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AIBU to be angry about comments on my granddaughters' names?

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Ellenay · 21/08/2026 17:59

So, I have 5 grandchildren, this weekend I’m looking after all of them, my daughter and her husband are away to a wedding in France and my son and his wife have booked a little spa weekend.

I popped in to see some of my friends with them as I don’t often have the children and my friends like seeing them.

One of my friends had some other friends I’ve not met before over but we joined them. After introducing the children and then being sent to the kitchen to get a lollipop, one of these friends said oh don’t all the girls have little showgirl names, I must have looked a bit shocked as someone else then jumped in and said oh she doesn’t mean p*rnstar just very moulin rouge.

I just said I thought their names were lovely and moved on but now I’m back home I’m furious, I’m furious I didn’t give her a piece of my mind.

AIBU to think this is an absurd thing to say about children’s names?!

OP posts:
TallagallaPenguin · 23/08/2026 10:30

OvernightBloats · 23/08/2026 09:13

I think it is the opposite. 'Showgirl' used to have more negative, sexualised connotations, but in recent times, those connotations are not there in the same way.

A lot of people on this thread have said they don't think that showgirl is a negative term. It just means a glamorous dancer/singer in showy/glitzy surroundings. The sexual meaning is not there like it had been in the past.

Even Taylor Swift describes herself as a showgirl. She is as modern and contemporary as you can get!

Agree!

TunnocksOrDeath · 23/08/2026 10:18

WaffleCity85 · 21/08/2026 18:19

At least she didn’t say they sound like dog names, which is what I’d have thought. Now I have the song Lola, she was a showgirl.. song in my head all night.

Aw Barry! It doesn't end well for poor Lola does it...
"Still in the dress she used to wear, faded feathers in her hair, she sits there so refined, and drinks herself half blind. She lost her youth and she lost her Tony. Now she's Lost. Her. Mind. at the Copa!"

Bluddyellfire · 23/08/2026 10:10

My friend's bulldogs are called Lola and Roxy

AngelaP71 · 23/08/2026 09:56

Ellenay · 23/08/2026 09:08

Gosh Sunday morning has really brought some very cruel people out.
Do you feel good saying children’s names are awful? Do you often bully children’s names like that?

You know there is always the option where if you have nothing helpful to add to the thread you just don’t comment.

There are some exceptionally rude people on here. I don't know what they get out of it.

The original comment made was ill-judged, probably not meant to be offensive, but I can understand you feeling sensitive about remarks about the names of children you love.

My daughter said the name of my new granddaughter (her niece) was a "middle-aged woman" name 😄 which I was a little miffed about. (I don't agree by the way, I think it's a beautiful and classic name!)

Rpop · 23/08/2026 09:44

Ellenay · 23/08/2026 09:08

Gosh Sunday morning has really brought some very cruel people out.
Do you feel good saying children’s names are awful? Do you often bully children’s names like that?

You know there is always the option where if you have nothing helpful to add to the thread you just don’t comment.

Ignore the hurtful comments. We all have such different taste in names. I was reading a thread yesterday in which both of my children’s names had been listed as names people don’t like. They are quite standard names but still not liked!! I don’t care!

Namechangingregularly · 23/08/2026 09:28

Ellenay · 22/08/2026 11:36

What do you take as a class signifier? Education? Hobbies? Taste?
As sure I wouldn’t say my DD is exactly the durham grad, who wears Boden etc.
But she had a career in ballet after graduating from a top international ballet school then moved into other elements of the creative world (rehearsal direction, choreography and production), so she is hardly nouveau riche.

So she’s a …. Showgirl 🤣🤣🤣

Calliopespa · 23/08/2026 09:24

Alwaysthelastone · 23/08/2026 08:03

I think they’re great names OP. I was going to call my kid Roxy if he’d been a girl. They’re also (esp Lola and Ruby) pretty common names for girls nowadays so anyone associating them with showgirls rather than a popular name for girls in the 2010s/20s is just showing their age!

They’re also (esp Lola and Ruby) pretty common names for girls nowadays so anyone associating them with showgirls rather than a popular name for girls in the 2010s/20s is just showing their age!

This OP.

Yes, there is a showgirl link. Yes I think your friend, given her age, probably intended to be a bit snide (if I am honest)

BUT for all of that, and putting aside that incident, I don't think you need to worry that too many people will think anything too negative - certainly not in your granddaughters' worlds. Those names are back in circulation and relatively uncontroversial. Having three of them together amps up the associations a bit, but they are nonetheless not particularly eyebrow-raising in and of themselves - a bit like John doesn't scream Biblical, but if his brothers were Matthew, Luke and Mark it amps up that feel. But again, normal names in and of themselves.

MarilynMerlot · 23/08/2026 09:20

I think it was a neutral comment personally and you are overreacting. Having revealed the names they are ‘showgirl’ names but that doesn’t automatically mean negative! Could have meant glam, etc

Bananacrepewithnuts · 23/08/2026 09:13

Ellenay · 23/08/2026 09:08

Gosh Sunday morning has really brought some very cruel people out.
Do you feel good saying children’s names are awful? Do you often bully children’s names like that?

You know there is always the option where if you have nothing helpful to add to the thread you just don’t comment.

I really like their names.

Your friends comment was ill judged but sometimes it happens.
X

OvernightBloats · 23/08/2026 09:13

Alwaysthelastone · 23/08/2026 07:52

I think (maybe I’m wrong) but how you interpret “showgirl” depends on your age. I’m early 40s and I’d get pornstar vibes from it. But maybe if you’re older (assuming you and your friends are a couple decades older being a grandma of 5) a showgirl is seen as more innocent entertainment/positive. Correct me if I’m wrong, it’s just a theory. If I am wrong then yes I agree with you, I’d be pissed off if someone said that about my daughter’s name too. I can’t understand why anyone would say anything other than an obviously positive comment to a parent or grandparent about their kid’s name. It’s so obviously going to cause offence. Maybe your friend is just not very good socially. I’m not an overly sensitive person but if anyone says anything negative about my kids it hurts and my protective mum heckles get raised. It’s normal. Someone made a ginger joke about my 4 yo son’s hair the other day that I was meant to find funny. I wanted to punch him in the face.

I think it is the opposite. 'Showgirl' used to have more negative, sexualised connotations, but in recent times, those connotations are not there in the same way.

A lot of people on this thread have said they don't think that showgirl is a negative term. It just means a glamorous dancer/singer in showy/glitzy surroundings. The sexual meaning is not there like it had been in the past.

Even Taylor Swift describes herself as a showgirl. She is as modern and contemporary as you can get!

Ellenay · 23/08/2026 09:08

bananaobama · 23/08/2026 08:54

the angwr should be with your daughter/son for saddling the poor little girls with such awful names

Gosh Sunday morning has really brought some very cruel people out.
Do you feel good saying children’s names are awful? Do you often bully children’s names like that?

You know there is always the option where if you have nothing helpful to add to the thread you just don’t comment.

OP posts:
bananaobama · 23/08/2026 08:54

the angwr should be with your daughter/son for saddling the poor little girls with such awful names

bananaobama · 23/08/2026 08:53

her name was Lola, she was a showgirl

Roxanne! You dont have to put on the red light!

goodbye Ruby Tuesday

nah, not snowgirl at all

ScartlettSole · 23/08/2026 08:50

Ellenay · 21/08/2026 18:14

No, not Kitty. I fear this thread is just going to turn into a guessing game of their names instead of actually discussing the woman’s manners so I will share their names.
Lola, Roxy and Ruby.

I don't get why you are annoyed or shocked, they are literally showgirl names. Also pet names because I know a fair amount of dogs and cats with these names 😂
One puppy is Lola after the showgirl song!

Lomonald · 23/08/2026 08:47

Grendel7 · 23/08/2026 01:35

Fine names for little girls but when you are 45 and doing a presentation to the board of directors?

Jeez 😂

Alwaysthelastone · 23/08/2026 08:03

I think they’re great names OP. I was going to call my kid Roxy if he’d been a girl. They’re also (esp Lola and Ruby) pretty common names for girls nowadays so anyone associating them with showgirls rather than a popular name for girls in the 2010s/20s is just showing their age!

Alwaysthelastone · 23/08/2026 07:58

Libertoo · 23/08/2026 03:54

Lola, Roxy and Ruby? I feel like I’ve just stepped into Eastenders ~20 years ago 😂

Why are people on MN so horrible? Genuinely curious. The OP’s come on here upset about her friend commenting on the names, she’s looking for advice and reassurance. And you make this comment that you know is going to cause another woman who has done nothing to you, to feel more upset. Just why? Is your life really so shite that the only way you can find a scrap of joy is to make someone else feel rubbish? (But of course only on an anonymous internet forum cos you wouldn’t have the guts to do it IRL)

Alwaysthelastone · 23/08/2026 07:52

I think (maybe I’m wrong) but how you interpret “showgirl” depends on your age. I’m early 40s and I’d get pornstar vibes from it. But maybe if you’re older (assuming you and your friends are a couple decades older being a grandma of 5) a showgirl is seen as more innocent entertainment/positive. Correct me if I’m wrong, it’s just a theory. If I am wrong then yes I agree with you, I’d be pissed off if someone said that about my daughter’s name too. I can’t understand why anyone would say anything other than an obviously positive comment to a parent or grandparent about their kid’s name. It’s so obviously going to cause offence. Maybe your friend is just not very good socially. I’m not an overly sensitive person but if anyone says anything negative about my kids it hurts and my protective mum heckles get raised. It’s normal. Someone made a ginger joke about my 4 yo son’s hair the other day that I was meant to find funny. I wanted to punch him in the face.

Winglessvulture · 23/08/2026 07:51

Whatever the names are, its not a kind or appropriate thing to say to the grandmother of those children.

Seajaye · 23/08/2026 06:25

It was just a stupid snobby comment. A. Bit like saying someone is common. Rude person.

You could have said ' oh really, rather like yours back in the day '

Libertoo · 23/08/2026 03:54

Ellenay · 21/08/2026 18:14

No, not Kitty. I fear this thread is just going to turn into a guessing game of their names instead of actually discussing the woman’s manners so I will share their names.
Lola, Roxy and Ruby.

Lola, Roxy and Ruby? I feel like I’ve just stepped into Eastenders ~20 years ago 😂

GoldenNuggets08 · 23/08/2026 03:19

Grendel7 · 23/08/2026 01:35

Fine names for little girls but when you are 45 and doing a presentation to the board of directors?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this ole line gets thrown around all the time and in this day and age its frankly boring. What would you do if you were in a board room meeting and someone stood up to present and said "my name is Ruby" what would your reaction be? Because I wouldnt bat an eyelid.

Grendel7 · 23/08/2026 01:35

Tarryawhile · 21/08/2026 18:42

Lovely names, I like them and she was being bitchy.

Fine names for little girls but when you are 45 and doing a presentation to the board of directors?

Grendel7 · 23/08/2026 01:34

RobertaFirmino · 21/08/2026 18:39

When meeting a Lola, surely it is better to think of Barry Manilow than The Kinks.

Well considering the Lola in the Kinks song wasn't even female,yes!

Grendel7 · 23/08/2026 01:28

WaffleCity85 · 21/08/2026 18:19

At least she didn’t say they sound like dog names, which is what I’d have thought. Now I have the song Lola, she was a showgirl.. song in my head all night.

My neighbour has had dogs with all three of those names.

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