To think that Harry and Megan's return to the UK has everything to do with money running out?

They all need the media.

Based purely on her friendship with Jilly Cooper, I think Camilla sounds like lots of fun, but there is a limit to how interested people are in her reading campaigns and various charitable interests because she can only speak in platitudes.

It's the soap opera that keeps them in the public eye, and that is toxic for everyone.

William is the future King. Every family, well a lot of them have rogues, villains, ne'er do wells and so on, but many manage to stick together. William would be very much admired if at some point the thaw sets in and he makes up with H. One big happy family again.

The public would love it, and the gossip would ease. Go on William, break the ice, and your father will be a happy man too. What parent wouldn't be happy to see his family re united.

Crown Estates business.

I think Diana changed the narrative

the royal family with their extremely good team around them who had preserved their image by feeding the press stories constantly were suddenly not the only stories being told it was no longer one sided

many people still want to believe the one side as this narrative has been there all of our life time

their is interesting clip from the royal family tv show that was shown once and never again a fly on the wall type documentary of the queen and prince Philip looking at the papers and reports of a trip they had done the previous day it’s surprising how interested they are in the reports

I heard an interesting point of view yesterday. When it comes to money it’s the press and the podcasters etc who really make money from the H&M saga.
Camilla Tominey even invited them into the Telegraph podcast. It’s all about the clicks.
If anyone can remember when Charles first made things official with Camilla, she was absolutely hated. I think her only fan was Pam Shipman from Gavin and Stacey.
She turned things around by being low key
I really liked Diana but I think her book and Panorama interview changed how things worked. It really upped the game in terms of turning the family into a soap opera.
Her and Charles openly admitting to cheating on each other was a new low.
One thing I’ve realised is that we don’t know any of these people. We see what we are presented with.
In my parents’ day there was a blind following of them.
I don’t know a single young person who is remotely interested in them.

And this affects you and me how? If only that foresight had been applied to other members of the RF.

This way of thinking is a whole new level of crazy.

WTF. This is not the norm or he would still be Prince Andrew. Just because some people or cultures were doing it doesn't mean it was ok.

There is no way Andrew has anyone up manship on Harry no matter how much hard work Harry is.

Ive read some shit in my time on mumsnet but genuinely that was batshit. Honestly the way people excuse what Andrew did whilst vilifying Meghan and Harry is crazy but that poster brings a whole new level of WTF

I mean he was right in a way. She saved him.

Because the rest of the royal family are so hard working ?

Lily Collins stars in the series Emily in Paris if that rings a bell? I know she was also in the biopic about the screenwriter of Citizen Kane (Mank) but not sure how popular that was in UK.
Brie Larson has been in some Marvel films, not sure what else.

They are such parasites. Why don't they actually do something.

It's not just short memories but also generational change. Gen Z and some Millenials were either born after Diana's death, or young children for the Charles/Diana/Camilla saga.

Most of the people I speak to my age, and we were brought up on the RF, especially Diana, just are no longer interested.
They never connected with Camilla.
Further disconnect when the late Queen died.
Fed up with the H&M circus.
But it’s the Andrew cover-up which sent most packing. As a teenager he was a dashing war hero to us.
It was once a family very removed from us. My parents respected them as they were pretty solid during WW2. Apart from a certain King who stepped down.
But now celebrity is more important then royalty and the whole thing is a mess.
The King was old when he got the job and then became ill.
And this H&M saga has been rumbling on for years.
Then you have William and Catherine leading the pack, and doing it pretty well and the likes of Anne and Edward doing the donkey work.
It is disjointed and needs a firm hand.

That scrapped back hair is unflattering. She is stunning though and looked great in the photos in the rain. Was that when they left to try and live a quiet life of service?

How does the family member know?

What??

Rape and exploitation of trafficked women is OK because that's the norm in Andrew's culture?

And why are you bringing up Muslims?

It could be money, though I do know via a family connection that the king is far more unwell than has been made public so far.

To be fair, the house was a mansion not a regular house, and they said they'd initially thought it was out of their budget. To some extent, it probably was

But does that mean "She has disgraced our nation with her behaviour and must be exiled!" or "Oh, the one with annoying Netflix programme? No I'm not particularly interested".

Yup, there are:
https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-uk-popularity-new-low-poll-12263279

There are polls?!?

It is true that a majority of the British public holds an unfavourable view of Meghan, with negative ratings of 61% to 65% in a recent YouGovtracking polls.

Yes, it’s all Meghan’s fault.

And the Royal Family is just perfect and not toxic at all.