Why can't I just find some pants?!?!

Mine are boy shorts too, love them. Your FIL might enjoy a trip to the lingerie shop 😀

Step One bamboo are the best

I agree, gussets have got a lot narrower. And I find they are often too far back (but I don't notice this until after I've worn them with a pad, go to the loo to find the blood is all at the front 🙄).

I have to wear a pad every day, because I bleed every day. I'm not sure vaginas need to 'breathe' though, that's lungs.

Reusable pads are a nice idea, but I've never found any that are really suitable. Carrying the dirty ones around with me when I'm at work, or a festival, or camping, or out shopping, just isn't practical. They also swizzle round in my knickers so I end up with the poppers against my labia, which is uncomfortable.

I've tried eco pads, they literally dissolved with the sweat in recent heat.

I've also had the sticky problem, which seems to be the fabric on some knickers, but also sweat seems to have an impact. I've found pads stuck to my thigh, labia, nothing (plop on the floor when you pull your keks down).

And period pants are too much to wear literally every day.

Sloggi have been the best I have found for a sensible gusset.

That was me (I'm in NZ). I've tried all different pants over the years and always go back to Bonds. The ones I mostly wear are made of cotton, modal and elastane and are very comfortable. They don't ride up, they don't fall down, the gusset is big enough - perfect really.

There’s a whole Instagram about this, two women have set up a company producing knickers. I watched one of their videos and their USP is decent sized gussets
apparently the width/size of a gusset is never discussed in knicker design

Try Tena Lights sensitive as liners. I wear Stripe and Stare and they are lovely and comfy and I read online to use Tena and they are fine

I had the same issue as you regarding wondering where the liner had gone…

I live in M and S period pants. So comfy. Lovely padded gusset.

People looking for wide gusset but slightly Bridget Jones granny pants style that are SUPER comfy, I recommend Innersy high waisted pants from Amazon. If you are over size 20 they also have a plus size type but their sizes are generous. And they wash really well. The only annoying thing is I personally find the gusset isn’t quite long enough at the front for me but not sure if that’s just me or more the pants! They’re mostly cotton with a bit of spandex for stretch. I don’t wear anything else now, have replaced all my pants with these!

OP I wonder if you prefer the slightly silkier type of pants whether the Sloggi zero feel kind might work for you?

I’ve never noticed anything when I put my leggings on (not that I’ve worn leggings in forever since it’s been so hot) but then I only wear leggings with dresses or long jumpers as I feel naked otherwise.

So, why does M&S assume some women including plus size women like narrow gussets? Surely the width of gussets should be standard?

I’ve found my holy grail pants now and they are very cliche M&S pants. Absolute bargain price too.

The high right shorts with a lace top.
Nice thick gusset, covers my mum tum and my ample backside, but pretty enough not to feel like granny pants on the washing line. They also tumble dry well - not sure of the material but they do feel cotton like.

I'm going to try making my own pants (I'm sure I'll get round to it one day!).

not been mentioned yet but I recommend Yummie - you can get them on amazon as well. Not cheap but they last years. The Ultralight have a little bit of hold but nothing that makes it uncomfortable. I live in a tropical country and these hold out well through sweat, work under linen or light clothes. I have over time swapped out every other pant to just these.
https://www.yummie.com/products/ultralight-shapewear-brief-sparrow?variant=45231445508295

I will try those knicks @Saurus72 - thank you! I discovered Sloggi zero feel bras a while back and they are amazing.

Someone on here recommended these a while ago and I’m so grateful because they’re perfect everyday knickers (tho they are cotton). They don’t ride up, elastic doesn’t fray, you just put them on and forget about them.

Have you tried Intimissimi? I find sizing pretty skimpy so I size up. These are good. Plain, stay put and wash well.

I used to buy cotton knickers from Victoria’s Secret which were pretty good. But I bought again about 6 months ago and quality was rubbish.

Watching as I have continual issues.

For horse riding i need larger no seam pants but they can stretch too much and ride up (no pun intended!). A high leg bamboo works but pads wont stick!

Yoga/pilates- thongs leave my bum sweaty, larger pants show through leggings, and I loath a full knicker as it clings to my lower belly/section bulge.

Thongs generally have too narrow a gusset and are either too stretchy or not stretchy enough.

Shorts sit too low on my hips so belly gets divided and they never seem to cover my arse.

Still searching and tempted to abandon all knickers!

TKMaxx is now my source of knickers, because of the massive range of styles and colours and shapes available and all at bargain prices.

But another vote for boody full coverage knickers for those kinds of days.

They aren't actually a short though 🤔 I imagine VPL under leggings etc. I buy shorts to avoid VPL

😂😂 that’s funny, bet he wasn’t so keen!

I am so in love with my ModiBodi ones. They’re amazing 😍

Get some with pads built in. Like period knickers but for bladder leaks.

community clothing. real underwear made in South Wales. exceptionally fairly priced when you consider what you are getting.