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AIBU to think I may have been forgotten / misjudged a friendship when it took one of my (supposed) closest friends over a week to let me know she was ok and baby had arrived safely?

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Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 09:56

Trying to keep this brief. Will probably fail, sorry. Scene-setting... Old school friend, close but not in each other's pockets (neither of us are really like that), live a long way from each other, very busy lives with family / social lives / work (both in very full-on jobs), meet up a couple of times a year, go through phases with messaging - can be a couple of months between then have a spell of conversation in which we catch up on life then things go quiet again, mainly we talk about the very important and private stuff that we've both acknowledged we wouldn't really discuss with other people. We've both spoken about how things work, in that regard, and said it suits us - the gaps are not a reflection of the other being unimportant, neither of us are needy and we both just understand each other's lives.

Fast forward... Friend went through IVF, bless her, and her DH works away, all over the world (she does, too). Some appointments she went to by herself and I was the person she called while she was waiting to be seen at those appointments. Pregnancy was relatively ok for her. Second child. She had a CS with first, wanted VBAC with second. We had conversations about it ahead of the birth - both on the same page with wanting a VBAC second time around, both also very pragmatic people (I had an emergency CS with my first but had wanted a water birth - have been advised against VBAC in future). She went overdue but was almost certainly going into hospital for an induction and if baby not been born naturally by X date then it was going to be a CS - some concerns started to crop up about her health and baby's health around her due date.

We messaged on or the day before she was likely going in (because I'd got in touch to find out how an appointment a few days earlier went) but I didn't know if / when she'd actually gone into hospital. I didn't then hear anything at all. Childbirth is a busy time! A week passed (and we were a good few days beyond the final date baby could have been born) so I dropped her a message just to see how she was getting on. No response. A few days later (yesterday) dropped her another message just to say I was thinking of her. Got an immediate response to say that she'd been home a few days, had a busy week, baby girl was born a week earlier, and she was doing ok after a bit of a rough ride.

I totally get that having a baby is utterly crazy and the early days are like being in the trenches. I've been there - very rough surgery, very unsettled baby, having absolutely zero clue how to navigate the new order. I also tried to strike a balance between being there / supportive / interested / consistent but not oppressive or demanding (that's obviously subjective but I think, based on our relationship, I gauged it right). I was concerned about my friend because of the things that started to indicate there may be a problem prior to the birth.

I just have this feeling that I was forgotten in the list of people to inform about her being safe and baby girl being born. Whilst she tells me what an important friend I am, I struggle to get past "actions speak louder than words".

I'm genuinely not an overbearing person. It's something I check with people because I hate others who are overbearing! I am the person who can always be relied on though (by friends or even acquaintances, it transpires) - I think it's the consistency 🤷🏼‍♀️ On the one hand, I am worried that I've expected too much of my friend. On the other hand, I am concerned I have misjudged the friendship and I'm perhaps not as important to her as I had thought.

AIBU to think I may have been forgotten / misjudged a friendship when it took one of my (supposed) closest friends over a week to let me know she was ok and baby had arrived safely?

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BoredZelda · 20/08/2026 12:16

Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 11:51

Honestly, that was pretty much what I needed to hear, from someone outside of the situation!

And, ultimately, if I'm not actually one of her closest friends, I'm absolutely A-OK with that - I was trying to gauge things from people's responses. Before now, I had taken cues from her as to what I mean to her. I don't mind where we sit, in relation to each other, I just want to understand where that is so I can have appropriate expectations / involvement, that's all.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Why do you need to put a label on the friendship? Why does it need to be “close friend” or “best friend” and not just “friend”?

I have a similar relationship with an old school friend. I’d consider her what you are labelling a “close friend”. I have no idea if she feels the same. I’m happy with the way our friendship is, regardless of what her view on it is or if she leaves me out of an instant announcement.

Dependsoncontext · 20/08/2026 12:16

I think it does mean something, particularly if she let the main group of school friends know the next day - are you absolutely sure that that is the case?

Whilst you may get on really well and have deep school days roots, you're just not on her day to day go to list. There is nothing wrong with that type of friendship If you're both Okay with that? I wouldn't overthink it at this stage, she is full on with a second baby and might be struggling with any number of post partum issues!

Edit: Just read your post about being ready to jump in the car and drive six hours. I wouldn't over think this but I would maybe maintain a looser friendship because it doesn't sound as if she sees the friendship as you see it. I find the best thing to do is to just accept people and adapt accordingly, rather than hoping for more from them.

Bethany83 · 20/08/2026 12:15

I hear you O.P I really do.

However, I think it may be what the poster said about you weren't in the family chat or the other friend chat and they may have been the only ones messaged within that week. I do think she should have messaged you too but likely exhausted and in the trenches etc so I would try and let it go if you can but I do understand your feelings!

Different situation but I had a similar experience from a friend I thought I was v close with and I pulled back from them. This was three years ago. Still friends but definitely not as close. I felt very hurt that they opened up to a mutual friend and not me also when I had always been closer to this person. So I thought fine, and stepped back. Still friends but my eyes were opened. I feel she lost a very good friend in me as I am very loyal and a good person but I thought if she doesn't see me as a close friend then I need to stop seeing her as one. I'm glad I did.

LoyalAquaAnt · 20/08/2026 12:14

YANBU to question things but I think it's likely that you weren't on one of her group chats and missed the announcement.

Possibly you've become part of each other's furniture and you are less current in her life. You may be the person she speaks to about personal things, but she has friends who are more present in her life.

Give her space but accept that she may have closer friends now, so adjust the energy you put into the relationship (she'll be busy now anyhow). Don't become her therapist and the person she goes to in times of trouble if you will feel used.

BoredZelda · 20/08/2026 12:12

GingerdeadMan · 20/08/2026 12:11

I think you're getting a rough ride here OP.

You sound concerned about your friend and given how much she was leaning on you for support during the pregnancy and therefore how involved you were it would have been nice to know she was OK. I can see how sharing this experience would make you feel closer to someone.

You do sound like you're massively over thinking things, especially given her 'rough ride' message.

You are worried that you are somehow forgettable. It doesn't sound that way.

Your friendship will naturally evolve given this big change in her life and it will take time for things to settle.Stop wondering whether you've done something wrong - it really doesn't sound like it.

Take a meal round and drop it off and leave, no hanging about hoping for baby cuddles. Doing something nice for someone else will lift your spirits.

They don’t live close to each other. Taking a meal round should be hugely inappropriate.

BoredZelda · 20/08/2026 12:11

Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 10:18

Should add, I think the group of school friends got "the message" after a day or two, not over a week later - it wasn't as though she'd gone into a bunker (which I'd understand).

Of course they did. You’d think this was vital context for the opening post. Funny oit came after everyone said you were wrong.

GingerdeadMan · 20/08/2026 12:11

I think you're getting a rough ride here OP.

You sound concerned about your friend and given how much she was leaning on you for support during the pregnancy and therefore how involved you were it would have been nice to know she was OK. I can see how sharing this experience would make you feel closer to someone.

You do sound like you're massively over thinking things, especially given her 'rough ride' message.

You are worried that you are somehow forgettable. It doesn't sound that way.

Your friendship will naturally evolve given this big change in her life and it will take time for things to settle.Stop wondering whether you've done something wrong - it really doesn't sound like it.

Take a meal round and drop it off and leave, no hanging about hoping for baby cuddles. Doing something nice for someone else will lift your spirits.

HeyMona · 20/08/2026 12:06

Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 10:27

IVF is a really tough process to go through for anyone. It's so demanding on a woman's body. And she had to go through a lot of it alone with DH working away and family not being nearby.

IVF is really tough for a lot of people but not for everyone, I have a friend with 3 kids from one round, no issues, planned when she wanted them, doesn't feel IVF was hard. She knew she would need IVF and therefore had no waiting period of TTC.
I have other friends (some via infertility support groups) ranging from IVF worked first time and they found it fine, or worked first time but still found it stressful, and other friends who had lots of treatment, possibly pregnancy losses and sadly still no baby.

I had lots of treatment and eventually it worked. I met many people along the way who did not find IVF hard. I personally did find it hard the longer it went on but if it had worked early on would have a different view.

You're obviously close friends and she kept you updated throughout pregnancy, then first week with a newborn can be hectic. Just see how things go without reading too much into it at this point.

Username7258 · 20/08/2026 12:00

I'm with you on this. Someone I knew told me all the bad bits about her pregnancy and expected support but then contact dried up once they didn't need me. We're not friends anymore, I don't need that kind of behaviour in my life.

Conversationalcheddar · 20/08/2026 11:58

I know that after birth, I had a really hard time talking to anyone who was going to ask me how I was feeling. Because I had no words to describe what had just happened. It wasn’t about them as people, it was about still processing what had happened and not being able to face those questions yet.

Poonu · 20/08/2026 11:57

I think you hit the on the head @ThinkingloadingIt's honestly not that I'm needy. It's the disparity that has made me question where I really sit.

Peonies12 · 20/08/2026 11:57

My god yoy have way too much time on your hands if this is what you’re using your head space for. She had a baby. Give her a break. A

babyproblems · 20/08/2026 11:56

I’m quite surprised at some
of these responses tbh - I would have expected her or if she wasn’t great, DH to message close friends / family to at least say all is well generally & baby arrived safely.
I also think most people become a bit wierd when they have their first baby; for obvious reasons, especially if she struggled to have this baby.
I think that is polite and common courtesy tbh to send a message to family and friends.

Lasymostly · 20/08/2026 11:54

If you are autistic, as you suggest you may be, that makes sense of why you analysing this so deeply.

Truth is, it can often be difficult to know where you stand, especially in female friendships which seem much more complicated than male ones. In this case I see it as her still wanting to be your friend, I don't see anything to suggest otherwise. However, with two children you may find that her contact with you changes just due to time or her prioritising friends with children. That is quite common. Only time will tell on that.

At the moment though, I would assume she does want to still be your friend.

Pancakeflipper · 20/08/2026 11:53

Your reference to past episodes of the friendship ars interesting - I get why you are 'overthinking' on this.

For now keep on being you.
She''s likely to be all over the place. Now is not the time to make decisions on the friendship.

Focus on your happy friendships.

This will either resolve itself or fade out.

Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 11:51

Onelifeonly · 20/08/2026 10:52

I understand why you are feeling a bit sensitive over this, I might well feel the same but I also know I can go weeks when I'm very busy or dealing with a difficult situation, without thinking much about my friends and even temporarily 'forget' about one. Then when I have plenty of time on my hands, I start wondering why they're not bothering to contact me. I expect you have been in a similar situation here - waiting for news while she is up to her eyes in all the complications.

Maybe stop assuming you are one of her closest friends though, and settle for being one of her friends. Friendships do vary a lot over time and sometimes fade away. I used to see myself as someone who would never let something fade but I realise now I have done so - sometimes just down to decreasing contact which makes it feel like we no longer have a connection - often due to life taking different directions.

Honestly, that was pretty much what I needed to hear, from someone outside of the situation!

And, ultimately, if I'm not actually one of her closest friends, I'm absolutely A-OK with that - I was trying to gauge things from people's responses. Before now, I had taken cues from her as to what I mean to her. I don't mind where we sit, in relation to each other, I just want to understand where that is so I can have appropriate expectations / involvement, that's all.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

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Justtobenosey · 20/08/2026 11:50

I don’t know if this will help but I have really close friends that I have to put much more effort into their messages because I genuinely care and am much more interested in their life and what I ask, these friends are often bottom of the priority in replying too because it takes more time and effort that I have to make sure I have rather than replying “hahaha” to a group chat.

I would hate for my close friends to think I didn’t care as it’s actually the opposite!

DeftGoldHedgehog · 20/08/2026 11:49

Do you always overthink everything so much?

You post is exhausting. Letting you know when and how she did is absolutely fine. Take a chill pill and a big step back.

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 20/08/2026 11:48

You do sound quite ‘full-on’ …but also a loyal friend.

Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 11:47

Pancakeflipper · 20/08/2026 10:51

Kindly, I think YABU. She said she had a rough ride. That could have been many things and probably not resolved/processed.

If you have usually a happy supportive friendship, let go of of your hurt, because I dont think it is about you and her. I think its probably about about her experience, the birth, the baby, physical and mental health,immediate family etc.

Ypu do sound like a decent friend who cares and wants to support (but she's not in that place for your support yet)

Thank you for this.

She has explained about her rough ride and it wasn't the best experience, poor love. I've just said however much she does / doesn't want to say, whenever she does / doesn't want to talk, I'm here.

Honestly, it's been a rocky friendship at times and I've been pretty zen about however it was going (I don't cling onto things that are dead in the water). I gave it another chance but I'm content to accept I may be a bit more sensitive to "does this mean something" than I otherwise would be.

I'm very pragmatic and literal, so I like to know where I stand. I don't expect anything (as in, I don't expect to be at the top, middle or bottom of the pecking order) I just need to know where I'm at so I can have appropriate expectations / input, if that makes sense?

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Tablesandchairs23 · 20/08/2026 11:43

Your not close if you only see each other twice a year and go for months without speaking.

onesinglepringle · 20/08/2026 11:38

OP, kindly, this is a really daft thing to get upset about.

You have been friends for such a long time, shared so much.

I can't believe you would question all of that because she took some time to tell you about the birth of a child - which you yourself have acknowledged is an utterly crazy time.

Just stop it. You are being silly!

Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 11:37

kombuchabucha · 20/08/2026 10:43

Wow. The fact you have checked with others if you're overbearing makes me think you possibly are I'm afraid! As does this massive overthink.

I felt awful when one of my friends (Friend A) forwarded a message from my friend from a different friendship group (Friend B) about 3 weeks after I'd had my baby as I had completely forgotten to reply to Friend B's messages from just before and just after I'd had the baby. They probably came in at a time I couldn't reply immediately and therefore, I forgot. And you get so many messages around the time and just after your baby is due so they easily get lost.

It's easy to send a quick message with a photo on a group chat (which sounds like it happened with your friend's school pals) than it is a 1-2-1 message I think as well, as there is more detail and personalisation required for a 1-2-1 message. Especially if she had messages from you that she hadn't responded to yet.

Ok, so I don't outright ask "am I overbearing"... If someone has something big going on or coming up, I'll essentially ask them how much / what sort of contact they want... Some people like to get lots of messages when they're having a rough time, others don't. I explain that I'd hate for someone to think I don't care about them, because I've not been in touch much, but that would be me being respectful of their space. I'm more on the side of stepping back than being overbearing because it's something I hate to be on the receiving end of, myself, but if someone wanted me checking in more often, I'd do it (diarise important dates, check in on those dates, drop them messages here and there, ask if they want a call or to meet up - just, whatever they want).

Here, I didn't think anything of it until I learned that the school group had been told within a couple of days and I'd heard nothing. I wouldn't expect anything more than the generic photo that gets sent around to everyone, not a conversation thereafter. It just felt odd to be missed out when it seems that the generic "announcement" had gone out.

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Chunkychips23 · 20/08/2026 11:35

You’re making this about you and your wants. Yes, she may have forgotten, but it likely wasn’t personal. I forgot to tell my best friend I’d given birth for my VBAC baby. It wasn’t personal. I’d had a rough birth and then it was straight into 2 under 18 months and family dramas. Was she offended it took a week? Nope. Because although she doesn’t have children, she understood that nothing was personal.

It was an oversight not a slight. Move on if your friendship is important to you.

Thinkingloading · 20/08/2026 11:30

Seeline · 20/08/2026 10:41

I called my first birth 'a bit of a rough ride' to friends etc.

Because I couldn't really process what had happened.
Because I didn't really want to be reliving it in those early days
Because I'd lost so much blood I passed out every time I tried to stand
Because I couldn't get to see my baby in NICU unless someone took me in a wheel chair.
Because when we got home a week later, I'd had no sleep, had so many stitches I couldn't walk and it hurt to sit down.

But hey, I'm sure I sent a message to my friend as soon as I was back on the ward....

But that's the thing - she did. She messaged the school group (who, apparently, she's not as close to) within a couple of days. Until I learned that, I didn't think anything of it other than to assume that she must be having a really hard time and be worried about her.

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