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AIBU to expect my sister to accept my fourth pregnancy when she is child free not by choice ?

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TheFunnyPoet · 21/08/2026 14:09

My husband and I have been together for 11 years and married for 9. He is 49 and I’m 38.
He has two older children from his previous marriage, both of whom are still very much part of our household. They split their time between us and their mum, although realistically they’re here a lot. So although this will technically be my husband and my fourth child together, we already have a very full house. We’ve recently announced that we’re expecting our fourth baby together.

I’m obviously over the moon. This baby was planned, wanted and very much conceived because we both genuinely wanted another child. This is our last DH has since had a vasectomy.My sister, however, has taken the news really badly.She’s 44 and with a lovely partner who does have children. She was married for quite a long time to her ex, and apparently he had always told her that he “might” want children eventually. She waited because she loved him and trusted that he would change his mind.He never did.
They eventually separated and divorced and she’s now in the position of being childless when having children is something she desperately wants.

She has said to me that every single one of my pregnancies has felt like a punch in the stomach because I already have three children and am now having a fourth.
I completely understand that she’s hurting, and I have tried to be sensitive. I don't constantly talk about the pregnancy around her I’ve even avoided discussing names etc.
But she has now basically said that she feels I’m being incredibly insensitive by having another baby when I know how desperately she wants one.

This is where I’m struggling.I feel awful for her. I genuinely do. I can’t imagine wanting a child for years and not having one.
But at the same time, what exactly am I
supposed to do? My sister's situation isn't something I can fix. I can't give her my baby, and I don't think it's reasonable for me to not have my baby because she hasn't been able to have one.And, if I'm being completely honest, there is a part of me that feels angry because she chose to stay with a man for years who she knew was ambivalent about having children. She says he manipulated her and strung her along, whereas I think at some point she also had to make a choice about whether to stay.

I haven’t said that last part to her because I know it would be incredibly hurtful.
My husband thinks I’m being far too considerate already and says that while we should obviously be kind to her, our family planning is nobody else’s business.
My mum, however, has told me I need to “put myself in my sister’s shoes” and perhaps accept that she might not want much contact with me during the pregnancy or after the baby is born. I am fine with no contact my life shouldn’t stop for her to be happy.

I’m finding that difficult because we’ve always been very close, and I don't want my sister to resent my baby before he/she is even born.

I’m not asking whether I should have had the baby that ship has obviously sailed. I’m asking whether I’m being unreasonable in expecting my sister to accept that I’m allowed to be happy about my pregnancy despite knowing how painful it is for her.

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speakball · 29/08/2026 06:48

Everyone and anyone is "allowed" to feel sad about anything they like, for as long as they like.

which includes feeling sad about having a spiteful sister.

Joliefolie · 26/08/2026 11:41

Everyone and anyone is "allowed" to feel sad about anything they like, for as long as they like.

MrsShawnHatosy · 26/08/2026 09:56

Holeymoley28 · 25/08/2026 15:38

Because then she won’t have her get out of free jail card for being a snarky sod.

She’s still allowed to feel sad about not having children even if she feels her time for having one is past.

Ant1cs · 26/08/2026 00:36

Holeymoley28 · 25/08/2026 15:38

Because then she won’t have her get out of free jail card for being a snarky sod.

It takes one to know one 🙄

Holeymoley28 · 25/08/2026 15:38

Copperoliverbear · 25/08/2026 15:20

Why can she not have a baby now ? My cousin had one at 46.

Because then she won’t have her get out of free jail card for being a snarky sod.

Copperoliverbear · 25/08/2026 15:20

Why can she not have a baby now ? My cousin had one at 46.

phoenixrosehere · 25/08/2026 13:29

Wadsworthy · 23/08/2026 19:45

This sister isn’t involuntarily childless. She could have a child on her own if she chose to. She’s not infertile and until she is in menopause, she can still get pregnant unless she actually is infertile and hasn’t told OP.

I think people who haven't experienced social infertility have no idea what it's like. W're told this sort of thing: "If you really wanted a child, you'd have had one on your own." Generally said by women in secure partnerships.

It's as complex as medical inferyility, and difficult because it looks so easily solved: just gho to the sperm bank.

But like the OP's sister, it can be tangled up with wanting an actual father for one's child, or wanting a specific father. How terrible!

Having a choild on one's own is still very very difficult, in all sorts of ways: physically, financially, and also emotionally.

The OP's sister wanted a family with a specific man. He cheated her f her opportunity. Have some compassion, or at least try to imagine what some women go through.

What makes you think I don’t?

Is it sad that she wasted her years on a man who actually didn’t want to have children with her and and then went on to have children with someone else?

Yes but it doesn’t override her behaviour towards others.

Her behaviour towards OP and other friends were and is unnecessary, spiteful and she continues to make them while expecting these same people to simply take it because they have something she desires.

Why should they consult her before they have a child? Why is it her business whether they have children or not? Why is it fine for her to treat people such a way who are supposed to be her family and friends?

It isn’t.

I know some people detest this phrase but two things can exist as once.

You can think what happened to her was sad while thinking her continued behaviour is uncalled for.

MissChanandlerBonng · 25/08/2026 11:29

Lexibletheflexible · 25/08/2026 10:14

I said what I'd do.

Hypothetical surrogacy is even more amazing than the usual hypothetical MN giving away of a large inheritance - gold star for you

MissChanandlerBonng · 25/08/2026 11:27

BogRollBOGOF · 25/08/2026 08:38

Everyone goes through life with some kind of regret/ grief. Most people manage not to be spiteful about it.

Agreed

Joliefolie · 25/08/2026 10:34

You'd said what you'd do in these circumstances but in these circumstances it would make absolutely no sense and so would just add to the grief.

Lexibletheflexible · 25/08/2026 10:14

Joliefolie · 25/08/2026 10:08

Why surrogacy? Where would the foetus you are suggesting the OP should carry to birth going to come from? The OP is 38, has 3 children and is pregnant. When do you suggest she tries to become pregnant again in order to be a surrogate for her sister?

I said what I'd do.

Joliefolie · 25/08/2026 10:08

Lexibletheflexible · 25/08/2026 07:52

I'd offer to be a surrogate for my sister in those circumstances.

Why surrogacy? Where would the foetus you are suggesting the OP should carry to birth going to come from? The OP is 38, has 3 children and is pregnant. When do you suggest she tries to become pregnant again in order to be a surrogate for her sister?

BogRollBOGOF · 25/08/2026 08:38

Everyone goes through life with some kind of regret/ grief. Most people manage not to be spiteful about it.

Lexibletheflexible · 25/08/2026 07:52

I'd offer to be a surrogate for my sister in those circumstances.

Timeforachange26 · 25/08/2026 07:48

TheFunnyPoet · 21/08/2026 14:32

I’m just not sure what else I can do. Surely she should be happy to have nieces and nephews.

What like a " consolation" prize? That's a bit like rubbing it in her face isn't it "well I'm sorry you can't have the child you want but be happy I'm giving you a niece/ nephew"

Just no. Why would she be happy about that. I'm not fussed either way on my siblings kids and I didn't even have issues conceiving

speakball · 25/08/2026 07:42

Alarmed by the number of posters who think it’s routine to be spiteful? I’ve faced my share of loses as we all have, but saying things I know are unkind as a way of coping? Nope. I’m an adult. And most adults aren’t spiteful either.

Joliefolie · 24/08/2026 21:22

The sister told the OP she was being incredibly insensitive by having another baby when I know how desperately she wants one. Something she would never dare say to the other sister.
Just wow.

TunnocksOrDeath · 24/08/2026 21:12

Joliefolie · 23/08/2026 23:35

Being the designated punch bag for someone who vents all their discontent that they feel towards everyone else but only dare take out on you is not the sort of kindness we should be encouraging in women. Terrible advice.

Offer to listen to your sibling express what they’re feeling = being a designated punchbag.
Just wow.

Thirteenblackcats · 24/08/2026 19:19

You come across very insensitive

your poor sister, can understand if she doesn’t want to see you at this time

ByWittyLimePoet · 24/08/2026 19:17

She's being a selfish brat!

Holidaymodeon · 24/08/2026 19:11

MrsShawnHatosy · 21/08/2026 14:32

I don’t think people who conceive easily, and as many as they want, can ever really understand how unfair it feels when you can’t. Cut her some slack OP.

Yes agreed. I’ve been all sides of the coin and I can see it both ways, you just have to focus on you and your preg and your family and de-focus from what your sister is saying and experiencing.
this is your experience and hers is hers.
allow her her pain but you don’t have to be the one to hold it.
it’s very sad and very bad luck for her indeed

T1Dmama · 24/08/2026 15:51

Fimofriend · 24/08/2026 15:03

I am simply pointing out that just because you are suffering, there is no reason to take it out on other people.

And you do know that some people have really bad PMS or headaches, right? It can really destroy lives. People lose jobs, relationships, friends, and sleep over that.

It isn't a competition about who is worse off. Quite frankly, it seems to me that it is you who scoffs at other people's problems.

Now, let's not derail the thread.

Everyone deals differently with pain.

OP’s sister is going through a type of bereavement… and the steps of bereavement include anger. She needs someone who IS NOT @TheFunnyPoet to gently suggest to her that she needs counselling to help her through her feelings.
Not having children effects some women so deeply… some become that ‘crazy cat / dog woman we all know or of, some women become the doting auntie while others withdraw from children totally… my cousin just decided she hates kids as a way of coping.. has nothing to do with her nieces and nephews at all.. even says she doesn’t like them… my friend on the other hand used to take hers away for a week holiday and was like a second mother to them…
OP’s sister is hurting, needs love and understanding not judgement. Sure she needs her nastiness gently pointing out as being inappropriate and someone 💯 % needs to recommend counselling to her.. but she also needs time to deal with her feeing about this 4th baby… she probably thought that her little sister wouldn’t have anymore as she’s approaching 40… so this has also come as a bit of a shock…
OP is entitled to be happy, but her sister is entitled to feel sad/jealous… and hopefully she will move past these feelings and OP will be tolerant but firm.

i would definitely be telling sis that her comments are completely inappropriate and will only be tolerated for so long!

T1Dmama · 24/08/2026 15:22

Me and my 1st partner tried for years TTC… tests revealed he had about 5% sperm count that was swimming … we did 4 rounds of IVF, in the meantime everyone around me was having babies…. Me and my sister started TTC at the same time, she fell immediately and had her first baby and I wasn’t even pregnant… it was so hard BUT I had hope… after tests I just felt completely sucker punched but again still had hope and at 22 was told IVF would likely work as I was so healthy and young!! IT DIDNT!! Just as the final attempt failed my sister announced her 2nd pregnancy!

To be clear my siblings didn’t know at
this point that we were even trying or about the IVF… so my sister didn’t feel the need to walk on egg shells about her pregnancies… BUT when I eventually told my sister she said it made sense… she said that when she told my mum she was pregnant she could sense that my mum was thrilled but there was something off.. it made sense that her joy was dulled by having to tell me that my sister was was pregnant again after I’d failed for 4 years …
Anyway I did eventually conceive with a different partner, but only ever had one because his sperm wasn’t great either (I seem to pick them!!)…
I can’t say how I would have felt if my siblings had 4 children and I’d had none!….all 3 of my siblings only had 2 each!….
Anyway I always had the hope that I’d conceive either naturally and then with help while my older siblings were having children… so I was always happy for my siblings… if they were on my 4th I think I may have felt really upset though - like it was so unfair…. I wouldn’t be thinking you shouldn’t have 4, but I’d be thinking it was so unfair that I couldn’t even have one…

Your sister hasn’t actually said you shouldn’t have more has she? She’s just pointed out the obvious that this 4th is a real punch to her stomach - and it will be!!
she shouldn’t have even needed to tell you this - it should have been obvious to you that it would be.. and that’s not saying you shouldn’t have more not have had a 4th… but you maybe could have been more sensitive when announcing the pregnancy… you’re allowed to be elated, she’s allowed to be absolutely jealous that it’s you again and not her.
Tell her you feel awful that she hasn’t been able to be a mum, and tell her that you do try to be sensitive to her feelings, and understand if she needs a bit of space, but that you would absolitely love for her to be as involved as she wants to be (or not if she doesn’t)…
I also think that you should absolutely pull her up (gently) when she over steps…. Her comment about you being like rabbits for example….. maybe just a gentle ‘Sarah that’s really not appropriate!”…

As for her not leaving her ex, I think it’s easy
for others to say ‘that was her choice’… but I’m sure she was manipulated by him, and she probably feels even worse now knowing that she was fooled by him and has been tricked out of motherhood…. It’s a truly awful thing to have happened to her - we can all say that she shouldn’t have even have said at 30, right if we aren’t trying right now I’m leaving… but in reality we are often scared to leave, knowing that divorce, house splitting etc can get so messy… then the thought that you might not even meet someone else to have a baby with…. As you get older the available men already have kids and she clearly thought that would mean they wouldn’t want more (she told you that!)… so I think there’s a multitude of things happening here…

She didn’t leave her husband who didn’t want kids yet… because she believed that she wouldn’t find anyone else who would want kids anyway… then you found someone who already had children but STILL went on to have 4 more!.. so she’s full of utter regret for not leaving him.. she feels tricked by him.. he stole her fertile years with his ‘maybes’… eaxh year she stayed she felt less able to leave and find someone else…. He probably told her that everytime she mentioned it!

Maybe you could have a conversation some day with her about how awful he was to do that to her and sorry you feel you feel that that happened to her… no buts or talk about you… just one occasion where you truly listen and take on board how awful this is for her… no ‘but you can be an aunt, or I understand BUT… just listen to her… she will talk and talk and cry and probably eventually say she knows you shouldn’t have to go without for her… just listen to her, hug her and empathise - say you can’t even imagine how that felt…. Don’t pretend to understand.. because no one does.. and she needs you to admit that this is tough for her and that you can not possibly understand but are trying to!
If she decides to go low contact keep your side up, just a weekly text saying you’re there for her and hope she’s ok and your doors always open x if she doesn’t respond still keep up the texts, nothing about you, unless she asks, and as sad as that is for you, text everyone else your pregnancy news, and accept she’s just too fragile, it’s not that she’s not pleased for you, it’s that she’s feeling cheated and wants what you have! Desperately wants it!
She doesn’t want to be an aunt, she wants to be a mummy!

I think you’ve said she’s in a relationship now?… could she have a baby now? My friend had a baby at 43, another later than that… IVF an option? Fostering/adopting? And actually even if single could she have a baby alone? I had a friend who just decided that she wasn’t waiting for a man any longer so did it alone and loves it !

I have a child now - well a teenager - but I still occasionally feel sad that I couldn’t have more… and when my ex left us I do feel that I was cheated by 2 men from the family I wanted… but still so grateful to have 1… if she hadn’t come along I’d be desperately depressed now that I’d wasted my life on 2 men !

Good luck and congrats @TheFunnyPoet

Fimofriend · 24/08/2026 15:03

MrsShawnHatosy · 23/08/2026 10:40

I was happy for my friends who had children while I was struggling and, but it was also a very painful reminder of what I couldn’t achieve. Especially when it was their third or fourth. IVF never worked for me and we had to stop as I was no longer producing any eggs despite being on the highest dose of drugs I could be.

I have seen it said that women who’ve had successful IVF are the least compassionate when it comes to other people’s infertility struggles and your post seems to bear that out. Honestly, comparing years of infertility to PMS, a headache or having a bad day! You really ought to know better.

I am simply pointing out that just because you are suffering, there is no reason to take it out on other people.

And you do know that some people have really bad PMS or headaches, right? It can really destroy lives. People lose jobs, relationships, friends, and sleep over that.

It isn't a competition about who is worse off. Quite frankly, it seems to me that it is you who scoffs at other people's problems.

Now, let's not derail the thread.

nomas · 24/08/2026 14:34

TheFunnyPoet · 21/08/2026 14:32

I’m just not sure what else I can do. Surely she should be happy to have nieces and nephews.

Just leave her in peace. Her actions are saying she needs space away from you, so give her space. Don't foist your kids on her.