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To leave early after my dad told off my son?

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Sparklesbigtoe · 21/08/2026 08:01

Will try & keep this brief cos I didn’t get many replies on my longer one and I’d really like to know if I’m overreacting or not. 5 yo DS & I are staying with my dad for a few days. Yesterday while we’re eating dinner he raised his voice (not quite shouted) at him & told him he has no manners and he doesn’t want to eat dinner with him again and that he needs to go straight to bed. DS wouldn’t sit still, kept getting up and burping at the table. All bad behaviour I know and I was dealing with it but my dad butts in. He goes on at him so much DS starts crying. He then suggests I’m not bringing him up properly and not teaching him any manners, says DS is rude for ignoring him earlier that day when he asked him a question (I wasn’t there but he wouldn’t have ignored him, he may have not understood or frozen out of shyness, which happens sometimes). I took DS to bed and went to bed with him and haven’t seen my dad since. I feel extremely unwelcome here now and just want to go home. Problem is we’re in rural Wales and the only way we can leave is to have my dad drive us to the train station. We’re due to stay till Sunday. What would you do? If I end up staying, what do I say to him today? He’ll never apologise to me or ds or admit he was in the wrong.

OP posts:
EveryoneUsingOutro · 21/08/2026 09:10

OneStepForwardsTenStepsBack · 21/08/2026 08:25

dad has always been very controlling and emotionally abusive towards me as a child so all this is very triggering. We have an ok relationship now but it’s fragile

Why on earth are you willingly exposing your child to this?

This! This is the crux of the matter.

Your child’s behaviour sounds like a one off. Maybe he’s picking up on tension in the house and acting out as he is feeling weirded out.

But you know why. This is your Dad’s character. Are you still in FOG to him?

I would be seeking counselling to discuss why you are letting your precious child be exposed to the same abuse that you suffered as a child. Is this relationship actually beneficial at all to your DS and to you?

Balloonhearts · 21/08/2026 09:10

Your dad was right to tell him off. He kept doing it so you clearly weren't dealing with it effectively. 'About to start behaving?' Seriously? 😂

Your son needs some proper discipline and if you aren't doing it, someone else will.

HoraceCope · 21/08/2026 09:10

When did you arrive?

AgnesMcDoo · 21/08/2026 09:09

I agree with your dad.

godmum56 · 21/08/2026 09:09

Thestealer · 21/08/2026 08:16

Your dad sounds like a bully. Go home if you can.

This.

nomas · 21/08/2026 09:09

YANBU to feel uncomfortable. It sounds like your dad doesn’t know how to interact with kids.

MN always blames the mum if it’s a choice between the mum and grandparent.

Any chance you could book a taxi to take you to the station?

ChaToilLeam · 21/08/2026 09:08

I was going to say that yes, this is bad behaviour that needs correcting, but then read your update that you were dealing with it when your father decided to put his oar in. 5 year olds are liable to behave badly sometimes, that's just par for the course. YANBU, but it sounds like you are also reacting to the parenting you received and have problems standing up to your father. Perhaps not easy to leave from your location but is there a local taxi you can call if your father won't drive you? Have you asked him?

Supergirl1958 · 21/08/2026 09:07

Sparklesbigtoe · 21/08/2026 08:57

Only on MN would you ask for advice about something and 80% of the replies are people criticising you and not remote answering the question! It’s so pointless and pretty cruel and has made me feel 10 times worse than I already did. Just scroll on if you can’t offer any advice. I don’t need to be told that my child burping at the table is gross! I obviously already know that. I’m a normal person. It’s completely out of character for him. I was explaining that he’d lose his pudding & film and gave him one more chance and if he did it again I said he was going straight to bed. My post was more about what my dad said after to me - that I was a rubbish mum and I’m bringing him up with no manners. It was so hurtful to hear that from my own parent when I’m trying my absolute best as a single parent with little support (he’d never offer to help as he thinks people are “taking advantage” of their parents if they ever ask them to babysit their kids). It’s been really triggering for me cos of my past so I’m really teary and afraid I’ll cry in front of him if I stay. I’d really like to leave but I’d have to tell him and ask him to drive us to the station. Would that be more awkward than just staying till a sun??

OP I don’t think it’s helped you drip feeding to be honest!

Firstly most people won’t go and seek out the many responses after your Original post. So my opinion going on your OP is that your son misbehaved (I’ve got a 6 year old son and know it can be tricky these days BUT he will sit at the dinner table at school and I should hope that he wouldn’t behave like this after a year in reception!).

However, after reading the information in your following posts, I can understand why you feel your dad’s responses were triggering. I understand he lives in the Welsh countryside, but you have enough WiFi to come on MN so I would use that to find a taxi/bus service to take you to the station.

Be honest with your dad, two more days of exposing your son could be traumatising for him.

HoraceCope · 21/08/2026 09:06

Op you know what you want to do and you are seeking validation . Follow your gut if you don't like the advice offered, it is offered in good faith

Thestealer · 21/08/2026 09:06

WecanbeheroeslikeBowie · 21/08/2026 09:02

Noone is perfect least of all mebut I have raised 6 decent, polite well mannered kids. It's nothing special and no more than a good parent should be aiming for😄

Yeah right.

Thestealer · 21/08/2026 09:05

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/08/2026 09:00

He was testing boundaries and found it. Unless you think that the boundary should move to accommodate the obnoxious little sod, then grandad was correct to tell him off.

Why are you calling a 5 year old names? Makes you feel good does it?

Thirteenblackcats · 21/08/2026 09:04

Sparklesbigtoe · 21/08/2026 08:57

Only on MN would you ask for advice about something and 80% of the replies are people criticising you and not remote answering the question! It’s so pointless and pretty cruel and has made me feel 10 times worse than I already did. Just scroll on if you can’t offer any advice. I don’t need to be told that my child burping at the table is gross! I obviously already know that. I’m a normal person. It’s completely out of character for him. I was explaining that he’d lose his pudding & film and gave him one more chance and if he did it again I said he was going straight to bed. My post was more about what my dad said after to me - that I was a rubbish mum and I’m bringing him up with no manners. It was so hurtful to hear that from my own parent when I’m trying my absolute best as a single parent with little support (he’d never offer to help as he thinks people are “taking advantage” of their parents if they ever ask them to babysit their kids). It’s been really triggering for me cos of my past so I’m really teary and afraid I’ll cry in front of him if I stay. I’d really like to leave but I’d have to tell him and ask him to drive us to the station. Would that be more awkward than just staying till a sun??

You’re not being unreasonable at all. Your Dad behaved badly, so did your DS but only one of those should possess the maturity and self regulation to correct this themselves.

there are some absolute see you next Tuesdays on here, I hate them.

Springtimeinsunshine · 21/08/2026 09:03

School wouldn't have tolerated his behaviour and would have told him off and @Sparklesbigtoe is failing her child if she keeps going to pieces every time someone tells her child off for misbehaving.

Threatening to not let him watch a film wasn't appropriate for a 5 Yr old constantly burping or getting up and down either, he wouldn't care enough, and I have to agree with others he is not introverted he was showing off and deliberately being naughty.

WecanbeheroeslikeBowie · 21/08/2026 09:02

Thestealer · 21/08/2026 08:50

The child is 5. Yes he was being a pain but that's 5 year olds for you.

Unless you have perfect mumsnet 5 year olds.

Noone is perfect least of all mebut I have raised 6 decent, polite well mannered kids. It's nothing special and no more than a good parent should be aiming for😄

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 21/08/2026 09:01

I would speak to your Dad. Apologise for ds's behaviour at the table but tell him you were handling it and don't appreciate him stepping in. Tell him that the parenting is to come from you and he is not to confuse ds by taking over in future. If he apologises too -great. If he doesn't and you still want to leave get an Uber.

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/08/2026 09:00

ThatCosy · 21/08/2026 08:51

I think all these replies are very harsh. I'd ask your dad for a lift to the station later and if not, you'll need to call a taxi. You all need a bit of distance and hopefully it will blow over if you send him a thank you card and then call him in a couple of weeks and keep conversation neutral.

I imagine your son was tired or testing boundaries or something. He's five. Bad behaviour happens. You obviously weren't trying to hypnotise him with an i-pad or something which isn't helpful. You were helping him to learn. Grandads can forget what its like and probably weren't very involved the first time around. Have faith in yourself and your son.

He was testing boundaries and found it. Unless you think that the boundary should move to accommodate the obnoxious little sod, then grandad was correct to tell him off.

ShrubLover · 21/08/2026 09:00

OP it might be worth posting on the Stately Homes thread on relationships forum. It's for adults who had abusive parents. You'll find more understanding people over there.

Sparklesbigtoe · 21/08/2026 08:57

Only on MN would you ask for advice about something and 80% of the replies are people criticising you and not remote answering the question! It’s so pointless and pretty cruel and has made me feel 10 times worse than I already did. Just scroll on if you can’t offer any advice. I don’t need to be told that my child burping at the table is gross! I obviously already know that. I’m a normal person. It’s completely out of character for him. I was explaining that he’d lose his pudding & film and gave him one more chance and if he did it again I said he was going straight to bed. My post was more about what my dad said after to me - that I was a rubbish mum and I’m bringing him up with no manners. It was so hurtful to hear that from my own parent when I’m trying my absolute best as a single parent with little support (he’d never offer to help as he thinks people are “taking advantage” of their parents if they ever ask them to babysit their kids). It’s been really triggering for me cos of my past so I’m really teary and afraid I’ll cry in front of him if I stay. I’d really like to leave but I’d have to tell him and ask him to drive us to the station. Would that be more awkward than just staying till a sun??

OP posts:
Lightuptheroom · 21/08/2026 08:56

Ok, so you know the behaviour needed correcting, but it wasn't an ideal reaction from your dad. That's grandparents for you. I'm older, my ds is 24, I was also a single mum from when he was 2. My dad wasn't abusive etc but was very very selfish and set in his ways. My mum was a 'smack first ask questions later' person. So, we didn't see them that much and when we did I just got on with life and viewed it as a set amount of time. It improved as ds got older and it then wasn't about them bending their outlook to interact with him. The basic truth for a lot of grandparent age, especially men, they didn't sit on the floor drawing pictures and playing with cars, they told their children to sit down and behave and the children did it.
For you, your visit is nearly over, can you manage for 2 more days or is it time to call it a day and maybe in future make the stay a shorter one or suggest that your dad visits you?

1985goingbackagain · 21/08/2026 08:56

Happytaytos · 21/08/2026 08:15

The shyness is normal but his table behaviour is rude and clearly you aren't effectively dealing with it.

Too shy to talk but confident enough to burp and misbehave at the table? Not sure the two positions reconcile.

(totally get he could have just not heard or been engrossed in something else though).

Thirteenblackcats · 21/08/2026 08:55

i feel your Dad was harsh. Yes it’s not ideal but he’s 5 and not in his familiar surroundings.

ignore the holier than thou comments from Mrs perfects on here.

I’d leave, my parents would have never treated me or my children like that

Bogstandardname · 21/08/2026 08:55

Your father was right to speak up. Your son's table manners were appalling.

FaceIt · 21/08/2026 08:55

YANBU

I’m not saying it’s right, but I can see why your DF snapped.

There are kind ways to speak to children and teach them manners.

Does your DS usually behave like that? Can you usually find a way to handle him and calm him down?

I would speak to your dad without your DS there and if I got the feeling he was going to carry on and cause a bad atmosphere, I would ask him for a lift to the station.

I would also speak to your DS about burping/good manners.

Could you go out just with your DS today to give them both some space?

Jessiejessiecat · 21/08/2026 08:55

Kids get tired and find it hard to sit at the table at the best of times, especially with grumpy people. They do silly things to try and lighten the mood and engage with people. He’s 5. You’re doing fine. Your dad should speak to you privately if he has an issue.

Likeiloveyou · 21/08/2026 08:53

Actually I do think you need to reflect on why you’re exposing yourself and DS to a man you know is abusive (given your additional posts, which many posters won’t have read). However, that’s something to do when you’re home.

Today I would book a taxi to the station and go home.