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To think Meghan Markle has every right to worry about her security?

671 replies

Hardware252525252525 · 20/08/2026 22:07

I’m not a monarchist and haven’t really taken much notice of the whole saga, but obviously do know the main points.

However, the comments across Mumsnet and multiple newspapers and websites are absolutely insane and unhinged. People who don’t know them insisting she’s leaving Harry and the kids, is controlling him, that they’re skint and tge
kids will have to go to state school if Charles doesn’t pay, people saying they hope a random stranger sees her and gives her ‘some home truths’.

It is absolutely crackers and I worry about the sanity of the people who seem to really believe they know them.

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Lemonapplepear · 21/08/2026 10:53

No one I know in real life has any strong feelings about MM - the unhinged stuff you see online doesn't reflect reality thank goodness. Agree it is disturbing behaviour and reflects all kinds of social pathologies involving race, gender, class etc.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 21/08/2026 10:51

simpsonthecat · 21/08/2026 10:49

Do you know... it is only on MN that they are criticised for keeping their childrens faces out the media. Only here.
Elsewhere they are praised for that decision.

I presume you think the same for , for instance, Eugenie... loads of pics of backs of heads of their children.

I don’t want to see the kids faces. I don’t want to see the kids at all.

simpsonthecat · 21/08/2026 10:50

WildGarlicSoup · 21/08/2026 10:46

I agree with you, OP.

Some weirdly, worryingly obsessed folk hating on M&H. There was one poster who was logging onto 'As Ever' every day, multiple times, to check and report back on the stock levels; 'well, she's only sold 1 candle today.'

I have always taken a big interest in the RF, I love listening to the gossip podcast etc. but cannot understand or abide the hatred.

Trolls and bots.

There was someone who bought a pot of her jam to count the strawberries!

EasternStandard · 21/08/2026 10:49

user1492757084 · 21/08/2026 03:06

Yawn.

Leave them to their chosen private life.

This is up to them too, they can have more of a private life without selling content. Plus covering their own security.

simpsonthecat · 21/08/2026 10:49

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 21/08/2026 10:46

If they want security they are welcome to pay for it, like other celebrities.

They could also stop teasing the faceless pics of their kids on various holiday locations, if they really wanted to keep their childhood private.

Do you know... it is only on MN that they are criticised for keeping their childrens faces out the media. Only here.
Elsewhere they are praised for that decision.

I presume you think the same for , for instance, Eugenie... loads of pics of backs of heads of their children.

Backtoschooloncemore · 21/08/2026 10:47

simpsonthecat · 21/08/2026 10:44

I think ridiculous. You cannot tell me that every time a member of the RF is protected, there has always been 4 weeks notice given. There will be impromptu visits no doubt.

And I agree with a PP, if it's totally independent why so many Palace courtiers on the committee.

If they permanently lived outside the uk then yes they would have to give notice.

WildGarlicSoup · 21/08/2026 10:46

I agree with you, OP.

Some weirdly, worryingly obsessed folk hating on M&H. There was one poster who was logging onto 'As Ever' every day, multiple times, to check and report back on the stock levels; 'well, she's only sold 1 candle today.'

I have always taken a big interest in the RF, I love listening to the gossip podcast etc. but cannot understand or abide the hatred.

Trolls and bots.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 21/08/2026 10:46

If they want security they are welcome to pay for it, like other celebrities.

They could also stop teasing the faceless pics of their kids on various holiday locations, if they really wanted to keep their childhood private.

Ukisgaslit · 21/08/2026 10:44

@OrangeAxolotyl

Its not complicated . I’m saying that why have reps there at all ? They could give the diary info and leave . They don’t . They are known to be representing William and Charles .
A word in an ear

simpsonthecat · 21/08/2026 10:44

metellaestinatrio · 21/08/2026 10:34

The four weeks’ notice was in place to ensure compliance with employment law in case shift changes, cancelled leave etc. for the personnel providing the security are necessary to ensure the appropriate level of protection can be given. Not ridiculous at all.

I think ridiculous. You cannot tell me that every time a member of the RF is protected, there has always been 4 weeks notice given. There will be impromptu visits no doubt.

And I agree with a PP, if it's totally independent why so many Palace courtiers on the committee.

metellaestinatrio · 21/08/2026 10:43

OrangeAxolotyl · 21/08/2026 10:41

So you think MI5, MI6, counter terror intelligence experts and the Met would just go along with someone who is there to inform on diary matters?

Especially if they felt that doing so would result in the King’s son not having sufficient protection and (God forbid) something bad happening to him on their watch? It makes no sense.

OrangeAxolotyl · 21/08/2026 10:41

Ukisgaslit · 21/08/2026 10:40

When there is a sub committee and NO VOTE what does it matter how many reps are in the subcommittee ( which acts outside of parliament btw) ?
One is all it would take to pass on the ‘wish’

So you think MI5, MI6, counter terror intelligence experts and the Met would just go along with someone who is there to inform on diary matters?

Theunamedcat · 21/08/2026 10:40

Stop being hysterical about it you sound like her she managed to get in and out of the country unnoticed and unharmed despite the constant leaks to the press and hysteria they tried to whip up about it all

She isn't diana

NovaF · 21/08/2026 10:40

The comments are bonkers. There are a frightening amount of people with nothing better to do then spew hate about someone they do not know

Ukisgaslit · 21/08/2026 10:40

metellaestinatrio · 21/08/2026 10:38

I assume someone has to provide details of the King’s diary and working knowledge of the various engagements etc. to help inform security decisions. And he is one person on a committee of several. You and other posters seem determined to find a conspiracy where there is none. The process has been scrutinised via judicial review and found to be reasonable and appropriate.

When there is a sub committee and NO VOTE what does it matter how many reps are in the subcommittee ( which acts outside of parliament btw) ?
One is all it would take to pass on the ‘wish’

OrangeAxolotyl · 21/08/2026 10:40

aCatCalledFawkes · 21/08/2026 10:38

Exactly, doesn't sound very independent to me. At work we would probably call this "marking your own homework" ie making sure you can get what want but make it look like you have gone through the right channels.

No, it is independent, no matter what Harry thinks.
The UK Government would not want harm to come to anyone, and that includes Harry, no matter what he may have claimed.

Roselilly36 · 21/08/2026 10:39

They should have security even as non working members of royal family.

metellaestinatrio · 21/08/2026 10:39

aCatCalledFawkes · 21/08/2026 10:22

Of which RAVEC can say he doesn't need it, also the King's personal aid sits on RAVEC and is known for not wanting them to reconcile and has since announced his retirement after the July meeting. Now they are due back full time and with Clive Alderton leaving there security will have to be reconsidered which possibly does make Harry feel safer about returning.

RAVEC has a pretty good track record of keeping people safe so far…

PropertyD · 21/08/2026 10:38

If they want to live a quite life then carry on. But the interviews, the books, the hate from H and MM are not helping them live this life. They seem in a bubble where they can do whatever they like and if someone queries what they are saying - well they are racists.

Quite honestly its the lies, the victim mentality and the endless grifiting that is causing many people to call them out on this. Add in the green agenda and then using private jets, briefing out things in advance and then blaming others is unforgivable.

aCatCalledFawkes · 21/08/2026 10:38

Ukisgaslit · 21/08/2026 10:35

@aCatCalledFawkes

Exactly.

Reps of William and Charles on the committee.
There is a ‘sub committee’ relating to anything Windsor related . No vote . Decisions are made by ‘consensus’ . Hence plausible deniability when the Windsors make it known what should be done . A word in an ear .

Exactly, doesn't sound very independent to me. At work we would probably call this "marking your own homework" ie making sure you can get what want but make it look like you have gone through the right channels.

metellaestinatrio · 21/08/2026 10:38

aCatCalledFawkes · 21/08/2026 10:33

Why does it have the Kings personal aid on it if it's a completely independent body?

I assume someone has to provide details of the King’s diary and working knowledge of the various engagements etc. to help inform security decisions. And he is one person on a committee of several. You and other posters seem determined to find a conspiracy where there is none. The process has been scrutinised via judicial review and found to be reasonable and appropriate.

OrangeAxolotyl · 21/08/2026 10:37

metellaestinatrio · 21/08/2026 10:30

Yes, I assume that when he moves here the current bespoke arrangement, including the notice requirements, will change to reflect the change in circumstances. That doesn’t negate the fact that your initial characterisation of the current security arrangements was inaccurate and misleading.

RAVEC is an independent body with plenty of experience assessing the appropriate level of security for royals and others. This was made clear when it came out during one of Harry’s court cases that the late Queen had asked RAVEC for a certain level of security for Harry and was told, politely, that it was nothing to do with her and she could not influence the decision.

Thank you. Not quite a cross post, but largely a point I was trying to make.
Harry misunderstands how security works, and his personal attitude has meant some misinformation about the whole process.

cityliving99 · 21/08/2026 10:37

simpsonthecat · 21/08/2026 10:07

Most of them commercially exploit their royaldom. Apart from Charles and his heir.

In all fairness Zara’s children started off at the local state primary, with no security.

Ukisgaslit · 21/08/2026 10:35

@aCatCalledFawkes

Exactly.

Reps of William and Charles on the committee.
There is a ‘sub committee’ relating to anything Windsor related . No vote . Decisions are made by ‘consensus’ . Hence plausible deniability when the Windsors make it known what should be done . A word in an ear .

metellaestinatrio · 21/08/2026 10:34

simpsonthecat · 21/08/2026 10:29

I agree. And I think 4 weeks notice was ridiculous.

Charles has every right to connect with his son again and if that's the reason Clive Alderton left, good riddance to him.

The four weeks’ notice was in place to ensure compliance with employment law in case shift changes, cancelled leave etc. for the personnel providing the security are necessary to ensure the appropriate level of protection can be given. Not ridiculous at all.