To increasingly feel like men are more of a hindrance than anything else

Bit you've talked about your own DH? I dont get it. If you're all walking on eggshells with his moods that's you it's putting up with it.

Mums of boys do have some responsibility on how they are bringing them up

The problem with your post is that you seem to think I, and other women, are responsible for making men better.

It is not my job to turn abusers into decent men. I should not have to 'hold them to account' or 'make men stand up'.

They are the ones who need to change their behaviour and treat women with respect.

I am not on this earth to fix broken, shitty men.

Probably, but if a woman wants to deal with it by no longer having romantic or sexual contact with men, what's the issue?

I wish men who hate women would do the same.

I find these wonderful men who share life equally and carry the mental load 50/50 with their partners only exist on MN.

Never met one in real life. And highly doubt I ever will.

Writing off an entire sex merely gives the shit men an excuse, like they can’t help it or take any accountability because it is entirely inevitable that they will be shit. This is lazy. You should hold shit men to more account, not less. Men can choose to be better. I don’t refute most of what you say, patriarchy and toxic masculinity is an absolute blight on our society. But it is not genetic. It is not inevitable. Make men stand up, have higher expectations, don’t discount them all.

Sometimes I play a game where I ignore every news story involving a man just to see what the news would be like if there were only women in the world. It's truly eye opening.

The usual 'pick me women' and 'not my man' brigade...

I reality it is hard to ignore facts:

• men commit the majority of violent crimes, including rape and sexual assaults, domestic violence and child abuse
• for centuries women and girls were second class citizens who were the property of their father then husband, denied the vote, right to own property and so on and men had no issue whatsoever with these inequalities. It is still the same in many countries to this day.

So the 'women are as bad as men' trope does not stand up to scrutiny.

Is it really easier to write off the entire male sex than face up to the fact that you made a poor choice of partner…

You are not wrong OP. Most of the evil in this world comes from men. It’s not man hating to say this. It’s stating the obvious!

I am afraid I have had mostly bad experience with men: violent/abusive/misogynist father, unwanted touching by a teenage boy at school, sexual assault by a so-called male 'friend', general poor behaviour with any man I dated (selfishness, porn obsessions, inability to see women as human beings rather than maids and sex objects...)

Unfortunately men are responsible for the majority of crimes and have built a world where most leaders seem to be more concerned by their greed and ego than people's welfare.

I think patriarchy and male violence are a blight on societies and women and children pay a high price for that.

There are of course some decent individual men but as a gender they come with some serious issues.

I am much happier now that I am older, single and have no interest in having a man in my life or worrying about whether they find me attractive or not. Bliss.

Yes these threads are so cringe worthy. I really hope no men I know ever see the misandry of this site.

I don’t disagree with you. But you have rather ignored what I said.

Oh don't get me wrong. My dc dad was a horrible alcoholic. But I was young and stupid.
I learned my lesson

And on bikes

How on earth is that a derail? The actual OP is all about comparing men to women, by pretty much saying that the former are shit whilst the latter are amazing, based on nothing more than their sex.

Even if OP hadn't made it clear, it's a very obvious paradigm that, when there are only two distinct varieties of something in the world, specifically pinpointing one of those varieties to opine how useless it is is clearly implying that the other is much better by default.

The OP's title is about men being a hindrance and started talking about her DH.

If most threads on MN are to believed all MILs (females) are evil and a hindrance

Maggie Thatcher destroyed the community I lived in and let a Government which caused damage which lasts until this day. Prominent female leaders in Pakistan, Bangladesh and India did absolutely no better than the men and their Governments were marked by significant corruption. I would love to be able to argue that women in government were more moral and achieved better outcomes than men, but with the possible exception of Jacinda Adern and Jenny Shipley in NZ I really do not think the argument holds.

me too.

And on this site.

My DH is generally great although as we get older I sometimes see the beginnings of a grumpy old man starting to evolve.

I'm late 40's and if something happened to DH I wouldn't want to go through it all again with someone else.

This!!

Perhaps some parents of boys have some explaining to do regarding their son's attitude and behaviour also..