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AIBU to prefer an all girls state secondary for my daughters?

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PlumCat23 · 18/08/2026 17:51

Aibu to want my daughters to go to an all girls state secondary with a very good reputation? It's where they would like to go too but dh has reservations. They are academic, sporty, outgoing girls so I feel they would thrive. Please tell me the pros & cons!

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mcmuffin22 · 19/08/2026 15:49

Flowertrees · 19/08/2026 14:15

And presumably a large number of these are grammar schools. I don’t know any single sex schools in my county that aren’t private and we don’t have grammar schools here, therefore no single sex state schools at all

We have 15 in Hertfordshire (8 state funded).

mcmuffin22 · 19/08/2026 15:47

Fifthtimelucky · 18/08/2026 18:17

My daughters went to a girls school and loved it. I often read that girls schools are cliquey and that there is lots of bitchiness. They experienced neither.

There was a nearby boys school so they socialised on the train and the schools organised some joint
activities.

A lot obviously depends on the individual schools
concerned but, everything else being equal, I would always choose a girls school.

Edited to add that my daughters were at a mixed primary.

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Same experience here. Dd is 16 and is about to start sixth form. She has really loved school and is much more confident in her abilities now after leaving a mixed primary (where she was starting to feel talked over by boys in her last few years). Her school is very inclusive and friendly. She does a few sorts outside school with mixed groups and has a boyfriend- she hasn't suffered from being at a girls school. She has also been allowed to be herself- she doesn't care so much about make up, short skirts etc for school

RandomUsernameHere · 19/08/2026 14:39

DD is at an all girls school (going into year 8) and she loves it. I’m also extremely happy with the school.

Coffeewinecake · 19/08/2026 14:26

I said two before but actually there are four (maybe more) single sex girls state non-grammar schools near us (<30min). Two are Harris.
Also know of at least one in a relatively nearby county but not commutable to us (not Harris).

Flowertrees · 19/08/2026 14:15

BirdLandedonmyHead · 19/08/2026 13:56

There are only just over 200 girls state schools in the country, of which 70 are in London.

There are 8 in the whole of Yorkshire, mostly in West Yorkshire.

And presumably a large number of these are grammar schools. I don’t know any single sex schools in my county that aren’t private and we don’t have grammar schools here, therefore no single sex state schools at all

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:58

BirdLandedonmyHead · 19/08/2026 13:56

There are only just over 200 girls state schools in the country, of which 70 are in London.

There are 8 in the whole of Yorkshire, mostly in West Yorkshire.

It is such a pity there aren't more spread out throughout the country so the choice is there for parents who can't afford single sex private...

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PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:57

You specifically said there were none in the North East & then reiterated that saying there was none in the North at all saying it was the North /South divide... you should have just said none in my catchment rather than taring a whole region with the same brush!
As I said above I think it's awful there is no single sex state in your catchment as all parents & pupils should be entitled to choose.

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BirdLandedonmyHead · 19/08/2026 13:56

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:43

There are two all girl state schools in the north east in Sunderland & in Newcastle! I don't know why @monkeysox is claiming otherwise. Google is your friend here @monkeysox !

There are only just over 200 girls state schools in the country, of which 70 are in London.

There are 8 in the whole of Yorkshire, mostly in West Yorkshire.

monkeysox · 19/08/2026 13:56

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:40

But it's still in the north ,you claimed there were no single sex girls state schools in the north when in fact there's two. There is the one in Newcastle & also a state all girls in Sunderland.

But it's still a divide if there are none thay are accessible. And as you have seen there are fewer in general in the north

monkeysox · 19/08/2026 13:52

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:43

There are two all girl state schools in the north east in Sunderland & in Newcastle! I don't know why @monkeysox is claiming otherwise. Google is your friend here @monkeysox !

But that's not my part of the north east. They are an hour and a half or longer on public transport which makes them inaccessible for teesside children.

Savvysix1984 · 19/08/2026 13:52

I went to a girls grammar, as did my sisters and my nieces currently go to the same one. We all loved/ love it. Had fabulous experience. Behaviour was excellent, teachers were supportive and I never saw or experienced bullying. Didn’t find it cliquey at all and my nieces don’t either. We all got excellent gcse/ A level results.
my dd got a score to attend this school but we live further away so it wasn’t really an option but dd wanted to go to a mixed sex grammar anyway. She loves it and finds the boys funny!

Xanhi · 19/08/2026 13:47

I went to a mixed sex school and always thought mixed schools were better. However, after teaching in all girls and mixed sex state schools, I chose to send my daughter to single sex. Boys dominate in mixed schools. They dominate in the classroom, outside of the classroom and when it comes to curriculum choices. 96% of the prison population is male and 4% is female. If you work in schools this statistic doesn't come as much of a surprise.

The dynamic in the classroom is very different. Girls tend to be quieter when boys are around and boys tend to take up a lot of air time. Girls can be used in seating plans and groups to manage boys behaviour. Quite a lot of girls change their behaviour and clothing to please the boys. Some of the boys are very misogynistic and girls have to deal with sexual harassment from a young age. At the most academic end of the school the impact can also be seen when it comes to A level choices. For some reason girls are more likely to take stem subjects in single sex schools than they are in mixed schools. It isn't surprising that girls generally do better academically in single sex.

For boys, I think it is better to be in mixed sex.

The schools I taught in were London state schools. Apart from one, they were all fairly diverse. However, the dominant ethnicity and social/economic background of the children does make a big impact on the culture of the school. This is probably more significant than whether it is single sex/mixed sex. You don't want your child to feel isolated.

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:43

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/08/2026 13:27

That’s terrible. Very unfair.

There are two all girl state schools in the north east in Sunderland & in Newcastle! I don't know why @monkeysox is claiming otherwise. Google is your friend here @monkeysox !

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PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:40

monkeysox · 19/08/2026 13:27

If its newcastle its an hour and a half away from me. Nearest grammar is Ripon 1 hour drive away.

But it's still in the north ,you claimed there were no single sex girls state schools in the north when in fact there's two. There is the one in Newcastle & also a state all girls in Sunderland.

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YoungSoak · 19/08/2026 13:31

I would say it depends on the child and how much interaction they have with boys already. You say your DD has boys in her extracurricular activities so that helps. I went to a single sex secondary school. I had a large group of mixed sex friends outside of school so it suited me but some of the girls in my school didn’t and were obsessed with the boys from the school across the road

JudgeJ · 19/08/2026 13:30

PlumCat23 · 18/08/2026 17:57

I just want to know other people's experiences of all girls schools. My dds are currently in a mixed primary so we don't know any different

I've taught in all girls, all boys and mixed schools in my career and I found all boys the easiest and all girls the hardest, so toxic! It obviously depends on the schools I suppose, they were all state schools though.

Deadringer · 19/08/2026 13:28

My dds all went to a girls school, my ds to a mixed one. My ds did ok, just about, the girls got a great education and made friends for life, it was definitely the best option for them.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/08/2026 13:27

monkeysox · 19/08/2026 13:13

Example of North South divide. No grammars either

That’s terrible. Very unfair.

monkeysox · 19/08/2026 13:27

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:15

There are two state girls schools in your area up in the North East! I already tagged you in the post about them. Why are you pretending otherwise?!

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If its newcastle its an hour and a half away from me. Nearest grammar is Ripon 1 hour drive away.

HushTheNoise · 19/08/2026 13:18

There are no single sex state schools in Scotland anymore. I think girls probably benefit from them, but it's no longer a choice here.

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:15

monkeysox · 19/08/2026 13:13

Example of North South divide. No grammars either

There are two state girls schools in your area up in the North East! I already tagged you in the post about them. Why are you pretending otherwise?!

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dottiedodah · 19/08/2026 13:13

I think if your girls want to go there its up to them really.Your DH isnt going!

PlumCat23 · 19/08/2026 13:13

monkeysox · 19/08/2026 12:31

Thats about 1 and a half hours away from me. Couldn't afford private and dont agree with it. No state single sex here.

That's really bad that the choice is taken away from parents & children who really want a single sex state education for their child & can't afford private. I don't agree with it. I'm so glad we are not in your area & my daughters can have single sex education. Choice is so, so important in education.

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monkeysox · 19/08/2026 13:13

BillieWiper · 19/08/2026 12:35

That's weird they don't have some. In my area and surrounding ones there's plenty. You should be able to choose.

Example of North South divide. No grammars either

Muffsies · 19/08/2026 13:02

Holdinguphalfthesky · 19/08/2026 08:56

It isn’t really stereotyping, though, is it? It’s true. Studies have shown (it’s taught in the A level sociology syllabus) that there are massive differences in teacher attention towards boys and girls and in verbal contributions from boys and girls, in mixed sex classrooms (the boys dominate both). There’s also evidence that boys dominate the recreational spaces, pushing girls to the edges or inside. And the government has a paper (linked upthread) about the problem of sexual predation and harassment in schools.

Sure it isn’t all boys, but it’s enough to be massively problematic.

Let’s face it, girls’ schools are actually a place where girls can exist, for six hours a day, outside of the patriarchal society. Why wouldn’t we want to give them that respite and that opportunity to operate with the freedom from it, if we possibly can?

I completely agree. I went to a girls school and it was such an oasis away from boys jostling to dominate. And I say this as a mother to 3 boys, and a sister to two. I have no issue with boys, and I don't think we need to stereotype them at all. In fact the stereotype is part of the problem.

It's society which seems to think/expect boys should be loud, domineering and assertive, something that my elder brother and middle son also struggled with. The same studies which say that girls perform better in single sex schools also show that many boys do less well in single sex schools - for exactly the same reasons!

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