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AIBU to be angry about comments on my granddaughters' names?

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Ellenay · 21/08/2026 17:59

So, I have 5 grandchildren, this weekend I’m looking after all of them, my daughter and her husband are away to a wedding in France and my son and his wife have booked a little spa weekend.

I popped in to see some of my friends with them as I don’t often have the children and my friends like seeing them.

One of my friends had some other friends I’ve not met before over but we joined them. After introducing the children and then being sent to the kitchen to get a lollipop, one of these friends said oh don’t all the girls have little showgirl names, I must have looked a bit shocked as someone else then jumped in and said oh she doesn’t mean p*rnstar just very moulin rouge.

I just said I thought their names were lovely and moved on but now I’m back home I’m furious, I’m furious I didn’t give her a piece of my mind.

AIBU to think this is an absurd thing to say about children’s names?!

OP posts:
Rpop · 22/08/2026 07:32

Ellenay · 21/08/2026 18:14

No, not Kitty. I fear this thread is just going to turn into a guessing game of their names instead of actually discussing the woman’s manners so I will share their names.
Lola, Roxy and Ruby.

I wasn’t quite sure what showgirl meant - I didn’t think it was critical. I just googled it and I guess I kind of knew - it’s more a moulin rouge, Chicago musical kind of vibe. Isn’t Roxy from one of those shows? I honestly don’t think it was meant at all badly. I guess I just associate Roxy with Chicago (though don’t actually know if there is a Roxy in Chicago). So definitely a musical theatre kind of thing. No more and no less. I honestly don’t think she would have made the comment if she thought it was more burlesque (which showgirl does not mean)….

redfairy · 22/08/2026 07:20

I don't think it was rude. Just an observation and your lovely friend stepped in when they saw your discomfort. My granddaughter's names sound like an old irish man and a fairy but I keep that to myself-- shame the acquaintance didn't do the same.

Newname17192864627 · 22/08/2026 06:11

Meh - she just said something that came to her mind, and the fact she says it means she likely doesn't see it as an insult. You're just interpreting it as an insult.

I would probably have laughed and said yeah I guess you're right my children love a bit of drama or something along those lines.

maxslice · 22/08/2026 05:39

SaltyandSweet · 22/08/2026 02:09

Very surprised that the majority think you’re unreasonable, OP! I think how your friends’ phrased their comments were rude and unnecessary- I mean “showgirl” isnt exactly complimentary is it; it is in fact misogynistic and demeaning
i would try to let it go OP, perhaps it was a clumsy way of commenting on names they perceive to be non-traditional?

They weren’t her friends. They were friends of her friends.

grinandslothit · 22/08/2026 05:23

Some women can't stop themselves from being catty she's one of them

I reckon you could have said something about her name too

ItsNotMeEither · 22/08/2026 05:14

It may also depend on the person's age. As soon as you mentioned showgirl name, my brain went straight to Lola, for the exact same reason as someone else posted.

“Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl
With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there..”

A musical fan would probably also have Roxy in mind too.

For what it's worth, I quite like the name Lola. Thinking it's a showgirl name doesn't mean that she didn't like it.

Aside from all of that, I'm a teacher, any name, and I mean any name, it doesn't matter what I think of the name, once you get to know a child, they all seem to suit their names. So, I might think Hugo is a bit of an 'old man' name, doesn't mean I don't think Hugo is a fantastic kid, who totally suits his own name (and he's nothing like an old man - he's a clever and kind Hugo).

I think the person you met was just making small talk without giving ig another thought, while you've spent waaaaay too much time overthinking this.

Fast800goingforit · 22/08/2026 04:59

It was a crass remark OP. You should have asked her what she meant and watched her squirm as she tried to explain. What an arse.

SweetnsourNZ · 22/08/2026 04:53

ExtraOnions · 21/08/2026 18:03

What are they called ? Star? Dita? Fifi ? Roxy? Kitty?

Are they theatrical names ?

Don’t understand why you are furious ? I’m sure they weren’t intimating they were named after porn actors.

I'm thinking that she meant theatrical or romantic. No normal person would be leaning to the pornstar direction about little children.

EmpressSisi · 22/08/2026 04:48

Drivingmissrangey · 22/08/2026 00:07

Not sure anyone is naming their kid Rolf nowadays…

🤣🤣🤣

🫣🫣🫣

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/08/2026 04:13

Impossiblyme · 21/08/2026 18:18

Just think - if they ever formed a singing group, they could do a Barry Manilow medley.

You're not helping 😂 😆 😂 😆 😂

researchers3 · 22/08/2026 03:33

Ellenay · 21/08/2026 18:14

No, not Kitty. I fear this thread is just going to turn into a guessing game of their names instead of actually discussing the woman’s manners so I will share their names.
Lola, Roxy and Ruby.

She was probably trying to be witty and missed the mark.

They're good names. Don't let it bother you any more.

Zapx · 22/08/2026 03:33

In my circle the kiddo would be lucky not to be named “Copacabana” instead.

I highly doubt there was malice there, maybe a bit careless, don’t personally see what there is to be furious about. My children’s names rhyme. It gets pointed out, a lot. We knew what we were in for when we named them that! Similarly, I’d imagine your DD did too, and your friend just happened to mention it.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2026 03:29

Ellenay · 21/08/2026 18:09

Irrespective of whether they are or aren’t showgirl names, I just don’t think it something you say out loud. I wouldn’t say out loud if I thought a name was pretentious or tacky or whatever as it’s just not a helpful or needed comment.

I agree.

The person who made the remark was rude and crass.

How close is she to the friend who was hosting?

OtterlyAstounding · 22/08/2026 02:33

SaltyandSweet · 22/08/2026 02:09

Very surprised that the majority think you’re unreasonable, OP! I think how your friends’ phrased their comments were rude and unnecessary- I mean “showgirl” isnt exactly complimentary is it; it is in fact misogynistic and demeaning
i would try to let it go OP, perhaps it was a clumsy way of commenting on names they perceive to be non-traditional?

How is pointing out that the names do have strong showgirl associations misogynistic and demeaning, but naming them that isn't, then? It doesn't make sense. It's like naming your children Hannibal, Patrick, and Jason, and then getting angry when people point out those are serial killers' names. That's the cultural association and people will pick up on it, even if they don't say anything.

SaltyandSweet · 22/08/2026 02:09

Very surprised that the majority think you’re unreasonable, OP! I think how your friends’ phrased their comments were rude and unnecessary- I mean “showgirl” isnt exactly complimentary is it; it is in fact misogynistic and demeaning
i would try to let it go OP, perhaps it was a clumsy way of commenting on names they perceive to be non-traditional?

Mumtotornadoes · 22/08/2026 01:22

But they are showgirl names? She's just pointing out a trend. She didn't express an opinion on that. It's like saying "oh don't all the girls have such vintage names" "oh all the boys have biblical names" it's just commenting on a trend. People always comment on my boys having the same hair colour. It's just what people do. Most of the time they don't express an opinion either way, just inform me of my childrens hair colour really. I don't expect it's intended as an insult.

bittertwisted · 22/08/2026 01:21

I love the names, and they really go together for sisters

Kokonimater · 22/08/2026 01:21

Oh. I’ve read all the posts now.
It comes from the song ‘her name was Lola, she was a showgirl …’ from the song by Barry Manilow.
The friend just heard the names and it reminded her. Just a throwaway comment. No malice intended.

Kokonimater · 22/08/2026 01:14

Can you give me a definition of ‘show girl name’. I genuinely don’t get it.
is it like a rock-chick name? Help!

Hollyhobbi · 22/08/2026 01:12

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2026 18:14

Like with anything anybody else says some will people will be offended by it and others won’t.

Personally unless someone is racist etc then I choose not to be offended and assume it’s just a comment that’s offended me but was intentionally meant to do so.

I also assumed Lola and Roxy. I have friends with kids names this.

My daughter’s friend is Lola and her sister is Ruby!

OtterlyAstounding · 22/08/2026 01:07

YABU. The names do have 'showgirl' connotations/connections, so it's silly to be furious at someone for noticing that, if they weren't being negative.

emptygoosenest · 22/08/2026 01:04

They are showgirl names, it was rude was your friend to say this thought out loud because it would rarely be meant as a compliment.

ClairDeLaLune · 22/08/2026 00:42

Ellenay · 21/08/2026 18:14

No, not Kitty. I fear this thread is just going to turn into a guessing game of their names instead of actually discussing the woman’s manners so I will share their names.
Lola, Roxy and Ruby.

Crikey, this is a bit outing OP. I’d ask for it to be taken down if I were you.

sheisforrealatiger · 22/08/2026 00:38

Saz12 · 22/08/2026 00:09

I wouldve been pretty grossed out if people thought of my squidgy little newborn / toddler/ 4 year old as a "showgirl" then assumed that saying "no, dint be daft, not a pornstar, more moulin rouge" made it ok.

Theyre just wee children! Assuming name isnt Busty Babs, wtf???

They’re not saying anything about the child. they’re saying the names are showgirl names.

I doubt the OP would be complaining if all her grandchildren were named after Jane Austen characters and someone pointed that out. Despite it being just as much an observation/fact.

Anonyanonay · 22/08/2026 00:37

Lola?