison by Country, and comparison of per capita data, that yes - our culture is far safer for women in comparison.

Would I feel more unsafe if there was a group of undocumented Afghan men waiting outside a nightclub vs a group of British men … yes, and the statistics show why.

The statistics show that if you attend that nightclub with your partner, he's the one most likely to kill you.

Tabbitha · 22/08/2026 09:43

fumingrightnow1 · 21/08/2026 20:10

Black people can be racist too

Love this!! I have a friend who is muslim and didn't think she was racist when referring to a Chinese man as Chinky. I called her out on it and she went so red. She just didn't think herself as racist 🤣

MaturingCheeseball · 22/08/2026 09:38

I am dismayed at this thread. Insulting the OP, minimising the issue, shutting down.

Yes, women must SHUT UP and PUT UP because thousands of undocumented largely uneducated men from countries with poor attitudes towards women present no threat at all . Just give them a leaflet (not that they need it, posters hasten to add) and any “cultural misunderstandings” are instantly cleared up! Let us welcome hundreds of thousands more men, you racist bigots!

EstherGreenwood63 · 22/08/2026 09:34

EasternStandard · 22/08/2026 09:12

Not sure why it happens on mn this much.

Lots more fellaz knocking around here is one answer. Internalized misogyny is another.

EstherGreenwood63 · 22/08/2026 09:32

Yes, the whataboutery is SO telling. 🥱

InconsiderateBoyf · 22/08/2026 09:24

Bogliasco · 21/08/2026 20:08

There's plenty of White British men raping women so perhaps this leaflet could be posted to all UK men to remind them not to rape because lord knows they need it.

This.

Rapists are husbands, fathers, teachers, policemen, firemen etc.

Unfortunately the problem is societal as a whole.

I try to focus on the fact it's Not all men, so we don't turn into a man hating society... but I read posts on here where men haven't stood up for women against other creepy men and therein lies part of the problem.

Men need to protect. Not rape.

itsgettingweird · 22/08/2026 09:22

BoredZelda · 21/08/2026 20:03

Are these leaflets going in to schools?

They don’t need to directly.

Consent etc is already covered in the curriculum.

So our children get the education at school and the people claiming asylum haven’t had it so get it on arrival.

Unfortunately there will always be be some men who receive this education who will rape anyway.

I think the lack of prosecutions doesn’t help here as the deterrent isn’t anyway high enough.

JLou08 · 22/08/2026 09:14

Cheese55 · 22/08/2026 08:47

The care sector would have put its wages up if we stopped exploiting overseas staff, as it would become a more attractive job to UK staff.

Most of it's funded by the local authority so I wouldn't have any faith in the wages increasing, they'd sit back and watch it crumble and be glad of the savings they make whilst people are waiting longer to find care. I work for a Reform council and they already pull out all the stops to delay and reduce the care people receive so they can make savings.